Should Gilbert be cautioned/sacked/traded

[krisholio14]

Good lord there are some serious histrionics on this board at the moment.

 

[Dawson]

throwing a butt out of a window probably carries a $100 fine, cause a bush fire with that same butt where people get hurt and you'll go to jail, do you think the butt gilbert threw out hurt anyone in any way?

lets go through this again.

he took a nude pic of 2 high profile people without consent (well one at least), was told to delete the pic and he didnt, deliberatly downloaded the pic to a private folder on his hard drive which he kept for over 12 mnths (admitted it), started having sex with a 16 yr old school girl, allowed that same girl access to those pics (lets be honest here, he showed her the pics, only a muppet would think otherwise), gets that same 16 yr old pregnent (maybe) the 16 yr old school girl then sends the pics to herself, later publishes them on FB causing massive damage to 2 team mates reputations, one being the club captain and face of the team, not to mention the embarrassment dels going to have to go through for at least a very long time, i wont mention the potential loss of endorsments again.

i actually respect your views saints, probably one of the better posters on here IMO, but come on, heads or " a head" has to roll over this, this bloke isnt a first year rookie, he's 24 yrs old!!.


and before finger has a chance to reply, this is nothing like the didak incident/incidends, didak was partying and befriended someone he shouldnt have, granted, but tell me you'd call the police when you know full well this maniac knows exactly who you are? i know i wouldve kept my mouth shut, 99% sure everyone on BF wouldve too.

after thought, i was at a 40th recently and 2 of my brother in laws after many many bourbs started to get free with their packages, shoving them in pkts on the pool table when someone was going for that hole and such, i had the camera, i felt like photographer, took heaps of pics, very funny at the time, first thing i rememered when awoke from my grog induced coma was the pics i took, walked outside and had a laugh with the boys about them, looked at them once and deleted them as i went, couldnt believe i took the pics TBH, as i said, it felt like a funny idea at the time, didnt feel like such a funny idea in the morning though, and remember, my brother in laws arnt celebs, no harm wouldve come of it even if i did keep the pics for some twisted reason, even if a 16 yr old school girl did get hold of them.

my question is, why did gilbert deliberatly keep the pics?, IMO theres only 3 answers.

1. he's gay

2. to impress people (young impressionable girls for instance)

3. to blackmail someone.

if anyones got a 4th id love to hear it.

How did you get to be so dumb?

Look at our Club and the issues we have had with players who have lied to their team mates, their captain and president, got drunk with known crims, DUI, lost sponsorships and even now some are accused of sexual misconduct.

Now be quiet before these even dumber St Kilda supporters work out who you support

 

[andypie]

I have found a couple of things laughable in this whole saga.
Firstly, it is a bit rich for Sam Gilbert to be threatening to sue people. If anything, he is the one who should be sued for his breach of trust.
Secondly, it is a bit rich of the AFL players association to be calling for more protection of players privacy. It is after all one of their own members that perpetrated the biggest breach of privacy in taking the photo, lying about it being deleted, then keeping it on his computer.

 

[pazza]

I have found a couple of things laughable in this whole saga.
Firstly, it is a bit rich for Sam Gilbert to be threatening to sue people. If anything, he is the one who should be sued for his breach of trust.
Secondly, it is a bit rich of the AFL players association to be calling for more protection of players privacy. It is after all one of their own members that perpetrated the biggest breach of privacy in taking the photo, lying about it being deleted, then keeping it on his computer.

Too much common sense in this post.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Too much common sense in this post.

Common sense isn't common and you dont have it and cant pick it.

 

[Plugger35]

my question is, why did gilbert deliberatly keep the pics?, IMO theres only 3 answers.

1. he's gay

2. to impress people (young impressionable girls for instance)

3. to blackmail someone.

if anyones got a 4th id love to hear it.

4. They were part of a large batch of photos taken on an end of season trip and he simply forgot they were there and/or forgot to delete them.

Probably the most likely scenario but that doesn't make for a very juicy story though does it?

 

[mediumsizered]

4. They were part of a large batch of photos taken on an end of season trip and he simply forgot they were there and/or forgot to delete them.

Is it normal behaviour to take naked photos of your teammates on an end of season trip?

 

[bisazc887]

I have found a couple of things laughable in this whole saga.
Firstly, it is a bit rich for Sam Gilbert to be threatening to sue people. If anything, he is the one who should be sued for his breach of trust.
Secondly, it is a bit rich of the AFL players association to be calling for more protection of players privacy. It is after all one of their own members that perpetrated the biggest breach of privacy in taking the photo, lying about it being deleted, then keeping it on his computer.

The offence is when they were published/uploaded in a public domain, Gilbert didnt do that

 

[ksardog]

something i dont understand, the court has ordered the girl that all photos are to be destroyed that were obtained from sam gilberts computer. now apparently there are other pics of players from other clubs in compromising positions. why would sam gilbert have pics of these other players, it was weird enough hes taking pics of his naked team mates but this would be bordering on the bizarre.

 

[Plugger35]

Is it normal behaviour to take naked photos of your teammates on an end of season trip?

Fairly common I would have thought, naked hijinks are part and parcel of most footy trips its just that most don't get made public. I've seen much worse than the photos of the Saints players.

 

[the distributer]

4. They were part of a large batch of photos taken on an end of season trip and he simply forgot they were there and/or forgot to delete them.

Probably the most likely scenario but that doesn't make for a very juicy story though does it?

Do you honestly believe that?, he admitted downloading them to a "private" folder, do you have "private" folders do you?, he wanted to keep the pics for a reason, thats why he didnt delete them when asked, and as i said in my previous drunkun rant, he showed her those pics IMO.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Fairly common I would have thought, naked hijinks are part and parcel of most footy trips its just that most don't get made public. I've seen much worse than the photos of the Saints players.

