thomas beats saints

[SurreyBlue]

I thought Thomas was a StKilda person through and through and didn't want anything bad to become of his club. Oh well guess it proves he was always looking after no.1!

What happened to the "I'll go quitely when a coach is found" remarks, etc, etc ... the man is a germ but atleast he didn't go for the 10cents in the dollar deals the aints are renowed for.

The world is a wonderful place again.

 

[The Fireman]

I thought Thomas was a StKilda person through and through and didn't want anything bad to become of his club. Oh well guess it proves he was always looking after no.1!

What happened to the "I'll go quitely when a coach is found" remarks, etc, etc ... the man is a germ but atleast he didn't go for the 10cents in the dollar deals the aints are renowed for.

The world is a wonderful place again.

Your world is one of dishonesty but it doesn't seem to bother you, but that's ok, I guess it keeps the rest of us in check.
I'm sure GT is still a StKilda person and simply wants what was owed, good on him.

 

[JeffDunne]

Didn't take long for usual suspects.

I guess an ex-coach has never been in dispute with a club before over payments?

I'd say it was the norm rather than the exception.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Your world is one of dishonesty but it doesn't seem to bother you, but that's ok, I guess it keeps the rest of us in check.
I'm sure GT is still a StKilda person and simply wants what was owed, good on him.

I hope he gets everything thats coming to him

 

[Memories]

I believe we have had more than that sitting in an account waiting for this eventuation anyway.

Lets put it behind us and move forward.

Why not give him the money without going to court then? Obviously they were in the wrong and were trying to stop Thomas getting his money, what a joke.

 

[saintsownthedome]

More like 6 figures. Wouldn't get much change out of 200k by the time they pay their own plus Thomases costs. Both had silks involved. Will cost saints up to 500k by the time damages, costs and interest is added up.

Ummmm, no it wont.

Clearly you have no knowledge of the time this case took, nor the costs involved in hiring staff for this litigation.

 

[T-Pain]

Didn't take long for usual suspects.

I guess an ex-coach has never been in dispute with a club before over payments?

I'd say it was the norm rather than the exception.

there is a great irony that one of the first kooky new-age coaches in thomas has just dragged st kilda back into the past then.

 

[St DAC]

Are you the clubs Financial Controller? Has it been reported in their P&L.
How do you know this?

OK, you got me. I was hoping to keep it quiet, but you were just too slick ...

I can read a budget, as distributed to the members, of which I am one.

 

[St DAC]

Why not give him the money without going to court then? Obviously they were in the wrong and were trying to stop Thomas getting his money, what a joke.

Ahh, the peanut gallery weighs in. Obviously you have inner-circle knowledge ...

The club made him several offers to settle out of court, he refused, it ended up in court. Happens everyday between disputing parties.

Not even mildly amusing.

 

[morgoth]

Didn't take long for usual suspects.

I guess an ex-coach has never been in dispute with a club before over payments?

I'd say it was the norm rather than the exception.

Just a bit of fun really. I suspect this was as much about Archies ego as anything else. Most other clubs would not have ended up in court but Archie seems to be a bit precious.

 

[JeffDunne]

Most other clubs would not have ended up in court but Archie seems to be a bit precious.

I think you're being kind.

In fairness to Archie, he didn't create this mess.

He just added to it.

 

[JeffDunne]

I think it's also pretty safe to say we can now see why GT was handling contract negotiations at St Kilda.

 

[Monkey King]

St Kilda stiffing someone out of money owed... nothing new here.

 

[Crow-mo]

No biggie. The payout was already budgeted for. Hopefully this will be the end of that little saga, and we can get back to trying to play some decent footy: next Friday night for a start!

you're kidding right?

you expected to lose? well if that was the case, you should have just paid the man. obviously you owed it to him, the court agreed, and your budgeted accoutns agree - why not just pay your bills and move on without the need for these distractions.

Lets face it, whilst I was no fan of GT's coaching at the time but since he left maybe we can put his achievements in better perspective.

why go through this at all?

 

[Crow-mo]

I'm sure GT is still a StKilda person and simply wants what was owed, good on him.

so why didn't you want to pay what you owed and had promised him?

 

[Crow-mo]

I think it's also pretty safe to say we can now see why GT was handling contract negotiations at St Kilda.

ok that made me laugh

 

[Snagboy]

Ummmm, no it wont.

Clearly you have no knowledge of the time this case took, nor the costs involved in hiring staff for this litigation.

Your right it will probably cost more: County Court costs are massive:
it will probably cost at least 700K & St. Kilda will pay the lot

Costs:

Before trial
5 or more Interlocutory applications : Silk both sides
At Trial
Silk ( i.e. QC or SC) : Both sides
Junior Barristers : Both sides
Solicitors attending trial : Both sides
Secretaries attending trial : Both sides

Preparation for Trial
Numerous meetings with Solicitors & Silk : Both Sides

Initiating proceedings & Preparing Defence
Solicitors Costs: Both sides

& INTEREST

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Sad thing for mine is that GT and RB used to be best mates.

 

[barkly st.]

Ummmm, no it wont.

Clearly you have no knowledge of the time this case took, nor the costs involved in hiring staff for this litigation.

Clearly you do, so give us a quote. Keep it at party-party and don't assume any offers to compromise. I assume you will know what this means as you are obviously in the know.

 

[Masten2McKinley]

care factor zero

you dont care that instead of payin ur playerts our paying to get better equipment ur paying a former coach

 

[JeffDunne]

Sad thing for mine is that GT and RB used to be best mates.

No, the sad thing is that a personal fued caused untold damage to a football club and self interest cost a club hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I personally couldn't give a stuff if they're mates or not.

FFS. "Sad"?

 

[Crow-mo]

Your right it will probably cost more: County Court costs are massive:
it will probably cost at least 700K & St. Kilda will pay the lot

Costs:

Before trial
5 or more Interlocutory applications : Silk both sides
At Trial
Silk ( i.e. QC or SC) : Both sides
Junior Barristers : Both sides
Solicitors attending trial : Both sides
Secretaries attending trial : Both sides

Preparation for Trial
Numerous meetings with Solicitors & Silk : Both Sides

Initiating proceedings & Preparing Defence
Solicitors Costs: Both sides

& INTEREST

sounds like someone does know what they're talking about

 

[St DAC]

you're kidding right?

you expected to lose? well if that was the case, you should have just paid the man

No, the club didn't expect to lose, but made provision for it in case they did. It's called prudent financial management.

I don't know the details of Thomas' contract, so can't comment on the merits or otherwise of his case. AFAIK the club's legal advise was that they would win. The verdict has been described as a "surprising" result in media reports.

All of which makes it sound like it's not a clear-cut issue.

 

[triplemac]

I can't understand why they didn't pay him annual leave the whole time he was there? Then tried to barter it away with the umpire abuse fine. How is that right, in a buisness or moral sense.

 

[JeffDunne]

Read the court ruling and it sounds pretty clear-cut.

Sounds to me like a judge who thought he was being insulted and having his time wasted with the legal defense put up by St Kilda. Sounds to me like he believed Thomas' account more than he did the clubs too.

Especially with the issue of the $100K. I can't believe the bloke who thought up and offered the agreement wasn't in court to defend the claim given that St Kilda were defending that there wasn't an agreement in the first place. I don't think the judge could believe it either. Rod Butterss is prepared to go on breakfast radio and makes all manner of accusations in regards to a broken agreement - 12 months later he isn't in court and the club are claiming there was no agreement.

If anyone was in any doubt that the decision to sack GT was personnally motivated this court case should put that to rest.