News Swans Talk in the Media: 2021

[Ticky009]

So thanks to the awesome Kennedy Parker you will notice a sticky post at the top of the pages now. This link will take you directly to the Swans YouTube channel which features interviews etc.

 

[The Gong]

Yeah true

But It means a lot to others who supported him , go for them then

Don’t we all want to see arguably our best player in the hall of fame ? This is just so sad

It’s hardly hollow , he’s more than qualified to be there, besides maybe it’s their way of repairing things as well, at some point he should accept the majority love him

I mean it's hollow because AFL House has offered it to him after failing him. Of course he's qualified. He's a walk up starter.

I'm very saddened by it. I agree that he should totally be in the Hall of Fame but I get why he turned it down. I still hope that there's a point where the wounds can be healed but it's not Adam's job to do that.

 

[caesar88]

Yeah I get it, just don’t agree it’s the right answer

Not like he will be booed at the dinner for a start and the morons who dislike him will always be that way

I think more of us love the great man

I know he feels let down by the afl but yeah I’d just like to see him give them a serve

Not going to hold it against him and I accept most think he’s doing the right thing that’s fine

Kind of agree but also don't.

On the one hand you have to hold institutions like the AFL to account. If they want to have their swanky events where they talk up how great the game is, then they have to improve the parts of it that are fundamentally flawed. I don't blame Goodes for recognising how disingenuous it seems.

However my mind goes back to the Williams sisters 14-year boycott of the Indian Wells tournament. Great stance against racism, but when they came back over a decade later, SFA had changed in regards to the sport's treatment of them, and all they did was rob themselves of 14 opportunities to win the title and give a ****-you to the trolls. Feels like the same could happen here. Nothing's really achieved and all Goodsey is doing is robbing himself and his community of the chance to get that due recognition.

Comes down to his own lived experience and what he feels comfortable with though.

 

[The King!]

I mean it's hollow because AFL House has offered it to him after failing him. Of course he's qualified. He's a walk up starter.

I'm very saddened by it. I agree that he should totally be in the Hall of Fame but I get why he turned it down. I still hope that there's a point where the wounds can be healed but it's not Adam's job to do that.

That’s fair admittedly

Just shit that’s all , should be up for debate for legend

Not hoping he will one day accept

 

[The King!]

Kind of agree but also don't.

On the one hand you have to hold institutions like the AFL to account. If they want to have their swanky events where they talk up how great the game is, then they have to improve the parts of it that are fundamentally flawed. I don't blame Goodes for recognising how disingenuous it seems.

However my mind goes back to the Williams sisters 14-year boycott of the Indian Wells tournament. Great stance against racism, but when they came back over a decade later, SFA had changed in regards to the sport's treatment of them, and all they did was rob themselves of 14 opportunities to win the title and give a ****-you to the trolls. Feels like the same could happen here. Nothing's really achieved and all Goodsey is doing is robbing himself and his community of the chance to get that due recognition.

Comes down to his own lived experience and what he feels comfortable with though.

That’s fair anyway like I said I know most will agree he shouldn’t go or should do what makes him happy etc

It is what it is I guess

Such a shame like the whole end to his career I’ll shut up about it now


I think we need a broader body that administers things like hall of fame (so it’s not just afl players too) and the code itself, rather than a comp controlling the game

 

[bedford]

He returning the brownlows then? Just an afl award?

Not much different to hall of fame

VFL thanks

 

[bedford]

When he goes in should be straight in as a Legend which he is

 

[Tedeski]

fu** Gil though

Get up and call the prick out

End of the day the AFL comp being custodians of the greater code /hall of fame etc is an issue

But for every f***er who Adam feels pushed him out there are hundreds of thousands of us who cherished every minute of watching the great man, who cheered him on, who tried to drown out any boos etc

Get up and thank them for a start

Even just forgetting the rest of the AFL world. He is a dual Brownlow Medallist & two time premiership Swan who represented our great club magnificently & has a massive following of past & present Swan supporters. Forget the non Swans & the rest of Australia. Just accept it for the Sydney Swans & South Melbourne Football Club community who know him as one of the greatest players to ever play in the red & white & who idolise him as the legend he is.

