The Otherworldly Circus - The America Thread

[BrisDog]

Biden voted for Trump.

In all seriousness, if you claim to follow politics, you would know how much him and kamala hate each other...View attachment 2165567

We aren’t all lucky enough to have the Secret Service contacts like yourself glenashley.

On a side note- who has more Botox: Biden or Matt Gaetz? Shocking look for both men and women.

 

[Pugz89]

To be a fly on the wall in these cabinet meetings........

I'm actually fairly encouraged by these picks, the majority will crash and burn during the first year or so of the term even if they get through nomination. They're woefully unfit for the jobs they're being put forward for.

If you manage to compartmentalise that this could actually have harmful, real-life consequences for people (particularly the RFK pick, if he gets through), it'll be an interesting watch from afar over the coming months.

How could the RFK pick be harmful to people?

 

[hutchy31]

How could the RFK pick be harmful to people?

Well, imo having someone in charge of the health portfolio who has promulgated anti-vaccine information will almost certainly lead to fewer people becoming vaccinated and an increasing likelihood of illness among sections of the population. That on its own is harmful enough, let alone anything else he’ll target.

If (and it’s an enormous if) he/the Trump administration do something about the harm that big pharma does then maybe it’ll work out in the wash. But I’d have significant doubts about that happening given they’ll likely be susceptible to overtures by corporate interests.

 

[Pugz89]

Well, imo having someone in charge of the health portfolio who has promulgated anti-vaccine information will almost certainly lead to fewer people becoming vaccinated and an increasing likelihood of illness among sections of the population. That on its own is harmful enough, let alone anything else he’ll target.

If (and it’s an enormous if) he/the Trump administration do something about the harm that big pharma does then maybe it’ll work out in the wash. But I’d have significant doubts about that happening given they’ll likely be susceptible to overtures by corporate interests.

Possibly. Vaccinations aren't the only solution though, and I think that is all he is meaning. He seems, at least from what i've read, more about prevention and taking a more holistic approach. Eat better, vitamins etc, rather than waiting to get sick then treating it. Anywho, he is 70 and is in great shape for his age, see how it pans out I guess.
Shouldn't be a surprise he was announced as secretary though, Trump hasn't exactly hidden the fact RFK was going to have a significant role in the new administration, even before the election.

 

[Fossie 32]

Well, imo having someone in charge of the health portfolio who has promulgated anti-vaccine information will almost certainly lead to fewer people becoming vaccinated and an increasing likelihood of illness among sections of the population. That on its own is harmful enough, let alone anything else he’ll target.

If (and it’s an enormous if) he/the Trump administration do something about the harm that big pharma does then maybe it’ll work out in the wash. But I’d have significant doubts about that happening given they’ll likely be susceptible to overtures by corporate interests.

Free bleach injections for all MAGAs ?

 

[ScragCity]

I strongly suspect that this is the last time we will see a peaceful transfer of power in the US. They had a great run but democracy fails the moment you hand power to someone who wouldn't willingly hand it back.

 

[glenashley]

We aren’t all lucky enough to have the Secret Service contacts like yourself glenashley.

On a side note- who has more Botox: Biden or Matt Gaetz? Shocking look for both men and women.

I've found something we can agree on.

Botox is an awful look.

 

[Pugz89]

Free bleach injections for all MAGAs ?

To be fair, he never actually told people to inject bleach.

Trump made the remark after Bill Bryan, who leads the Department of Homeland Security's science and technology division, gave a presentation on research his team has conducted that shows that the virus doesn't live as long in warmer and more humid temperatures. Bryan said, "The virus dies quickest in sunlight," leaving Trump to wonder whether you could bring the light "inside the body."
"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing," Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that." (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...fectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216)


To be fair, stupid thing to say about any disinfectant. But he simply asked a question about it, it wasn't a statement.
Interestingly, it has since come out that a large amoung of people who had covid the worst were vitamin D deficient. (In this Danish observational study of 447 COVID-19 patients, we observed that deficient vitamin D levels were associated with an elevated risk of progressing to a more severe COVID-19 outcome. - Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21513-9)
So his "sunlight" and "ultraviolet" comments somewhat make a little sense.

 

[BrisDog]

RFK may be anti-vax until it comes to steroids - bloke is juiced to the gills. Very bad for heart and liver health.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

From the man that eats maccas three times a day…

 

[Bulldog1954]

Well, imo having someone in charge of the health portfolio who has promulgated anti-vaccine information will almost certainly lead to fewer people becoming vaccinated and an increasing likelihood of illness among sections of the population. That on its own is harmful enough, let alone anything else he’ll target.

