Mega Thread The Western Bulldogs - The Sack Macca saga

[SuperMacPherson]

Me?

Weak as piss these boards mate, I'd like to see these guys at games

 

[Ant_]

Me?

Everyone...play the ball not the man. We're all Doggies supporters and we're entitled to share our opinions regardless how strange they maybe.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Amongst many elements of the first two weeks that were embarassing and to do with coaching/selection issues primarily:

What concerned me most about today's debacle was the apparent lack of a gameplan.

Crameri is still being played out of position. You don't go out to recruit a forward only to convert him into a midfielder, particularly when our forward line stinks as much as ours has thus far in 2014.

Griffen was brought back far too soon, was clearly underdone.

JJ is a one-side-of-the-body only player and other clubs have now worked him out.

 

[Mattdougie]

Weak as piss these boards mate, I'd like to see these guys at games

No they entitled to their opinion as much as us but it's seems if you disagree with the party live here and your not one of the "click" you get pushed out

I just want one person to tell me why we are better that's all? No stats that can be used in anyway and I honestly can't see.

Wins means nothing to me as I've now Said 20 times

 

[Eastdog]

Same excuses every week, got any new ones?

I think injuries is a genuine excuse because when you don't have your top players on the park then obviously your going to struggle. That happens to teams who are expected to do well but don't because they are injury hit. Fremantle a few years back are a good example.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Read. What I'm writing moron it's not about wins

IMPROVEMENT!!

PROGRESSION!!

DEVELOPMENT!!

Stop attempting to be smart coz your failing

You simply disagree with me coz your completely one eyed and haven't made a single valid point yourself.

I disagree with you because you're wrong. In fact, it's not even a subjective topic.
We've improved in the last two years to be a benchmark for contested ball and stoppage work in the competition. Our ability to get the ball inside 50 is outstanding, whereas the conversion of those I50s is comfortably among the worst in the competition and the main focus of improvement, I should think.
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Smith, Griffen, Liberatore, Roughead, Hunter, Minson, Johannisen, Campbell. All have clearly improved markedly under McCartney, particularly towards the end of 2013.

Not one valid point out if you

Tipping you sit on your couch and don't even buy a membership and play keyboard hero here

You can't answer me coz there is no answer! We have not improved in one area

Completely out of line response. I'm answering what you have to say and you're insulting me personally and making out-of-line insinuations.
I've been a paid up member every year since I can remember. I've attended every home game for the last 5 years and plenty of away games. I'm not playing keyboard hero at all. I'm just stating my opinion and being critical of the fact your posting is limited to negativity towards Bulldogs players and people.

 

[BWFC]

I'm disappointed we lost today but I didn't think we were that bad. We were competitive against a better side for the vast majority of the game. I think we have a few players clearly underdone fitness wise and a few young blokes learning. I'm looking forward to next week and seeing the team have a crack at Richmond.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

I'm disappointed we lost today but I didn't think we were that bad. We were competitive against a better side for the vast majority of the game. I think we have a few players clearly underdone fitness wise and a few young blokes learning. I'm looking forward to next week and seeing the team have a crack at Richmond.

This is all sounding very familiar.

 

[Ant_]

I shall hold my opinion till later in the year. We need improve on the last two weeks efforts though for me to stay on the Macca bandwagon.

Held off on Gia way too long and after a sapping game from last week perhaps a running type would've suited being the sub. Griff looked under-done however can't fault the coach if the fitness staff said he was right to go.

We need some class off half back, hopefully Darley or Fuller can come on and lock down a spot.

 

[Mattdougie]

Amongst many elements of the first two weeks that were embarassing and to do with coaching/selection issues primarily:

What concerned me most about today's debacle was the apparent lack of a gameplan.

Crameri is still being played out of position. You don't go out to recruit a forward only to convert him into a midfielder, particularly when our forward line stinks as much as ours has thus far in 2014.

Griffen was brought back far too soon, was clearly underdone.

JJ is a one-side-of-the-body only player and other clubs have now worked him out.

FINALLY A SENSIBLE POST

I agree selection has been strange. Where Talia and why no Bontempelli this week when he was best on last week in VFL? Where's Wood and Wiliams gone?

Crameri is a very good 3rd forward so playing him as your main target is just plain stupid. Jones had a shocker and why on earth did he sub Stringer when he was our best forward?

What is the point of playing Gia at all?

What's happened to Wood he is useless and JJ is not a wingman

And anyone that's thinks Higgins is a backman should be immediately run out of football. I personally don't rate the bloke at all, he lazy and loose and simply not hard enough

 

[Mattdougie]

I disagree with you because you're wrong. In fact, it's not even a subjective topic.
We've improved in the last two years to be a benchmark for contested ball and stoppage work in the competition. Our ability to get the ball inside 50 is outstanding, whereas the conversion of those I50s is comfortably among the worst in the competition and the main focus of improvement, I should think.
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Smith, Griffen, Liberatore, Roughead, Hunter, Minson, Johannisen, Campbell. All have clearly improved markedly under McCartney, particularly towards the end of 2013.


And in the first 2 weeks we have been smashed in contested ball and clearances now that teams know that's all we have. You think JJ Campbell Cordy jones Howard Roberts roughed wood wallis have really improved???


Completely out of line response. I'm answering what you have to say and you're insulting me personally and making out-of-line insinuations.
I've been a paid up member every year since I can remember. I've attended every home game for the last 5 years and plenty of away games. I'm not playing keyboard hero at all. I'm just stating my opinion and being critical of the fact your posting is limited to negativity towards Bulldogs players and people.

And negativity to players ?? Where?

