The Review

[Jcpdragonx]

Ok, so who in the Crows admin fu**ed this one up?


Dunstall? WTF!


I demand to know who stepped out of line and got something right?

I think they know they're ****ed, they might go out diligently this way supported by some PR bullshit.

Even Rowey has turned on the club, pressure from supporters is too much. Players don't care, we are the worst pressure team since the bye.

 

[dude316]

I'm shocked

 

[moses]

Dunstall will be no slouch. Should be some very nervous people at the club at the moment. I hope to God the report sheds more light of the CM debacle!

 

[Ramify]

How long was the review that Dunstall lead at Hawthorn?
Can he do with us what he managed to do there, in the timeframe he has with us?

I wager that he wont even stay the course.

 

[Scorpus]

I hope if the club doesn't implement Dunstall's recommendations that he roasts the club in the media until they do

 

[Vader]

I thought ROB was a revelation and only tired just before the last couple of games.
He did make more of a difference than you think and will poll well those games in the Club Champion Award.

How many of those games did we win?

Ruckmen are rarely the difference between winning or losing, unless they're freaks like Gawn, NicNat and (to a lesser extent) Grundy.

 

[mattymac]

It'll be like 2018. Make some changes around the edges and hope it turns around.

I don't believe the core guys like Roo, Burton and Campo will be going anywhere. To Rob Chapman touching them is an absolute non-starter.

Chapman is the one who needs to go first and foremost.

 

[Geoffa32]

Yes but one of many questions such as:' Does the club place too much emphasis on all of the above when concidering traditional club values and how does that effect on field performance, player retention etc, member satisfaction and engagement etc, exist and will remain unanswered until every facet of this now commercial organization is turned over.

A successful club is the sum of all things.
I couldn't give a rat's arse what the figures tell us and I dont pay money to be impressed by such things.

To me the "admin" side.provides the funds for the Footy Department.

We do that well. Well to an extent.that we can start funding a.new training facility and we never here about any compromises coming from lack of funding.

What this review seems to be looking at is whether or not the Football Department, headed by Burton, is using that funding well.

Coaches
Performance staff
Players
Other Football Department staff etc

And of course are their philosophies conducive to success.


Most of us here would say no.

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[mattymac]

It's never too late to sack people.

Essendon sacked coaches mid-season and immediately improved, preferring to go in with no one than who they had

Well yeah you know that, we all know that. But that's not how we operate.

Even if the review says, just as a hypothetical, Burton is the root of the problem, we will look after him, move him sideways, perhaps take over a ping pong team for him to manage a la Smart.

 

[Ramify]

To me the "admin" side.provides the funds for the Footy Department.

We do that well. Well to an extent.that we can start funding a.new training facility and we never here about any compromises coming from lack of funding.

What this review seems to be looking at is whether or not the Football Department, headed by Burton, is using that funding well.

Coaches
Performance staff
Players
Other Football Department staff etc

And of course are their philosophies conducive to success.


Most of us here would say no.

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I think this is a very modern way of looking at things but I still maintain there is much missing in the way of culture at this club which underpins and influences many aspects of on-field success.

Despite the level of professionalism at AFL level these days, players still want to fight for a cause and represent something bigger than a paycheck. Imagine the material Both Pyke and Hardwick had to work with in this regard during the G.F and how it influenced their respective teams mindset.

It's never going to be a case of pure science void of all human emotion no matter what levels of professionalism we reach.

All this money, all these members, all these goddamn impressive figures yet we cant front up the coin for a simple little watering hole where the players and members can mingle with each other post game????
Never mind we the ungteatful consumer, do you really think the players thrive on this sort of shit?

More than enough anecdotal evidence has leaked from the club over the past decade to suggest that this is a very real issue affecting on field performance,that our untouchable corporate overloads willingly chose to ignore.

 

[jenny61_99]

I still think the process is farcical and purely because they felt they had no other choice, and the fact it hasn't already started it a joke...

But I am happy with Dunstall chairing the review - I don't think he'd compromise his integrity by protecting people based on relationships.