My Bucks night photo's are worse.
My friend has them.
He's not gay.
He's not a total idiot.
He won't give them back.
He will use them to embarass me one day, but hopefully in semi-private company.

I'm glad they arent digital. I'm glad that I'm not a famous person and that someone who wants to embarass my circle of friends doesn't have access to them.

Maybe I'm unique but I wouldn't think so.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Do you honestly believe that?, he admitted downloading them to a "private" folder, do you have "private" folders do you?, he wanted to keep the pics for a reason, thats why he didnt delete them when asked, and as i said in my previous drunkun rant, he showed her those pics IMO.

He's been advised what to say by Lawyers.
I'm sure there is a legal defenition of a "Private folder"

Your drunken opinion of the facts is probably not worth a pinch of excrement.

 

[sherb]

My Bucks night photo's are worse.
My friend has them.
He's not gay.
He's not a total idiot.
He won't give them back.
He will use them to embarass me one day, but hopefully in semi-private company.

I'm glad they arent digital. I'm glad that I'm not a famous person and that someone who wants to embarass my circle of friends doesn't have access to them.

Maybe I'm unique but I wouldn't think so.

Your average scanner and its associated software can easily fix that.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Your average scanner and its associated software can easily fix that.

True but it takes a little bit more than just "SEND"

 

[the distributer]

He's been advised what to say by Lawyers.
I'm sure there is a legal defenition of a "Private folder"

Your drunken opinion of the facts is probably not worth a pinch of excrement.

Do you find it strange how del santo hasnt held or didnt hold a presser at least?, could it be that the del pic was taken on a completly different occassion?, just saying because if thats true then thats twice gilbert's forgotton to delete nude pics of team mates, makes me wonder thats for sure.

 

[cruisinwithdids]

Gilbert is a useful scapegoat to protect Riewolt and the AFL. We don't even know what part he played, we just swallow the garbage the AFL and media want us to swallow. Naked photos of AFL players are in the hands of a minor. Why? How? Lets not ask, just ridicule and destroy the life of the minor to protect the image of rich sporting men. AFL, that is not socially responsible of your organisation.

I actually blame all of the adults involved who should know better.

 

[cradle of filth]

Definitely not. Gilbert caused a lot of trouble for his club but it wasn't intentional.

He doesn't deserve to be held in the same bracket as Brendan Fevola, Ben Cousins, Jason Akermanis etc.

Yes, he stuffed up. But it would be incredibly harsh for the saints to let him go after one incident, especially when you consider how many chances quality players seem to get in regards to off-field mishaps.

 

[MacMum]

Definitely not. Gilbert caused a lot of trouble for his club but it wasn't intentional.

He doesn't deserve to be held in the same bracket as Brendan Fevola, Ben Cousins, Jason Akermanis etc.

Yes, he stuffed up. But it would be incredibly harsh for the saints to let him go after one incident, especially when you consider how many chances quality players seem to get in regards to off-field mishaps.

Aker has never done anything remotely disreputable like Fevola, Cousins or Gilbert and a whole lot of others..

His only "fault" has been for giving his opinion, and speaking out about things that go on at clubs...

Hardly in the same mould as the above mentioned..

 

[Plugger35]

from what i can gather beams knew her before gilbert, and armitage met her through gilbert, as i said on the other thread, how do you know beams slept with her?, you've repeatadly stated the girls a liar, do you only believe what she says when it suits you?, i heard beams was friends with her of some kind, thats all, do i think he did her?, yes, but as i said, we have no proof of that.

remember, beams was only 19 at the time.

Armitage is also only around 20/21, the age of them doesn't really matter though or the order they slept with her. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of you throwing muck at Gilbert and Armitage when one of your players has probably done the same thing.

 

[hawkeyehogan]

Unless you are Freddy Mercury why would you want to do this? I have been around in plenty of team sport gatherings over the years and never had idiots tyring to take photos of situations that may ........... He is more than a moron.

I agree the first thing when you have a lot of photos you look at it and delete the crap ones or dodgy one.Guys don't take photos of other Guys it just don't happen.This without someone getting punched up for not deleting it unless they into them or like them to have a photo for their collection.

 

[Bollox]

Ahh no, they wouldnt trade him unless da llama does his nana over it, i mean REALLY does his nana, which he wont.
But if they do there'll be a queue a mile long for Gilbert. That type (of player i mean lol) is in huge demand right now.

 

[Bollox]

Just stay away from the captain and train hard Let him get over seeing pics of his wang on the net, and try not to laugh much at training when your teammates are making jokes

I was away and missed most of this juicy saga...sounds like it was a corker.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Gilbert is a useful scapegoat to protect Riewolt and the AFL. We don't even know what part he played, we just swallow the garbage the AFL and media want us to swallow. Naked photos of AFL players are in the hands of a minor. Why? How? Lets not ask, just ridicule and destroy the life of the minor to protect the image of rich sporting men. AFL, that is not socially responsible of your organisation.

I actually blame all of the adults involved who should know better.

Agreed, and I'd also like to know why adults having sex with minors are still playing football. Forget cautioned/sacked/traded, they should be imprisoned. There are laws in this country governing this behaviour, they obviously don't apply to footballers.

 

[Football Pope]

Unless you are Freddy Mercury why would you want to do this? I have been around in plenty of team sport gatherings over the years and never had idiots tyring to take photos of situations that may ........... He is more than a moron.

As I said on another thread, there's always the possibility that Gilbert was aware his computer was being hacked by her...and decided to leave a little greeting card for her to find... a family snap shot, by unwilling dad, featuring a 'digitally enhanced' penis and a box of condoms on offer....