The coach is useless do yes I'm negative to him and

YOU came on here and responded to my post sarcastically I have no idea who u are so look back mate I didn't start you

 

[black pup]

I didn't realise how simple AFL football was, very interesting reading your crap.
Sack he coach, sack 15 players and then we go forward.
Sounds like you 2 have played a lot of football, and are very experienced.
Wasting your time posting on here, suggest you give us a bit of resume of your careers.
There is an AFL club out there that needs you, but the Bulldogs don't.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

What, and we're flying now? Take the blinkers off

Don't make me larf! You'll be hard pressed finding a picture of me drinking the Macca Kool-Aid.

Keep tilting at those windmills.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Am I the only one who thought the coach chose the wrong players for tags tonight?

Should have had Picken on Harvey, not Thomas
Should have had Wallis on Dal Santo, not Wells

 

[Mattdougie]

I disagree with you because you're wrong. In fact, it's not even a subjective topic.
We've improved in the last two years to be a benchmark for contested ball and stoppage work in the competition. Our ability to get the ball inside 50 is outstanding, whereas the conversion of those I50s is comfortably among the worst in the competition and the main focus of improvement, I should think.
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Smith, Griffen, Liberatore, Roughead, Hunter, Minson, Johannisen, Campbell. All have clearly improved markedly under McCartney, particularly towards the end of 2013.

You think Campbell Jones Cordy Roberts Howard Tutt Roughead JJ Wood Austin Jong Pearce Higgins Williams have improved under Macca??

You think that Griffen Mino Libba and McCrae just improved because of Macca and not coz they are genuine football players??

 

[Mattdougie]

I didn't realise how simple AFL football was, very interesting reading your crap.
Sack he coach, sack 15 players and then we go forward.
Sounds like you 2 have played a lot of football, and are very experienced.
Wasting your time posting on here, suggest you give us a bit of resume of your careers.
There is an AFL club out there that needs you, but the Bulldogs don't.

See this is all to have

When did anyone mention sacking players 15 players mate?

AFL clubs need people that are passionate enough about their club to stand up when it's needed not just boldly follow the path and slap each other on the back and agree coz it's easy.

I been a member longer than you been alive mate so don't tell me or anyone for that matter that they are not needed simply coz you disagree with them

 

[Golden Slumbers]

#StandByMacca

 

[Eastdog]

If you do want to sack Macca who in your opinion Mattdougie would be the man for the job. I think it's a balance between the coach and quality of players on the park. Maybe Macca is doing the right thing but our players aren't getting the message well.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Our contested footy was pretty good tonight against a more seasoned side. Fitness was an issue with some of the younger guys and some skill errors killed us. It's frustrating losing but there is progression. Macrae , Stringer , Libba , Jong all improving.

 

[VitalDread]

This thread i just can't.

 

[black pup]

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See this is all to have

When did anyone mention sacking players 15 players mate?

AFL clubs need people that are passionate enough about their club to stand up when it's needed not just boldly follow the path and slap each other on the back and agree coz it's easy.

I been a member longer than you been alive mate so don't tell me or anyone for that matter that they are not needed simply coz you disagree with them

Mate, go to bed son, you don't know who you are talking too, I suggest you have a look at Footscray VFL side before you start mouthing off.
AFL football is not as simple as you think, I know, do you.
DO YOU GET IT.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

So guys you disagree that's fine but I challenge you to tell me where we are better since he took over??

Anything??

Wow, did you even watch the game? We had 80% possession of the football in that first half, we locked it in our forward line, I would say that is huge improvement as under Rocket we had no defensive pressure in our forward line at all, the ball used to come out like it hit a trampoline, and that is just for starters. Where we let ourselves down badly was not converting our opportunities into goals. Our contested football was very good, but our side is a bit younger than Norths, whose players have a number of preseasons under their belt.

Listening to Boomer Harvey after the game, he was saying at half time a lot of his players were feeling very sore, and they will be sore next week, where i fully expect that they will lose. Even other North Melbourne supporters commented on our players work rate compared to their own.

But to get back to Boomer he commented repeatedly that they knew if they kept chipping away at us, the trip to WA last week and playing in the heat would eventually take it's toll. WE were in that game up until half way through the last quarter when they got on top.

You comment that North Melbourne are rubbish, but North has players who have been around a lot longer than McCrae, Stringer, Jong and even Stevens, so I think your comment is wrong, they are expected to make the finals this year, after losing many games last year under 10 points.

Some of the mistakes we made were typical mistakes made by second year players ie JJ and Ling Jong, they can be easily corrected.

Finally take a look at Melbourne playing West Coast, not away, not in 35 degree heat, and they had only one goal going into the fourth quarter.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Be


Been a member over 30 years mate and am as entitled to an opinion as you are

So why shouldn't he go? Where has he improved us?

If you have been a member for 30 years, then can you remember how many years it took for us to make finals again from 2000 onwards?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Wasn't that what's at year was about??

How many bloody years of watching kids and making excuses do we have to endure mate??

I love our kids. McCrae, stringer, Libba, wallis, bontempelli and that's great but we don't have to be bloody awful while we watch them.

Geelong don't accept it why should we ??

Bomber Thompson nearly got the sack they waited that long for that team to come good, gee you do have a selective memory.

 

[Mattdougie]

If you have been a member for 30 years, then can you remember how many years it took for us to make finals again from 2000 onwards?

For the last time I do not in any way expect t finals mate this year or even next.

The simple fact is I think we have gone backwards and am stunned that so many here think we haven't BUT i accept that I pray you blokes are right about Macca but I do not see it