Like it did when he and the Children's Health Defense he led meddled in Samoa.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

To be fair, he never actually told people to inject bleach.

Trump made the remark after Bill Bryan, who leads the Department of Homeland Security's science and technology division, gave a presentation on research his team has conducted that shows that the virus doesn't live as long in warmer and more humid temperatures. Bryan said, "The virus dies quickest in sunlight," leaving Trump to wonder whether you could bring the light "inside the body."
"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing," Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that." (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...fectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216)


To be fair, stupid thing to say about any disinfectant. But he simply asked a question about it, it wasn't a statement.
Interestingly, it has since come out that a large amoung of people who had covid the worst were vitamin D deficient. (In this Danish observational study of 447 COVID-19 patients, we observed that deficient vitamin D levels were associated with an elevated risk of progressing to a more severe COVID-19 outcome. - Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21513-9)
So his "sunlight" and "ultraviolet" comments somewhat make a little sense.

Not really. It's just a reflection of his well known inability to take in a briefing (which would've been as you describe) and then reprocess it into information that is useful to anybody who thinks that Trump actually understands what he's regulating out like a dyslexic baboon as he goes on one of his freewheeling tangents of nonsense in front of a nation looking for answers.

This is the same guy who never used to read anything put in front of him to such an extent that the PDB was nearly always given to Mike Pence to go over.

Dr. Birx reaction to the Trumps rambling nonsense as he tried to repeat things he was obviously told in a briefing a few minutes earlier but clearly didn't understand will never not be hilarious to me.

Never has anybody prayed so hard for a giant sink hole or a rip in the space time continuum to open up and swallow them whole as she looked on as he spewed dumb all over her lovely scarf. Im sure that theses days she gets a good laugh out of it at dinner parties as she recounts seeing his inherent stupidity first hand.



But sure, he tells everybody how smart he is because his uncle taught at MIT and that he can recite. "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.” without trouble.

You're a good boy Donald. A very good Boy.

The man is a dolt.

 

[Arkangel]

To be fair, stupid thing to say about any disinfectant. But he simply asked a question about it, it wasn't a statement.
Interestingly, it has since come out that a large amoung of people who had covid the worst were vitamin D deficient. (In this Danish observational study of 447 COVID-19 patients, we observed that deficient vitamin D levels were associated with an elevated risk of progressing to a more severe COVID-19 outcome. - Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21513-9)
So his "sunlight" and "ultraviolet" comments somewhat make a little sense.

Since being pedantic about science is part of my job description: In that study the people who died were more likely to have sufficient vitamin D levels than people who were hospitalised but did not die; and when they treated vitamin D levels as a continuous variable there was no statistically significant relationship with disease severity. It was only when they split vitamin D levels into arbitrary categories and excluded people who died from the analysis that they found a (barely) significant relationship.

This doesn't mean that there isn't some relationship between vitamin D levels and responses to COVID or health in general, just that that particular study is not great evidence of such. (And I'll avoid the temptation to go off on a tangent about how statistical significance is a silly concept in observational research…)

 

[ScragCity]

(And I'll avoid the temptation to go off on a tangent about how statistical significance is a silly concept in observational research…)

Please do

 

[King Harold]

People are actually cheering on these religious right wing nut jobs.
These 2 women lay it out very clearly.

 

[bobs head soup]

RFK may be anti-vax until it comes to steroids - bloke is juiced to the gills. Very bad for heart and liver health.

RFKJ sure is a strange unit. His daughter's account of the day he chain sawed the head off a dead whale and secured it to the roof of their vehicle is about as weird as it gets.

By chance, I read an autobiography of John Phillips (of the Mamas & Papas) last year, written in the 1990s.

He writes at length of years of chronic heroin and crack addiction when RFK Jr was his closest friend and codegenerate.

 

[King Harold]

RFKJ sure is a strange unit. His daughter's account of the day he chain sawed the head off a dead whale and secured it to the roof of their vehicle is about as weird as it gets.

By chance, I read an autobiography of John Phillips (of the Mamas & Papas) last year, written in the 1990s.

He writes at length of years of chronic heroin and crack addiction when RFK Jr was his closest friend and codegenerate.

Wow , Phillips was as messed up as you can get.
I have recently watched a fair bit of RFK , I’m not sure this bloke is not still suffering from mind altering drugs.
There is a conspiracy around every corner !
But here we are , the least detached from what was once reality, the better you will fit into MAGA world.