Werewolf Town of Salem WW VI (Game Over - Mafia and Jester win)

[Pie 4 Life]

How convoluted? The vig’s role isn’t convoluted at all mate. Don’t shoot unless you’re damn sure.

Weird posting from you.

I'm not talking about the Vig's role, I meant the "not killing on N1" for the other roles, or "only shoot N2 and N4". That type of thing.

 

[MWPP]

Let's be honest we're probably the two most likely to be hit targets (me because of last game, you because of being the GOAT) but at least I was very obviously protected.

I'm very obviously saying Ligma wasn't worth lynching yet. We learn nothing from a wasted day. If nothing popped up, we can lynch her, but so many so keen to jump on early meant it was a wasted day that moves one step closer to the Coven getting their powerful tool.

Eh I’m far from GOAT particularly in this format . I’ve never made it far enough or had the sort of unique enough roles to properly get my head around it , nor the knowledge others like others do from playing actual ToS.

I have no read on Mp as yet either so can’t say if saving him (which is one consequence that lynching Ligma did) was worth it , but as town I’ll take a D1 arsonist lynch any day of the week.

 

[SaintBilly]

while I'm at it Barrybran dogs105 either of you want to be in the Dead PM at all?

 

[Greenery]

I don't think there were any missed kills other than maybe a Potion Master. Vigis can't shoot N1, Jailor can't execute, and no Necronomicon.

I was hoping coven got a kill n1 so I could Lynch you or tarks

 

[Headless]

Yeah fair, I forgot how convoluted these things are. Still, with so many inexperienced players I wouldn't be surprised to see someone fire off a shot on N1 as the Vig.

Still, seems a waste of a lynch.

I did consider it.

 

[Headless]

I was hoping coven got a kill n1 so I could Lynch you or tarks

I did consider it.

 

[Headless]

lol, she actually claimed arsonist?

I did consider it.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I'm not talking about the Vig's role, I meant the "not killing on N1" for the other roles, or "only shoot N2 and N4". That type of thing.

“…Still, with so many inexperienced players I wouldn't be surprised to see someone fire off a shot on N1 as the Vig.”

Not how your post reads, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Multiple people now have implied the vig should be taking early shots with little to no information. That is a strategy that is most likely to favour evil and neutral, but those making those suggestions need to be scrutinised, especially with a fewer newer players in the mix that might not have played this variant before.

 

[Greenery]

I did consider it.

Yes, serial shared with us that alpha he has as a veteran game mod.
You figured it out yourself!!!

 

[NinjaSwan]

There is generally a mechanic that does allow the Coven to kill N1, serial brings it up every damn game.

That they didn’t kill is either indicative that the Coven don’t have members aware of the possibility, their role distribution is different (though I’m pretty sure the required combination is Coven Leader + Medusa which I think are staples, I’d have to check) or a wily serial knowingly didn’t take advantage of that opportunity so that he could use it as evidence that he isn’t Coven.

Oh yeah there are technically ways but both that or the potion master using the kill are like very bad usage of their limited opportunities given you have no knowledge n1.

 

[Greenery]

DAY 1 LYNCH VOTE TALLY

Ligma	16
MWPP	1
Greenery	1

There are 31 players remaining, so 16 votes required for a lynch.
As per post 820 a majority was reached.

Night 2 phase is now until Monday 7PM (5 hours)
Day 3 phase is Monday 7PM-12AM (5 hours)
Night actions may be placed in advance.

Ligma (Arsonist) lynched by village

LAST WILL
OMG LAST WILL

I love you two sexy campaigners

N1 doused MP - I don’t even know what happened I think I was supposed to get some info saying if it was successful but this is a ****ed game I hate everyone

1 night until the Coven has the Necronomicon.

Greenery
NinjaSwan
Pickitt
NaturalDisaster
boncer34
Dingster
sante
MC Bad Genius
Bluelegs
Pie 4 Life
Jack The Godfather
jmoo wan
omgfridge
Headless
Grand Uncle Horace
serial_thrilla
Hatchy1992
3KZ is Football
Smeg Head
eth-dog
BEaston
hotchilli
Robertio
ZergMinion
Tarkyn_24
DERO
MP_
MWPP
croweater 41

Wen deadline

 

[boncer34]

Yo people. Protect me.

 

[jmoo wan]

DAY 1 LYNCH VOTE TALLY

Ligma	16
MWPP	1
Greenery	1

There are 31 players remaining, so 16 votes required for a lynch.
As per post 820 a majority was reached.

