List Mgmt. Should The Eagles Request A Priority Assistance Package at The End of This Year?

[WCE_18]

If we were to ask for assistance, you’d think it would resemble norths first assistance package which was a F2 & F3. I don’t think the AFL would attach the “these picks have to be traded” tag to them this time. As it devalued the picks with clubs knowing north had to offload them.
These picks would be handy to potentially trade for Buss or Baker, could be used for any academy or F/S next year which I’m hearing we could have a couple. Could even help us get back into this year’s draft given we are missing a 3rd rounder.
I think the club has always been against asking for priority picks but i think this would be foolish.

 

[MrWoollie]

I think the club has always been against asking for priority picks but i think this would be foolish.

I think you are right.

When so many hurdles have been thrown in the path of the club over it's history and there is the natural career shortening travel problem, why martyr yourself?

When you look at the advantages of Northern Academies, within city (melb) player moves, where the GF is played, Vic Metro mummy's boys tampering with the draft, handout after handout to clubs with better multi-season records than us and so on, we need to take any little bit of assistance we can get. Just to reduce the gap to the favoured teams.

We have to accept that it will never be a level playing field so let's make the disadvantages just a little less.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Already been provided. We can remove Simmo and pay him outside the soft cap

Since when?

Sure we can pay him out and go over our soft cap limit, and then pay a fine/premium. But since when did we negotiate to sack a 1 million a yr coach and not have that included in the soft cap. This would be industry news other clubs would want in on!

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[UseR2006]

 

[Bevoman]

Regardless.

If we're bottom two with three or wins, we should be asking for assistance.

Yes, at the vey least it puts pay to North's annual begging bowl requests.

 

[Tugga27]

Yes, at the vey least it puts pay to North's annual begging bowl requests.

Norf only got 17 000 for today's game.

I think that means the AFL has to write a cheque again.

 

[MrWoollie]

Norf only got 17 000 for today's game.

I think that means the AFL has to write a cheque again.

I think the AFL payments to the beggar clubs work out at over $1mill per game played.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

North got the end of 2nd and 3rd rounders in 2022 after a 3 season total of 9 wins and a draw, which also includes the 17 game 2020 season, a 15.3% win percentage over that period.

We're currently sitting at 8 wins since the start of 2022, which is a 13.3% win percentage. If we win no more games for the year our rolling 3 year average will be 11.7%, if we win 1 more it'll be 13.2%, if we win 2 games it'll be 14.7% and if we win 3 games it'll be 16.2%

At this stage odds are we will be more or less in line or below where north were in 2022, so it would be remiss of the club if they don't apply and it would be blatant double standards for the AFL not to oblige.

That's without mentioning that a historically bad spoon team last season had the highest 1st pick of the 2nd round ever at pick 30, which was partially due to the priority picks given to the team that finished above us on the ladder, for the 2nd season running.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that, get it done.

 

[Sammy J]

I’ll take anything at this point. We are so shit.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Yes
Yes.
Yes. A MILLION TIMES YES

 

[DirtySandman]

We suck enough to warrant one, but we don’t deserve one, our current state is our own doing.

What player have we developed since 2018? That’s six seasons, Hough is doing ok.

 

[Barrybran]

Yes
Yes.
Yes. A MILLION TIMES YES

Are you asking for a priority pick or having an orgasm?

 

[Bacchus]

Are you asking for a priority pick or having an orgasm?

Have to demand help. We are hopeless.

 

[KBLT]

 

[squashface]

We suck enough to warrant one, but we don’t deserve one, our current start is our own doing.

What player have we developed since 2018? That’s six seasons, Hough is doing ok.

Ok but how is that any different to North who receive assistance package after assistance package? Is their current state not their own doing?

Actually I would love to hear any example where a basket case club has become a basket case because of reasons other than their own doing?

 

[ziad]

Ask, but we will not get - its the vibe.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

 

[Stinky Breeches]

Whilst it is embarrassing to ask the afl for assistance, the results speak for themselves, we suck.
2021 - 2 wins from our last 9 games
2022 - 2 wins from 22 games
2023 - 3 wins from 23 games
2024 - 4 wins from 23 games(predicted)
When our second pick last year was pick 30, it shows how compromised the draft is.
We were arguably the worst team in history.
If the system was fair, I would say no to asking.
But the system is flawed and full of inequality, so we should ask.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

No reason to let pride get in the way of doing what's best for the club. The AFL makes PP's available, other teams are benefiting off them to the detriment of our own draft & talent acquisition position.

Have we made some poor decisions in hindsight, yes. But we have also been impacted by things outside of our control:

• 2x top draft picks forced to retire early due to concussion
• changes to the rules of the game that made our gameplan redundant, and in turn our players drafted with that gameplan in mind are also made obsolete (hello gaff)
• a horrific run of injuries that ended the careers of several stars before their time and hindered the development of younger players
• covid and cuts to playing lists and soft cap spending that disproportionately (IMO) affected teams in WA and teams with our sort of wealth
• draft position devalued significantly over multiple compromised drafts + vic mama's boys
• the willie fiasco that saw his worth drop to a packet of chips
• a hamstrung WAFL team that also hinders youth development

 

[Obeanie1]

We suck enough to warrant one, but we don’t deserve one, our current state is our own doing.

What player have we developed since 2018? That’s six seasons, Hough is doing ok.

Waterman
Allen
Hough
Long
Chesser
J Williams
B Williams
Maric
Ginbey

 

[DirtySandman]

Waterman
Allen
Hough
Long
Chesser
J Williams
B Williams
Maric
Ginbey

Waterman, Allen played in 18
Hough, looking OK as I mentioned
Long Chesser j Williams Maric Ginbey are wait and see
B Williams no

 

[WCE_Phill]

We suck enough to warrant one, but we don’t deserve one, our current state is our own doing.

What player have we developed since 2018? That’s six seasons, Hough is doing ok.

Are all clubs that get a PP? At fault for their lists?

 

[DirtySandman]

Are all clubs that get a PP? At fault for their lists?

Who else would be?

 

[Tugga27]

Who else would be?

That's the point though isn't it?

Other clubs have gotten help, so should we.
Regardless of how we got there.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Who else would be?

So why should we avoid using the levers available to us for improvement, that other teams access despite also being to blame for their predicament?

Because it's embarrassing?