Banter The No Dazzlering Big Cricket Thread

[Byron_Clanger]

Now that we won can India kinda f*ck off out of the country now? Been nothing but whiners and complainers the moment they set foot in Perth.

 

[Keys]

What a Test debut by Webster.

History will say it was a 3-1 series win by us but it was a hell of a lot closer than that suggests. We probably executed just a little bit better than they did over the course of the series.

Ultimately it was our better bowling depth that won the series for us

Indians left too much to Bumrah and it eventually led to him breaking down in the 5th test

We were able to spread the load better. Having a bowler of Bolands quality in reserve is pretty handy

 

[THE A5]

What a Test debut by Webster.

History will say it was a 3-1 series win by us but it was a hell of a lot closer than that suggests. We probably executed just a little bit better than they did over the course of the series.

Funny series. Bumrah kept them in it but was also the only dominant player throughout the series. Head/Smith made runs but also had lean patches throughout as well

 

[WCE_phil]

Ultimately it was our better bowling depth that won the series for us

Indians left too much to Bumrah and it eventually led to him breaking down in the 5th test

We were able to spread the load better. Having a bowler of Bolands quality in reserve is pretty handy

If Jhye can get fully fit (enough for test cricket) as a left arm option for when Starc isn't 100% it really in a terrific line up of quicks with depth.

So South Africa at Lords. That is going to be one hell of a match. The Saffers quicks are very good as well.

 

[THE A5]

Massive massive dickhead

Lol same w***er that told their fans not boo Smith when smudge played india for the first time since his bans.

The wheels are really falling off for Kohli.

 

[Dazzler9]

If Jhye can get fully fit (enough for test cricket) as a left arm option for when Starc isn't 100% it really in a terrific line up of quicks with depth.

So South Africa at Lords. That is going to be one hell of a match. The Saffers quicks are very good as well.

Jhye is talented, and I know his right shoulder is dodgy, but he's not ambidextrous.

 

[Keys]

If Jhye can get fully fit (enough for test cricket) as a left arm option for when Starc isn't 100% it really in a terrific line up of quicks with depth.

So South Africa at Lords. That is going to be one hell of a match. The Saffers quicks are very good as well.

Am I on drugs?

Was sure Richardson is right handed

 

[chunkylover]

Am I on drugs?

Was sure Richardson is right handed

Reminds me of a story Richie Benaud told about an older SCG member who watched the game in the reflection of a large mirror in the bar. He thought Bradman was left handed for the first few years of his career

 

[Godfather32]

Phil's Dad is stuck in the late 80's

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Pretty funny how quickly India collapsed out of the WTC race. They were in the box seat going into the NZ series, even with a tough series coming up in Australia. Losing 3-1 in Australia is defensible; getting swept at home by a rugby-mad country of roughly 1.5 billion fewer people is not.

 

[WCE_phil]

Am I on drugs?

Was sure Richardson is right handed

Apologies i'm losing it. Red wine and hot weather overnight.... No excuse but it's been a rough morning.

 

[Ochre]

Pretty funny how quickly India collapsed out of the WTC race. They were in the box seat going into the NZ series, even with a tough series coming up in Australia. Losing 3-1 in Australia is defensible; getting swept at home by a rugby-mad country of roughly 1.5 billion fewer people is not.

An incredible start to Gambhir's coaching tenure, hopefully he's there a long time

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Horses for courses is fine. But Handscomb aint that horse.

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I think there is not nearly enough horses for courses done, to be honest. Whenever Australia play overseas the big three quicks are always selected, except in the subcontinent where it’s usually two of them and an extra spinner. You could easily argue that someone like Starc, who has a fairly pedestrian record in England, is not as suited for English conditions as bowlers who rely less on pace and bounce and more on swing, like Boland or Neser or Paris.

This is not unique to Australia either. Look at India’s XI when they faced NZ, it was the same top 5 bats, same fast bowlers, only difference was Sarfaraz Khan instead of NKR and always playing two spinners. And the main reason that Khan didn’t play in Aus was because he had 5 very poor scores in the NZ series including some pretty humiliating dismissals, and then made 1 in the PM XI match. He was dropped, basically. So what are the chances that the best 5-6 bats and best 3-4 quicks in Indian conditions are the exact same people as the bats and quicks best suited to the wildly different Australian wickets? Very low, I would say.