As a long time supporter of this club I would like to see him accept it sooner rather than later but I can understand where he is coming from.
Perhaps as Bedders said, he is waiting for the AFL 'toilet' to be fully flushed of any lumps of still present from that time & any of the remaining stains stuck to the bowl, scrubbed away for good.

 

[Bloods86]

Adam can and is doing what he wants, as it should be. It's his call, he owes the AFL industry and even fans nothing anymore. Swans fans and a decent number from other clubs, most players (especially recent past/present) and some in the industry recognise he's a legend anyway - so hopefully he finds some level of comfort in that.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Disappointing decision by Goodsey.

Hope he realizes that he's loved and respected by the vast majority & they'd all love to see him in the Hall of Fame, where he rightfully belongs.

 

[The Gong]

Adam can and is doing what he wants, as it should be. It's his call, he owes the AFL industry and even fans nothing anymore. Swans fans and a decent number from other clubs, most players (especially recent past/present) and some in the industry recognise he's a legend anyway - so hopefully he finds some level of comfort in that.

He accepted his induction as a Bloods Legend in 2019 in the Swans HOF. That may be all he wants or needs. I'm glad that the relationship with the club is still strong because it would be a true tragedy if that was ever broken considering the immense respect he has from the club and its supporters.

 

[bedford]

Richard Gorder has just released a statement saying Adam declined earlier in the year and didn't want that to get out. Someone might be able to get it up on here .

 

[Chaisa]

Richard Gorder has just released a statement saying Adam declined earlier in the year and didn't want that to get out. Someone might be able to get it up on here .

So much for him ‘attention seeking’.

 

[WillHayward]

Still pisses me off that Eddie waltzes around Melbourne like a big swinging dick name dropping and power broking and keeping his multiple jobs.
If we were in the US or UK Eddie would be banished.
But not down here.

 

[Crust]

Smart move by Adam.
Placing an asterisk on the Hall of Fame reminds everyone how he was treated, and the longer he is not in the the HoF the longer that message lasts.
People forget too easily. If he accepts, his treatment will be consigned to ancient history - "that was all in the past and we are more enlightened now".
But we are not - Eddie F. N. Maguire's press conference was only a couple of months ago.

 

[Kirkswan]

Very saddened that it ever came to this state of affairs...

Adam should (and most likely has) done whatever he felt was right.

 

[alex4445]

1. Adam Goodes does not owe "the fans" anything. He was a key part of the unprecedented success this club has achieved over the last 20 years and has been one of the greatest representatives of this club in its history. Without him it is easy to see us without the 2005 or 2012 premierships.

2. If Goodes had accepted he would have put himself and his family back in the spotlight. The typical racists would have called him a hypocrite for accepting it and if he had taken that opportunity to speak out against the AFL administration he would have been called disrespectful and attention seeking and "why cant we keep this out of the game and just focus on the footy". It is literally a no win situation.

3. While i dont want to put words into Adam's mouth i imagine that he doesnt see much value in such an " honour" when the organization responsible for it has no honour themselves. Especially when it could be misconstrued as some sort of reflection of how the game and its administrators have "come such a long way" clap yourselves on the back boys we didnt really do much of anything really but we solved racism, how good are we!

So yeah to those who felt let down by Adam might i suggest that he owes you nothing and your selfish, self centered and entitled thinking requires some self reflection.

 

[bedford]

1. Adam Goodes does not owe "the fans" anything. He was a key part of the unprecedented success this club has achieved over the last 20 years and has been one of the greatest representatives of this club in its history. Without him it is easy to see us without the 2005 or 2012 premierships.

2. If Goodes had accepted he would have put himself and his family back in the spotlight. The typical racists would have called him a hypocrite for accepting it and if he had taken that opportunity to speak out against the AFL administration he would have been called disrespectful and attention seeking and "why cant we keep this out of the game and just focus on the footy". It is literally a no win situation.

