Media Swans Talk in the Media 2024

[Ticky009]

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[Ticky009]

Of course he was wayy better than our talls but then you weigh up what it would cost for him to move to Sydney and no he wont uproot his life for a 1yr deal on peanuts/list spots are also at a absolute premium.

If we got close yep it would make sense but Lynch would of contributed absolute zilch in the GF.

It cost them nothing to move across to a Melb based club for a final year - but moving to another state is a whole different kettle of fish. I can't blame them for that but media need to get their brains around it when they throw out suggestions like this. He'd be after a Parker like deal of at least 3 yrs.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Thought the same re Tom Lynch. Miles better than our talls, even if he plays below his best.

Even Tim Membrey would have been better than nothing

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Paps talking a bit about the GF, and post GF, on his Early Crow podcast:

Interest reaction at 5:45 to question on whether Papley or club would change how they approach a possible future grand final.

Papley winces, then looks up and away, then closes his eyes for a while. Then their is a cut to a new take.

I haven’t seen anyone in the club give a straight answer to this question. Is it that they can’t think of something, don’t know what to change, don’t want to face up to what they might need to change, or know what to change but don’t feel like they can say it?

 

[Cadsky]

Interest reaction at 5:45 to question on whether Papley or club would change how they approach a possible future grand final.

Papley winces, then looks up and away, then closes his eyes for a while. Then their is a cut to a new take.

I haven’t seen anyone in the club give a straight answer to this question. Is it that they can’t think of something, don’t know what to change, don’t want to face up to what they might need to change, or know what to change but don’t feel like they can say it?

Club orders not to discuss it

 

[Kiama Chris]

Interest reaction at 5:45 to question on whether Papley or club would change how they approach a possible future grand final.

Papley winces, then looks up and away, then closes his eyes for a while. Then their is a cut to a new take.

I haven’t seen anyone in the club give a straight answer to this question. Is it that they can’t think of something, don’t know what to change, don’t want to face up to what they might need to change, or know what to change but don’t feel like they can say it?

Maybe that they haven't yet conducted the review with the players and agreed what will happen so Paps can't speak for the club or the player group though maybe he would like to.

 

[Tedeski]

Interest reaction at 5:45 to question on whether Papley or club would change how they approach a possible future grand final.

Papley winces, then looks up and away, then closes his eyes for a while. Then their is a cut to a new take.

I haven’t seen anyone in the club give a straight answer to this question. Is it that they can’t think of something, don’t know what to change, don’t want to face up to what they might need to change, or know what to change but don’t feel like they can say it?

Because Paps knows the answer is to turn over the list to get rid of an abundance downhill skiers who are all his mates.

 

[BloodySwan]

Because Paps knows the answer is to turn over the list to get rid of an abundance downhill skiers who are all his mates.

You're reading what you want. He clearly has no idea what went wrong

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

You're reading what you want. He clearly has no idea what went wrong

Nobody does or will otherwise 2024 would of not occurred after 2022.

 

[caesar88]

Nobody does or will otherwise 2024 would of not occurred after 2022.

Think I've said this before but I feel like it is a really tricky issue we have to overcome, because you can't really address and overcome it until the next time you're in a grand final. And since this GF issue has started, we've averaged nearly one grand final every four years. So it's not like it's a bad loss or a form slump where you can regroup and tackle the issue head on and then come out the following week and exorcise our demons. We can't actually do anything about it or put our lessons to the test until our next grand final appearance rolls around.

Having said that we can't do anything about it, as I've said before I think there were structural and game plan things we could've done better to at least give ourselves a better chance in this year's grand final.

And I'm giving Horse & co some benefit of the doubt re the grand final issue, but they also had every week to do something about the slow starts, and they couldn't do anything about it pretty much all year. So, yeah. Not great.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Think I've said this before but I feel like it is a really tricky issue we have to overcome, because you can't really address and overcome it until the next time you're in a grand final. And since this GF issue has started, we've averaged nearly one grand final every four years. So it's not like it's a bad loss or a form slump where you can regroup and tackle the issue head on and then come out the following week and exorcise our demons. We can't actually do anything about it or put our lessons to the test until our next grand final appearance rolls around.

Having said that we can't do anything about it, as I've said before I think there were structural and game plan things we could've done better to at least give ourselves a better chance in this year's grand final.

And I'm giving Horse & co some benefit of the doubt re the grand final issue, but they also had every week to do something about the slow starts, and they couldn't do anything about it pretty much all year. So, yeah. Not great.

You know without any other factors winning a GF is tough on it's own now add additional circumstances to our 22 and all they will be thinking about is failure and doubt before they take the field.

Not to mention the media reporting around it if Longmire is still coaching us.

Personally it will probably be our best flag ever if we break through with a similar side yes better than 05.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Think I've said this before but I feel like it is a really tricky issue we have to overcome, because you can't really address and overcome it until the next time you're in a grand final. And since this GF issue has started, we've averaged nearly one grand final every four years. So it's not like it's a bad loss or a form slump where you can regroup and tackle the issue head on and then come out the following week and exorcise our demons. We can't actually do anything about it or put our lessons to the test until our next grand final appearance rolls around.

