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Southern FL Div One 2015
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Was it a close game or just poor kicking.
I fear for the longevity of the sfl as the standard of play as skill execution plunges towards irrelevance compared to other competitions, it has to start throwing big cash like the northern footy to get some big time guns to drive the standard up because right now only dingley would be would be competitive in other competitions whilst the likes of bentleigh clayton, stkilda City and chelsea heights would struggle in C grade ammos if not div 1 ammos ... Lift
The latter
perspective
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Tiger The SFL clubs also have to vote new clubs in which they did for all the new clubs over the past 5 or 6 years.It is not just a SFL call it must be ratified by clubs
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You obviously do not attend SFL games particularly First Div.
whowantstoknow
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I think you are right on the money here seems like the competition has grown in teams but the difference between 2nd Div and 1st Div is too close. Back 5 years ago a 2nd Div Team like Mordi would be lucky to come from Div 2 and stay in Div 1. Now Mordi could go all the way to a GF in 1 year. Well done to Mordi!
perspective
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The point that we should remember is that obviously the VAFA particularly the first couple of grades is superior than the SFL's best these days but that doesn't really matter, this comp provides for blokes that are not at that standard. This is a district comp that relies on mostly locals or friends of friends filling the ranks and if the senior club can align with a junior club great or if they can pick up a sponsor that is willing to fund a few blokes great. We have all seen the excitement on blokes faces when they have success together doesn't matter what standard. Also it is these very same footy clubs and whether that be East Brighton or Beena or Hallam that when someone falls on bad times they rally around, so when the VAFA clubs bag the SFL for the standard they are very shallow as footy clubs these days are more than just kicking the footy around. it keeps us interested obviously..
Moody Blue
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Bentleigh never got past D2 in the ten years they were in the Ammo's. South Districts may have gotten to D1, but they are in free fall and will probably end up in D4 in two years. Beaumaris has made it to the Premier Grade, but found out how hard it is to stay there. The Ammo's is an unrelenting competition in that it keeps all clubs on their toes with the 2 up, 2 down system. No club has been immune from relegation at some stage. Look at the intra league matches pre season. The Southern has performed abysmally whereas the Ammo's have beaten the EFL which is a pretty good effort.
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Moody, no one is doubting the standard at the VAFA they have a great number of school clubs that have an instant feeder and many like Beauy and Ormond and the Rovers that have a junior feeder. The SFL is not trying to rival the VAFA for standard rather providing a club for blokes to play that want to play with their mates locally and not have to travel too far to do so. Even the Southern League is spread out a bit the travel is not like you have to travel in the VAFA, it is what it is.. a comp for blokes and friends of friends to play footy and a structure of support like I said before if blokes need support.
The VAFA beat the EFL great well done but because they have better players playing within the comp does not mean that the comp is better. The VAFA cant even get their finals venues out before less than a week out from the actual games and they are playing finals on SFL grounds and also playing a DI GF at Coburg between Kew and Ormond - work that out..So my point is that knock yourself out with the standard you have but the SFL is happy providing an alternative. The growth in terms of teams has nearly tripled in the past 8 years. So whilst this argument of "shuffling deck chairs " and not having a net increase of players does not stack up as the number of teams clearly states otherwise and the number of families involved now with the netball is a bonus.
Moody Blue
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Just for the record I am neither pro or anti Ammo's or SFL. I have played, and been involved with clubs in both competitions and enjoyed both immensely. Just making an observation based on Chislet5 post. He is correct about the skills. If you are happy to maintain the status quo then good luck to you. The competition is about improving itself. If it doesn't the good players will leave to test themselves. Personally the 2 up and 2 down system should be experimented with at least between Div 1 & Div 2. Never be afraid to look at something that works in another competition. From this point of view I believe that the Ammo's policy on serving alcohol is anachronistic as many of their clubs already do it....on the sly.
perspective
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Fair enough Moody accept your learned and experienced view. I think the standard of all footy has improved due to the grounds being in much better nick that once was the case and besides the odd idiot out there most play the game in good spirit. I reckon when Richard Houston funded the St Kilda City teams they would have been very competitive in at least B Division VAFA but it does drop off very quickly. I reckon that SFL floated the idea about 4 or 5 years ago re: 2 up and 2 down and the clubs back then did not support it, you are right it brings lots of interest towards the end of the season and gives hope to more teams. You are also very right with regards the grog, I have been to many many VAFA venues where alcohol is served and consumed after the start of the seniors game, blokes also buy grog from outside the venue and sit in cars and drink... I agree why not just serve it and control the selling of it just like all other leagues do. During the finals at E Park the Wick pub used to be bursting at half time with the crowd from E Park and the blokes would scull 3 or 4 pots as quickly as they could and return to the ground for the start of the last half..
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Ive seen him around the traps over the past couple of years, sometimes at Sandy which game was he at? Easts and Dingley?
perspective
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He brought some characters into the league, Johnny Mac, Cassett, Quinny ( could play) Jacobs etc etc. Sal husseiin and Bruno were terrific players.
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I vaguely remember a furore over Johnny Mac where he declared that he had only been suspended a couple of times yet his wrap sheet was slightly longer and he then fell around the deregistered mark.... But I am sure he got through and played in a Premiership.
Might not be as close as you think. Last years div 2 mordi team was a much better side than anyone getting around in Div 2 this year in my opinion.
whowantstoknow
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Well Mordi's form was good and they played gutsy footy against a strong opponent. Either way if they win this week or not they have done a great job and provided entertainment for the league.
Plz explain
Huge, congrats to Mordi on a great win, Dingley will be very happy not having to play EB and it should be a ripping GF
At least dingley had a chance of beating EB.... also heard strong rumors of a player strike at dingley??
Yeh correct all 22 are striking this weekend after playing the whole season and coming off a losing GF last year they have elected not to play next weeks GF instead handing the flag to Mordi. Sounds reasonable.
and understandably so... all those sunday morning training sessions they do... and for free it seems
superfreak
Premiership Player
Well done to Mordi. Sensational effort from all involved.
