Media Swans Talk in the Media 2024

[Cadsky]

Complacency, culture and fitting in fresh faces: Every AFL club’s biggest off-season issue

Achilles heel that must be fixed; culture shift starts now: Every club’s biggest off-season issue

www.foxsports.com.au

What frustrates me is all these so called experts write their articles like we can just go out and get any player we want without taking into account the fact that virtually no one wants to move to Sydney. And when we do, the sky is falling because how did we get another one? Yet no questions ever get asked how teams like Geelong, Carlton, pies ect constantly add to their list year after year and never have a cap to manage.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Complacency, culture and fitting in fresh faces: Every AFL club’s biggest off-season issue

Achilles heel that must be fixed; culture shift starts now: Every club’s biggest off-season issue

www.foxsports.com.au

I think our problems either end of the field pale in comparison to what happens in the middle. We too often get over powered at the start of games. Our midfield is recognised as being susceptible to high pressure and opposition teams know this, thus even sides like Richmond and North can worry us.

I place the responsibility in rectifying this on Mills' shoulders. AA midfielder, club captain and should be primed for a massive 2025 after this year. Hopefully he gets a bit of help from Adams and Sheldrick.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

What frustrates me is all these so called experts write their articles like we can just go out and get any player we want without taking into account the fact that virtually no one wants to move to Sydney. And when we do, the sky is falling because how did we get another one? Yet no questions ever get asked how teams like Geelong, Carlton, pies ect constantly add to their list year after year and never have a cap to manage.

While not equating to success yet Port has been one of the most active clubs in trading for the last decade.

Adelaide/WA clubs are getting the go home factor.

Its a incredible disadvantage both NSW clubs face nothing can be done about it either untill the overflow of the academy begins to dilute the pool enough (many decades to go)

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Posted in the draft thread but seemed a bit relevant here considering the above:

Just looking at our first rounders for the last twenty years (drafts where we had a pick only). I guess we'd have to agree onwhat we consider a hit or miss. Is it picking a good player or is them staying at your club the measure of success? I'm not including Academy picks for better or worse in this.

• 2006:
  
  • Pick 15: Dylan O'Keefe. Miss
• 2007:
  
  • Pick 11: Daniel Veszpremi - 23 games - Miss
• 2008:
  
  • Pick 12: Lewis Johnston - 10 games - Miss
• 2009:
  
  • Pick 6: Gary Rohan 204 games (106 for us) Hit
  • Pick 14 Lewis Jetta 216 games (127 for us) Hit
• 2010:
  
  • Pick 21 Jed Lamb - 66 Games (12 for us) Miss
• 2012
  
  • Pick 22: Dean Towers 57 Games Miss I guess but not a lot was going on in that section of this draft.
• 2013
  
  • Pick 15: Zac Jones - 150 games (90 for us) Hit
• 2016
  
  • Pick 11: Ollie Florent - 168 games and counting. Hit
  • Pick 21: Will Hayward - 163 games and counting. Hit
• 2017
  
  • Pick 14: Matthew Ling - O games. Miss
• 2019
  
  • Pick 5 Dylan Stephens - 59 Games (43 for us) Miss
• 2020
  
  • Pick 4: Logan McDonald - 68 Games - Jury out
• 2021
  
  • Pick 19: Angus Sheldrick - 9 Games - Jury out
• 2022
  
  • Pick 20: Jacob Konstanty - 0 Games - Miss
• 2023
  
  • Pick 16: Will Green - 0 Games - Jury out.

If you look through the rankings on Draftguru, there are very few of our first round picks that are judged to have been much poorer than those around them. Another thing to consider is that most of our live first rounders have been at the tail end of the first round. Five of them in the last twenty years were outside what would be the first round in a pure draft. Of our live picks inside the top ten, we've had a bad miss (Stephens), a 200 gamer, and McDonald, who looks to be on track for 150 games or more.

I guess my question is, what does a good record with these picks over this period look like? Would definitely have been great to have nailed 2019, but who's doing a great deal better when they're starting their draft in the late teens / early 20s?

Given we're just about always starting outside of the top 10, I don't think the amount of misses are unjustified.

We did well in 2009 with decent picks (9 & 14) and did well in 2016 with 11 & 21.

2020 & 2021 I call a pass at this stage even though the jury is still out.

Stephens at pick 5 was the biggest catastrophe imo. Was such a wasted pick.

I think there are a lot of teams that have blown much better draft hands than us.

 

[Millky95]

Might be a destination club if we don't choke flags

 

[caesar88]

 

[Bloods86]

I'd like Dillon to come out and say there's a club just north of the border that's brought the AFL into disrepute at the end of the season and shown conduct unbecoming of a professional football club.

Problem is we wouldn't know which NSW club he's talking about.

 

[Voula]

Article about the Paul Roos interview posted above. Interesting comments about Demetriou and umpiring.

Swans great levels startling claim against ex-AFL boss over infamous sledge

The Swans premiership coach has opened up on the controversy. Details here.

au.sports.yahoo.com

 

[Mister B]

Roosy telling us what we already knew / know. CEO slagging us off. Chairman vowing revenge after we prevented their draft tampering. A trade ban for doing nothing wrong. Two of the most one sided GF free kick counts in the games history in 2012 and 2016. Weekly, we see our mids held but never rewarded while we get pinged the minute we breathe on an opponent, ditto with our forwards.

Any other club would have spoken up long ago. We just accept it. Weak.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Roosy telling us what we already knew / know. CEO slagging us off. Chairman vowing revenge after we prevented their draft tampering. A trade ban for doing nothing wrong. Two of the most one sided GF free kick counts in the games history in 2012 and 2016. Weekly, we see our mids held but never rewarded while we get pinged the minute we breathe on an opponent, ditto with our forwards.

Any other club would have spoken up long ago. We just accept it. Weak.

A club with no backbone atm.

 

[anotherletdown]

Because Paps knows the answer is to turn over the list to get rid of an abundance downhill skiers who are all his mates.

Harsh!








But fair

 

[anotherletdown]

While not equating to success yet Port has been one of the most active clubs in trading for the last decade.

Adelaide/WA clubs are getting the go home factor.

Its a incredible disadvantage both NSW clubs face nothing can be done about it either untill the overflow of the academy begins to dilute the pool enough (many decades to go)

Aggressive passing on academy players.

If we have a live pick within a few spots we should pass a few times, helps drive down false bids in future and gives the clubs a bit of retention uncertainty of their own to deal with.

Only accept bids when they are warranted

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

A club with no backbone atm.

Paul Keating would say we are a shiver looking for a spine to run up.