Mega Thread The 2017 'Buckley's Chances' Thread

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He's right about the ball movement but he could be wrong about the game plan. It might just be that our mids are lacking confidence at the moment.

and our Forwards missing there Chances does not fill the Mids with Confidence
 
Probably did pay him and he probably is trash. But he's right.
Right about what? Damir is just pissed off that the trigger clause for that lucrative 5th yr wasn't met. And now that Travis has a good half game of footy behind him, time is ripe to throw mud while he still has credibility. .It is one thing to talk about our ball movement but to make out Trav was a victim, and proclaim that as truth, nah.
 
Say what you want about his obvious position of bias, but is he wrong?

You'd have to be watching a different game to not acknowledge our ball movement is slow, we move the ball sideways too much, and that Darcy really isn't put in a position to play his best footy. I've been saying it for ages and everyone slags me off, tall forwards struggle under Buckley's system
 

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Cloke Sr being a classless mercenary control freak doesnt negate his ability to see what is happening.
All Mr senior Cloke sees is what's in it for him
Anything more is just by and by
 
You know, you can lead a horse to water (******** Snr) but you can't teach them how to drink.

Slobbo proves the best stories are the cheap snipes at Collingwood & Buckley, he does it over and over. Did Cloke ring Slobbo or did Slobbo ring Cloke?

4 goals & 32 touches in 2 weeks, less than average for a power forward. Roughhead & Redpath long term injuries- just wait till they are back, you'll see the same old story with Cloke.

This is text book gutter journalism

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It's ok for senior Cloke to watch his son but don't know if he was watching the forwards in front of Travis. Once again, if I'm a halfback or mid with the ball and look up to see what the forwards are doing, I would be looking sideways too.
Wish I could find the description of Cloke's leading patterns once posted on this board. Hilarious and spot on.
 
All Mr senior Cloke sees is what's in it for him
Anything more is just by and by

At the end of the day Travis Cloke is a 30 year old man being defended by his father :eek:

I think there are more issues at play than how our midfield kicks the ball....

Surprisingly Peter Moore hasn't felt the need to call the HS yet.
 
But does this voyeuristic story deserve the full back page treatment? The opinion of a perennially disgruntled parent (not saying he doesn't have a point) takes precedence over two Melbourne stars being pinged for a total of 5 weeks for very undisciplined hits. In fact deliberate punches, just when their team is flying?

Robbo licking his lips again over potting Bucks. He must have put all of 5 maybe 10 seconds thought into contacting David Cloke for a story. He admitted as much on AFL360. And of course Cloke delivered, as Robbo knew he would.
 
Thanks old mate

But remember at Aussie we'll save you


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But does this voyeuristic story deserve the full back page treatment? The opinion of a perennially disgruntled parent (not saying he doesn't have a point) takes precedence over two Melbourne stars being pinged for a total of 5 weeks for very undisciplined hits. In fact deliberate punches, just when their team is flying?

Robbo licking his lips again over potting Bucks. He must have put all of 5 maybe 10 seconds thought into contacting David Cloke for a story. He admitted as much in AFL360. And of course Cloke delivered, as Robbo knew he would.

I think we have to remember about Robinson the old wise saying

  • You can't polish a turd
 

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Tonight is the first time I've posted anywhere about bucks, supported him from day 1, never got involved in the whole should've kept malthouse stuff - as an aside I believe that won us the flag as malthouse had shown no penchant for recruiting out desperate need a of a ruckman or in an under specialist (jolly and ball) until he say an end date, but I think the time has now come.

Ignore robbo and cloke Sr, irrelevant to the big picture, and ignore it's round 3 because in probability with our short term draw it won't get better.

To the Buckley defenders of which I was one, at what point can we say enough is enough? 5 years is ample time to eliminate all excuses of playing list, culture, injuries, skills etc they may be valid excuses to a new coach. It's now been 5 years to impose his way on the club.

In all honesty, I can't think of one area we have improved in the 5 years since 2011. And if that is the case we have to move. Look what beverage did in 18 months (I know I know those types don't grow on trees).