Whilst you think it farcical, surely the choice of 4 on this review proves to you that they want outcomes. I think, not surprisingly, many of you can’t believe they’d be doing this seriously, but I think Roo was right the other night when he said they all want what’s best for the Club. With these appointments for the review, perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt (i know it’s hard given the history)?

 

[mattymac]

Whilst you think it farcical, surely the choice of 4 on this review proves to you that they want outcomes. I think, not surprisingly, many of you can’t believe they’d be doing this seriously, but I think Roo was right the other night when he said they all want what’s best for the Club. With these appointments for the review, perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt (i know it’s hard given the history)?

Let's hope so. All we all want is to be serious about being better. Sometimes you make decisions and they don't work out, but we want to see that all decisions are club first and club doesn't mean the people who work there, it means club success.

 

[Ramify]

Whilst you think it farcical, surely the choice of 4 on this review proves to you that they want outcomes. I think, not surprisingly, many of you can’t believe they’d be doing this seriously, but I think Roo was right the other night when he said they all want what’s best for the Club. With these appointments for the review, perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt (i know it’s hard given the history)?

I'd take Roo more seriously if I didnt continually bump into him all over town besides at AFC HQ. And that's not even taking into account seeing his ugly mug on TV or hearing his voice every morning on radio.

I'll take Roo seriously, whenever the time comes that Roo takes his job at AFC seriously.

 

[jenny61_99]

We're not getting rid of Pyke. Bicks kind of gave it away that we would do like the other reviews and try to surround the coach with competent people.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Morning_Fog]

Does anyone know what sort of relationship Dunstall and Pavlich have with Mark Riccuto?

Positive friendly or negative dislike of each other?

 

[subaru]

Ok, so who in the Crows admin fu**ed this one up?


Dunstall? WTF!


I demand to know who stepped out of line and got something right?

Sun even shines on a dog’s arse occasionally

And now imagine how good it would be if Dunstall could've cast an eye over our in-season football operations

Bit conflicting given Hawks late flurry for the 8
Better late and doing it properly i reckon

Some are just happy with emojis

Sun nice and warm now?

Whilst you think it farcical, surely the choice of 4 on this review proves to you that they want outcomes. I think, not surprisingly, many of you can’t believe they’d be doing this seriously, but I think Roo was right the other night when he said they all want what’s best for the Club. With these appointments for the review, perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt (i know it’s hard given the history)?

And hallelujah Jen !

 

[hey shorty]

Well yeah you know that, we all know that. But that's not how we operate.

Even if the review says, just as a hypothetical, Burton is the root of the problem, we will look after him, move him sideways, perhaps take over a ping pong team for him to manage a la Smart.

Oh please no.

 

[Ramify]

Does anyone know what sort of relationship Dunstall and Pavlich have with Mark Riccuto?

Positive friendly or negative dislike of each other?

Roo and Jason share the the same Barber and Personal Trainer. Not sure about voice Coach.

 

[Scorpus]

Does anyone know what sort of relationship Dunstall and Pavlich have with Mark Riccuto?

Positive friendly or negative dislike of each other?

They all work together as Fox Footy panelists. Not sure in what capacity

 

[hey shorty]

I wager that he wont even stay the course.

He will make sure he does.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Just saw the appointments. Great news. Dunstall will tee off at everyone.

 

[Morning_Fog]

They all work together as Fox Footy panelists. Not sure in what capacity

Hope Piggy isn’t a stooge and just a Riccuto yes man.

 

[Scorpus]

Hope Piggy isn’t a stooge and just a Riccuto yes man.

There is a possibility Roo and Dunstall are mates through the Fox connection

 

[jenny61_99]

Roo and Jason share the the same Barber and Personal Trainer. Not sure about voice Coach.

Interesting given Roo lives in Adelaide and Jason in Melbourne.

 

[mattymac]

Better late and doing it properly i reckon !

I'll leave it to you to work out the fallacy in this statement.

If you can manage it without a like button.