3. While i dont want to put words into Adam's mouth i imagine that he doesnt see much value in such an " honour" when the organization responsible for it has no honour themselves. Especially when it could be misconstrued as some sort of reflection of how the game and its administrators have "come such a long way" clap yourselves on the back boys we didnt really do much of anything really but we solved racism, how good are we!

So yeah to those who felt let down by Adam might i suggest that he owes you nothing and your selfish, self centered and entitled thinking requires some self reflection.

Crap

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

I support his decision (not this matters a jot). The same people who failed to address the issue and in some cases were part of the problem are still lurking around the AFL, the media and Clubland.

That is aside from the good old Aussie trash who still hold repugnant views. I note some texter to SEN this am was permanently banned by Lyon for clearly gross racist comments about Adam.

Had he agreed all the arseholes in the AFL and media like McGuire would say its all good we are mates with Adam. The ceremony would have been a faux 'healing'.

As Bloods fans and decent humans we all know what an absolute champion player and person he is. We don't need any shyteshow at Crown to prove that.

 

[J_Moore]

Goodes’ commitment to his principles is so admirable. A portrait of quiet courage and dignity throughout this entire thing.

swans legend. **** the afl.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

1. Adam Goodes does not owe "the fans" anything. He was a key part of the unprecedented success this club has achieved over the last 20 years and has been one of the greatest representatives of this club in its history. Without him it is easy to see us without the 2005 or 2012 premierships.

2. If Goodes had accepted he would have put himself and his family back in the spotlight. The typical racists would have called him a hypocrite for accepting it and if he had taken that opportunity to speak out against the AFL administration he would have been called disrespectful and attention seeking and "why cant we keep this out of the game and just focus on the footy". It is literally a no win situation.

3. While i dont want to put words into Adam's mouth i imagine that he doesnt see much value in such an " honour" when the organization responsible for it has no honour themselves. Especially when it could be misconstrued as some sort of reflection of how the game and its administrators have "come such a long way" clap yourselves on the back boys we didnt really do much of anything really but we solved racism, how good are we!

So yeah to those who felt let down by Adam might i suggest that he owes you nothing and your selfish, self centered and entitled thinking requires some self reflection.

I don't feel "let down by Adam".

Just disappointed that he's chosen not to accept, because its an honor he's worthy of.

Does that make me selfish, self centered and entitled?

I shall reflect on it.

 

[Ticky009]

I think it's telling that in the article Tim Watson says he's surprised because it's been 5 years. Sigh.

 

[alex4445]

I don't feel "let down by Adam".

Just disappointed that he's chosen not to accept, because its an honor he's worthy of.

Does that make me selfish, self centered and entitled?

I shall reflect on it.

You are perfectly entitled to be disappointed. To be " let down" is a suggestion that he has made an improper decision essentially blaming him for not accepting. If you dont feel that way then you dont need to reflect on anything.

 

[alex4445]

Crap

You write just the most valuable posts on this board Champ, maybe you can explain yourself like an adult Buddy. Or do I have to try and figure out myself Friend.

Perhaps bedford we can have a discussion that we can both benefit from?

 

[The Gong]

I think it's telling that in the article Tim Watson says he's surprised because it's been 5 years. Sigh.

Tim Watson said:

“The damage that occurred at that time, I thought it might have eased on him mentally and he might have been able to repair some of those bridges between himself and the game and feel differently about his time and then just appreciated all the great things about the game that were delivered to him, that he earned for himself."

I see a lot of victim blaming in there like Adam is the issue and he should have worked to repair things. That's the issue in a nutshell. Get stuffed, Tim Watson.

 

[bedford]

You write just the most valuable posts on this board Champ, maybe you can explain yourself like an adult Buddy. Or do I have to try and figure out myself Friend.
I've said what i feel in earlier posts sport , i didn't agree with a lot of your rant , what do you want me to do .