Night 2 phase is now until Monday 7PM (5 hours)
Day 3 phase is Monday 7PM-12AM (5 hours)
Night actions may be placed in advance.

Ligma (Arsonist) lynched by village

LAST WILL
OMG LAST WILL

I love you two sexy campaigners

N1 doused MP - I don’t even know what happened I think I was supposed to get some info saying if it was successful but this is a ****ed game I hate everyone

1 night until the Coven has the Necronomicon.

Greenery
NinjaSwan
Pickitt
NaturalDisaster
boncer34
Dingster
sante
MC Bad Genius
Bluelegs
Pie 4 Life
Jack The Godfather
jmoo wan
omgfridge
Headless
Grand Uncle Horace
serial_thrilla
Hatchy1992
3KZ is Football
Smeg Head
eth-dog
BEaston
hotchilli
Robertio
ZergMinion
Tarkyn_24
DERO
MP_
MWPP
croweater 41

unjust. i hope they don’t boot her from the arsonist PM!

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Oh yeah there are technically ways but both that or the potion master using the kill are like very bad usage of their limited opportunities given you have no knowledge n1.

The biggest risk is the risk of misdirection of a kill back onto a faction member, but I’d suggest outside of that the Coven wouldn’t be discriminative about who they target and why. Either way, point taken.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

“…Still, with so many inexperienced players I wouldn't be surprised to see someone fire off a shot on N1 as the Vig.”

Not how your post reads, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Multiple people now have implied the vig should be taking early shots with little to no information. That is a strategy that is most likely to favour evil and neutral, but those making those suggestions need to be scrutinised, especially with a fewer newer players in the mix that might not have played this variant before.

"Also none of the neutral killing roles except for SK can kill on N1" - NinjaSwan was the the main part I was addressing.

Regardless, clearly the game has a lot more mechanics that otherwise we would normally not consider, no? I'll be the first to admit it's probably not the best to be trying to get a read on the game early when you're driving four hours and only checking in between pitstops, but still.

I had missed Ligma's claim of the arsonist when I went off on this tangent, but now I'm too deep I'm just sticking with the angle I had which was she wasn't worth lynching because there are bigger fish to fry.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I was hoping coven got a kill n1 so I could Lynch you or tarks

Don’t forget thewizardmelon

 

[Tarkyn_24]

"Also none of the neutral killing roles except for SK can kill on N1" - NinjaSwan was the the main part I was addressing.

Regardless, clearly the game has a lot more mechanics that otherwise we would normally not consider, no? I'll be the first to admit it's probably not the best to be trying to get a read on the game early when you're driving four hours and only checking in between pitstops, but still.

I had missed Ligma's claim of the arsonist when I went off on this tangent, but now I'm too deep I'm just sticking with the angle I had which was she wasn't worth lynching because there are bigger fish to fry.

And what fish might you be frying and why?

 

[Greenery]

Don’t forget thewizardmelon

Always happy to lynch the game mod

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Always happy to lynch the game mod

Oh, I thought he was my teammate again.

 

[NinjaSwan]

The biggest risk is the risk of misdirection of a kill back onto a faction member, but I’d suggest outside of that the Coven wouldn’t be discriminative about who they target and why. Either way, point taken.

I guess it depends who the Medusa is, if it's someone like MWPP who would get targeted anyway it makes sense to use one of your stone gazes early but otherwise given you only have 3 they become a lot more valuable later on.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I guess it depends who the Medusa is, if it's someone like MWPP who would get targeted anyway it makes sense to use one of your stone gazes early but otherwise given you only have 3 they become a lot more valuable later on.

You don’t actually buy MWPP’s sob story narrative about how she’s always targeted?

 

[Barrybran]

while I'm at it Barrybran dogs105 either of you want to be in the Dead PM at all?

Nah

 

[NinjaSwan]

You don’t actually buy MWPP’s sob story narrative about how she’s always targeted?

No I don't mean actual killing roles targeting her, just that I imagine with so many non-killing targeting roles (investigative/support roles/evil secondary actions) in this game she'd be a prime target for those.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

No I don't mean actual killing roles targeting her, just that I imagine with so many non-killing targeting roles (investigative/support roles/evil secondary actions) in this game she'd be a prime target for those.

Yeah okay that I’ll concede. We are talking a very specific hypothetical from only one player’s perspective though.

 

[Dingster]

Dingster very sus you haven't responded to me.

Soz my minty friend. I most definitely am not suss. Thanks for asking.