Teams you think will definitely not make the 8

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No prizes for Dees, GWS and perhaps the Saints but are there any other teams you think are dead certs to miss September?

??? ... unless 2-5 wins is getting you finals footy. Cannot see the Bullies or Brisbane making it this year. The rest is blancmange.
 
Other than the 3 you mentioned in the OP, the only one I certainly can't see Brisbane making the finals. Nowhere near good enough at this stage.

Next in line would be the Dogs and they'll almost certainly miss out but they aren't completely without a chance if things go their way.

A case could be made for every other club in the competition to feature in September.
 
West Coast. They have a good forwardline and a good defense but their midfield is not great, and some of their starting 22 don't have the versatility to be able to push into the midfield. It's pretty much Wellingham (their best midfielder for 2014 IMO), Shuey, Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Gaff and Ellis with possibly Yeo rotating through there. There no A grade midfielders in that group, Gaff seems to have peaked as the outside runner, and I wonder whether guys like Selwood, Masten or Rosa will improve. I think they can, but will they?

People talk about Naitanui getting hitouts. But Naitanui and Cox often won the hitouts last year but still lost the match. Naitanui and Cox got 81 hitouts against Richmond last year and yet they lost because Richmond were willing to give up first possession but get the second by pressuring West Coast into making a mistake, which is Geelong's tactics. I understand that Naitanui makes West Coast play well but I think people assume West Coast could snap back into their 2012 form, but their midfield was much better then, it seems like Naitanui has a lot to do to spark a fairly pedestrian midfield.
 

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Footscray still one year off challenging for a top 8 spot I think.

they are my smokey, may be a similar scenario to what we saw of Port Adelaide.

Dogs lost by an average margin of only 25 points to the eventual top 4 teams last year. They were able to defeat Carlton and Port Adelaide and they have a host of young talent really creating a stir.
They also have a very good draw this year so they are a genuine chance of making the 8.
 
Western Bulldogs and Brisbane.
 
Just curious, why does everyone have Brisbane as a certainty to miss the 8? Came within a bees dick of the 8 this year, and haven't lost any crucial players
 
West Coast. They have a good forwardline and a good defense but their midfield is not great, and some of their starting 22 don't have the versatility to be able to push into the midfield. It's pretty much Wellingham (their best midfielder for 2014 IMO), Shuey, Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Gaff and Ellis with possibly Yeo rotating through there. There no A grade midfielders in that group, Gaff seems to have peaked as the outside runner, and I wonder whether guys like Selwood, Masten or Rosa will improve. I think they can, but will they?

People talk about Naitanui getting hitouts. But Naitanui and Cox often won the hitouts last year but still lost the match. Naitanui and Cox got 81 hitouts against Richmond last year and yet they lost because Richmond were willing to give up first possession but get the second by pressuring West Coast into making a mistake, which is Geelong's tactics. I understand that Naitanui makes West Coast play well but I think people assume West Coast could snap back into their 2012 form, but their midfield was much better then, it seems like Naitanui has a lot to do to spark a fairly pedestrian midfield.

Fair post, our midfield is definitely a weak point. But how was our midfield much better in 2012 exactly? It hasn't changed much
 
Just curious, why does everyone have Brisbane as a certainty to miss the 8? Came within a bees dick of the 8 this year, and haven't lost any crucial players

I think there are comfortably 8 teams better than Brisbane, they aren't bad but middle of the table at best.

As for my list saints GWS melbourne Bulldogs are the only teams with absolutely 0 chance of making the 8.

Carlton North Adelaide West coast have tiny chances
 

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