I find it frustrating those who say it's the players fault, Buckley cent help them kick goals from the box etc. But he's had 5 years to build a side that can do those things, and we don't look like thats improving, so surely it has to be his fault ultimately.

The lack of defensive run is no question his fault, because it is purely an effort thing not a skill thing. And surely he has to be accountable for the effort of the team? Just imagine Clarksons teams showing some of our defensive efforts.

Don't want this to be a 'buckleys crap' troll type of post. It's just simply time to try something new because for whatever reason this isnt working.

Or please explain what I am missing. I don't see it as a either love or hate Buckley thing, I genuinely can't see improvement and I love Buckley.
 
Apprently we've only won 11 of our last 35 games, if that's true....
That's true but you could also say 15 wins in 39 and so on
It's something like 20 wins in 46 games.

Bottom line is we havnt made finals in a while
 
But does this voyeuristic story deserve the full back page treatment? The opinion of a perennially disgruntled parent (not saying he doesn't have a point) takes precedence over two Melbourne stars being pinged for a total of 5 weeks for very undisciplined hits. In fact deliberate punches, just when their team is flying?

Robbo licking his lips again over potting Bucks. He must have put all of 5 maybe 10 seconds thought into contacting David Cloke for a story. He admitted as much on AFL360. And of course Cloke delivered, as Robbo knew he would.

On the bolded, Robbo protecting his mate Lewis on 360 whilst having a crack at some of the other incidents was hilarious vision.

Suggested Lewis may appeal. This Robbo bloke.....speechless. Crips has a broken jaw. How Lewis only got 3 weeks is the issue.
 
Tonight is the first time I've posted anywhere about bucks, supported him from day 1, never got involved in the whole should've kept malthouse stuff - as an aside I believe that won us the flag as malthouse had shown no penchant for recruiting out desperate need a of a ruckman or in an under specialist (jolly and ball) until he say an end date, but I think the time has now come.

Ignore robbo and cloke Sr, irrelevant to the big picture, and ignore it's round 3 because in probability with our short term draw it won't get better.

To the Buckley defenders of which I was one, at what point can we say enough is enough? 5 years is ample time to eliminate all excuses of playing list, culture, injuries, skills etc they may be valid excuses to a new coach. It's now been 5 years to impose his way on the club.

In all honesty, I can't think of one area we have improved in the 5 years since 2011. And if that is the case we have to move. Look what beverage did in 18 months (I know I know those types don't grow on trees).

I find it frustrating those who say it's the players fault, Buckley cent help them kick goals from the box etc. But he's had 5 years to build a side that can do those things, and we don't look like thats improving, so surely it has to be his fault ultimately.

The lack of defensive run is no question his fault, because it is purely an effort thing not a skill thing. And surely he has to be accountable for the effort of the team? Just imagine Clarksons teams showing some of our defensive efforts.

Don't want this to be a 'buckleys crap' troll type of post. It's just simply time to try something new because for whatever reason this isnt working.

Or please explain what I am missing. I don't see it as a either love or hate Buckley thing, I genuinely can't see improvement and I love Buckley.

Things will turn around for us soon.
 
On the bolded, Robbo protecting his mate Lewis on 360 whilst having a crack at some of the other incidents was hilarious vision.

Suggested Lewis may appeal. This Robbo bloke.....speechless. Crips has a broken jaw. How Lewis only got 3 weeks is the issue.

Lewis is a thug.
 
That's gold!
I really laughed.
Great work.

But this does not mean you can polish the slobbo turd - even the sewer rats would struggle on that one
One of the weird things about humanity is that we love to prove ourselves wrong all the time. When someone or thing, says we can't do something it just becomes a challenge to us. I think it may even be a greater enabler for progress than necessity and destruction.
And boy have we made progress in turd polishing. If you google turd polishing you get lots of options. Having your turd chrome plated is my favorite.
 
One of the weird things about humanity is that we love to prove ourselves wrong all the time. When someone or thing, says we can't do something it just becomes a challenge to us. I think it may even be a greater enabler for progress than necessity and destruction.
And boy have we made progress in turd polishing. If you google turd polishing you get lots of options. Having your turd chrome plated is my favorite.

Try polishing a turd after a dozen pints of Guinness.
 
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