 

[Dazzler9]

Pretty funny how quickly India collapsed out of the WTC race. They were in the box seat going into the NZ series, even with a tough series coming up in Australia. Losing 3-1 in Australia is defensible; getting swept at home by a rugby-mad country of roughly 1.5 billion fewer people is not.

Playing the WTC every two years is too often. It allows for instance, South Africa to make the final without playing either of Australia or India.

 

[eaglevision]

Apologies i'm losing it. Red wine and hot weather overnight.... No excuse but it's been a rough morning.

Did you forget to ask for medium pressure?

 

[Dazzler9]

We really just need a knockout tournament that lasts 6-8 weeks between the top 8 ranked sides. The higher ranked teams get to play for a draw and progress. Something like that.

Edit: make each round a two-Test series.

 

[Tugga27]

Alright, now that the Mickey Mouse stuff is over, will MM and Jhye be available for the real stuff on Tuesday?

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Playing the WTC every two years is too often. It allows for instance, South Africa to make the final without playing either of Australia or India.

Hell, they weren’t even trying to make the WTC for most of the cycle. They basically sent the equivalent of the PM XI to go and lose in New Zealand because all the good players stayed home to play in their version of the BBL.

 

[Shuestar13]

Good to win, but unfortunately does nothing to dispel the more long term concerns. The reckoning may be arriving next summer, delivered by our friends over yonder. Oh well

 

[Dazzler9]

Good to win, but unfortunately does nothing to dispel the more long term concerns. The reckoning may be arriving next summer, delivered by our friends over yonder. Oh well

The opening positions are the most worrisome. I'm not at all concerned about the remaining batting positions, especially if Green is fit. As for the cartel, Cummins is still young ish and knows how to prepare himself. Hazelwood and Starc are slightly more concerning with another 12 months on the clock, but if Boland still does Boland things, and Richardson's sticky tape holds together, we might just be ok.

Edit: throw in my personal favourite Joel Paris, who for some reason never cracks a mention.

 

[DorothyG]

Good to win, but unfortunately does nothing to dispel the more long term concerns. The reckoning may be arriving next summer, delivered by our friends over yonder. Oh well

Agree, I had the pitchforks out with most after Perth.
Fair bit of wallpapering going up after this series.
The future XI is still anyone's guess and no one is smashing the door down

 

[eaglevision]

Agree, I had the pitchforks out with most after Perth.
Fair bit of wallpapering going up after this series.
The future XI is still anyone's guess and no one is smashing the door down

3-4 years from now and I reckon it looks something like this:

Konstas
Hunt
Labuschagne
Connolly
Head
Webster
Inglis
Cummins
Richardson
O’Neill
Murphy

12th Man Green

Squad
McSweeney
Sutherland
Goodwin

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

The opening positions are the most worrisome. I'm not at all concerned about the remaining batting positions, especially if Green is fit. As for the cartel, Cummins is still young ish and knows how to prepare himself. Hazelwood and Starc are slightly more concerning with another 12 months on the clock, but if Boland still does Boland things, and Richardson's sticky tape holds together, we might just be ok.

Edit: throw in my personal favourite Joel Paris, who for some reason never cracks a mention.

Paris’ first class average is 19.47, which I’m pretty certain is the best of any bowler in Australia. It’s a crime that he doesn’t get more consideration.

 

[Bender_]

Guys, they just won the BGT for the first time in 10 years - no idea why some go for the downer scenarios for later down track. Enjoy the moment.

 

[THE A5]

Paris’ first class average is 19.47, which I’m pretty certain is the best of any bowler in Australia. It’s a crime that he doesn’t get more consideration.

He unfortunately got injured at the wrong times of his career and sorta got consistent games in in his late 20’s and into his 30’s. I would love to see him play test cricket however, they now need to back in youth.

In Sri Lanka they should defs go with two pacers and it’s so doctored for spin there they sometime only play one pacer at home and even open with spin. Starc cops a lot of flack but he causes havoc against Sri Lankan batsmen and averages 17 with 29 wickets in 5 matches. Amazing record considering how spin dominant the pitches are there. Starc and Cummins should be enough and then two spinners