Having said that we can't do anything about it, as I've said before I think there were structural and game plan things we could've done better to at least give ourselves a better chance in this year's grand final.

And I'm giving Horse & co some benefit of the doubt re the grand final issue, but they also had every week to do something about the slow starts, and they couldn't do anything about it pretty much all year. So, yeah. Not great.

Maturity, focus and having a steely resolve is what it's going to come down to. Not to say that these things were the reason (although i do think so), but it's the way out of it come another GF. The whole group needs to develop the mental maturity to own and be the leader of their individual role in the team, rather than a follower.

I also feel like players feel relieved making the grand final. Need to transform that thinking into it meaning shit all unless they win the final game. Has to be desperation stakes and an absolute given that every player is going to go down to the well one last time. We had too many players who were just hoping their teammates would go down to the well for them. Simply put, the occasion got to them and they were 'hoping' to be premiers rather than actually doing their job.

I don't think it has anything to do with coaching or prep. I think it came down to having a bunch of nervous 'boys' where it needs to be steely 'men' who know what needs to be done to create a legacy for themselves. Fox seems to be the only mature bloke among them, and I think Adam's would have been another. Future success is going to come down to their progression as adults rather than their actual footy imo.

 

[Nuggetz]

Maturity, focus and having a steely resolve is what it's going to come down to. Not to say that these things were the reason (although i do think so), but it's the way out of it come another GF. The whole group needs to develop the mental maturity to own and be the leader of their individual role in the team, rather than a follower.

I also feel like players feel relieved making the grand final. Need to transform that thinking into it meaning shit all unless they win the final game. Has to be desperation stakes and an absolute given that every player is going to go down to the well one last time. We had too many players who were just hoping their teammates would go down to the well for them. Simply put, the occasion got to them and they were 'hoping' to be premiers rather than actually doing their job.

I don't think it has anything to do with coaching or prep. I think it came down to having a bunch of nervous 'boys' where it needs to be steely 'men' who know what needs to be done to create a legacy for themselves. Fox seems to be the only mature bloke among them, and I think Adam's would have been another. Future success is going to come down to their progression as adults rather than their actual footy imo.

The psyche of 'one game doesn't define us' needs to be flipped. It should be 'one game defines us', it would unlock a level of desperation in play that has been missing since 2012/2016 GF. They have to take it as the GF defines their careers, rather than be afraid of the pressure that comes with that type of mindset.

Imo the 'one game doesn't define us' mentality is just to avoid the elephant in the room which is the pressure associated with the GF. You have to take it head on & embrace the pressure.

 

[Cadsky]

The psyche of 'one game doesn't define us' needs to be flipped. It should be 'one game defines us', it would unlock a level of desperation in play that has been missing since 2012/2016 GF. They have to take it as the GF defines their careers, rather than be afraid of the pressure that comes with that type of mindset.

Imo the 'one game doesn't define us' mentality is just to avoid the elephant in the room which is the pressure associated with the GF. You have to take it head on & embrace the pressure.

 

[bedford]

Good Day

 

[Cadsky]

Good Day

Is fine and sunny up here in Brisbane. How's your day down their?

 

[Kiama Chris]

The psyche of 'one game doesn't define us' needs to be flipped. It should be 'one game defines us', it would unlock a level of desperation in play that has been missing since 2012/2016 GF. They have to take it as the GF defines their careers, rather than be afraid of the pressure that comes with that type of mindset.

Imo the 'one game doesn't define us' mentality is just to avoid the elephant in the room which is the pressure associated with the GF. You have to take it head on & embrace the pressure.

The attitude I want to see is "this is an opportunity to define myself as a premiership player and I will take it if it kills me" and "my mates and I will do this for each other or die trying". Anything else is stoopid.

 

[bedford]

Is fine and sunny up here in Brisbane. How's your day down their?

Shithouse , but that's off topic

 

[Old Kenny]

The psyche of 'one game doesn't define us' needs to be flipped. It should be 'one game defines us', it would unlock a level of desperation in play that has been missing since 2012/2016 GF. They have to take it as the GF defines their careers, rather than be afraid of the pressure that comes with that type of mindset.

Imo the 'one game doesn't define us' mentality is just to avoid the elephant in the room which is the pressure associated with the GF. You have to take it head on & embrace the pressure.

Every game defines us.

 

[Cadsky]

Shithouse , but that's off topic

I'm sending good vibes your way

 

[Ticky009]

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[bedford]

New faces, selection squeezes: Every AFL club’s best 23 for 2025 after the trade period

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Fox really push that content crap , so many poor journos that have to justify their existence

 

[Bloods86]

Fox really push that content crap , so many poor journos that have to justify their existence

Plus all they did was Parker out, Mills in.

Pay me the money and I could guarantee my team generates more clicks.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Fox really push that content crap , so many poor journos that have to justify their existence

Truly dreadful. They know SFA about our list.

 

[bedford]

Truly dreadful. They know SFA about our list.

They know nothing

 

[Ticky009]

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