List Mgmt. Trade and F/A 2020 Cont’d

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Fair but I would say it’s unlikely any of them become the sort of mid that allows JDG to ply his trade on the forward line without our midfield being severely impacted. Both Treloar and Stephenson going forward are those sort of mids. Bottom line we just don’t have the internal talent to cover what we have traded out. We needed it for cap reasons but it leaves us compromised

Agree - and poor returns for those players further impedes our ability to find several High quality replacements in the draft.
We can only hope there’s a Daicosesque level of improvement afoot with some of our kids.
 

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Rumour I'm hearing.


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May I ask some of you more learned folk than me, Ruscoe was drafted from memory as a defender. Can he play a role for us down back in 2021 & beyond and if so, who would he be freeing up?

He was drafted as a utility. I thought he showed enough in the forward line. He will get more opportunity now with the exit of Stephenson.

We still have Howe to come back this year. He could play in defence and allow Maynard to run through the midfield.

I don’t think we are lacking small / medium defenders. We still have Bianco & Murphy who didn’t play last year.

Langdon is a possibility too. Not sure about his current status.

This year = 2021.
Last year = 2020.

I’ve moved on from this trash year already.
 
May I ask some of you more learned folk than me, Ruscoe was drafted from memory as a defender. Can he play a role for us down back in 2021 & beyond and if so, who would he be freeing up?
Was drafted as a utility. Trained with the defenders early on, but in a scratch match before they went into the hub, they moved him forward. And thats where he has stayed.
He can play back. forward. mid. wing
 
I have a feeling that Norf will go for the safe option and take Phillips with 2, I believe Hollands is the best player in this draft but he comes with a knee issue so Norf wouldn't risk that. Mcdonald will go to Adelaide and Norf probably won't risk Thilthorpe either. We could get Thilthorpe with or 4 maybe, even DGB

I hope North do everyone a solid and bid on Campbell at 2.
 
You can't read emotions from behind a keyboard, I'm not trying to argue with you - just pointing out the differences in those two competitions. One is much much more ruthless than the other. That is clear. Nothing superficial about it at all.

I do agree we won't agree because you don't want to acknowledge the sh*tty position the club is in. Simple as that.

Moving on, I hope you and your denial minority are happy with the current situation, seems you are.

CB out.

Your kidding yourself if you don’t think the Olympics is ruthless.
 
EFA, this competition is ruthless and is nothing like the Olympics in it's competitiveness. The games are all about inclusiveness of your competitors this football competition is about being better than your competitors.

What? Bloody odd comment.
 

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You’re suggesting we’re going to package one of 14 or 16 with our 2021 first to move up?

Where does your confidence on this stem from?
This is a real possibility, they really rate this draft and have alluded to moving as high as we can in this draft particularly.
plus the fact a bid in the first round will definitely come for Nick Daicos next year it makes it a no brainer in my opinion also.
 
I think that he’s come to the realisation that he’s not going to ever become that big $$ player he assumed he was already unless he actually puts in the work. The embarrassment of shopping himself around and having no takers was probably the wake up call he needed.
Get him fit and in the middle next year, Jordan’s impact on the ball is better than anyone on the team bar Pendlebury. 80% midfield 20% forward would be the best option. We need to get back to that rotation system and surprise element in our attacking 50.
 
The 5 players you highlight as our hopes for the future all have question marks over them due to their non-selection, mediocre senior appearances last year or application and attitude. You are investing a lot of hope in players who were overlooked or uninspiring in 2020.

Do you think the ruthlessness albeit due to cap pressure will be a wake up call last chance moment for some on the list
 
This is a real possibility, they really rate this draft and have alluded to moving as high as we can in this draft particularly.
plus the fact a bid in the first round will definitely come for Nick Daicos next year it makes it a no brainer in my opinion also.
Couldn’t really rate it be in volume also so a higher number of picks
 
Players been Crap at Demons come good with us.

Look at Dunn and Howe
Dunn wasn’t crap and Howe had a role change here that allowed him to become good, McDonald isn’t switching positions.
 
If it’s not O McDonald then we need another experienced fullback. Signing J Frawley or Daw to a 1 year deal would suffice.

Only have Roughead, Moore and Keane in that position. And with even fewer marking targets inside 50 than last year it would make sense to have the option of throwing Moore forward... rather than having him locked into the back line because Roughead has gone down.
 
I doubt our list management team can afford to take the risk of going all-in on a play for pick 2 that involves us giving up this year’s two first rounders and next year’s.

Imagine if we did and the player selected turned out to be a McCartin/Hogan-like flop? That would be disastrous and too high a risk after our horrific trade period.

I think the idea of swapping next year’s first for pick 15, so we end up with picks 14, 15, 16, Reef McInnes and then Nick Daicos next year, is a much lower risk play than opting for pick 2, McInnes & Daicos.

(It was smart of us to arrange for Reef to run a really bad 2km time trial at the pre-draft testing in an effort to ensure that he’s not taken in the first 13 picks! )


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I doubt our list management team can afford to take the risk of going all-in on a play for pick 2 that involves us giving up this year’s two first rounders and next year’s.

Imagine if we did and the player selected turned out to be a McCartin/Hogan-like flop? That would be disastrous and too high a risk after our horrific trade period.

I think the idea of swapping next year’s first for pick 15, so we end up with picks 14, 15, 16, Reef McInnes and then Nick Daicos next year, is a much lower risk play than opting for pick 2, McInnes & Daicos.

(It was smart of us to arrange for Reef to run a really bad 2km time trial at the pre-draft testing in an effort to ensure that he’s not taken in the first 13 picks! )


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Tend to agree. We need to take the Logan McDonald goggles off and try and draft 4 first round quality players this year. Well get him in 2 years when hes matured a bit anyway. ;)
 
I doubt our list management team can afford to take the risk of going all-in on a play for pick 2 that involves us giving up this year’s two first rounders and next year’s.

Imagine if we did and the player selected turned out to be a McCartin/Hogan-like flop? That would be disastrous and too high a risk after our horrific trade period.

I think the idea of swapping next year’s first for pick 15, so we end up with picks 14, 15, 16, Reef McInnes and then Nick Daicos next year, is a much lower risk play than opting for pick 2, McInnes & Daicos.

(It was smart of us to arrange for Reef to run a really bad 2km time trial at the pre-draft testing in an effort to ensure that he’s not taken in the first 13 picks! )


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Taking 3 players plus Reef isn’t a bad idea. Even taking 3, Reef plus a late pick Hine special works for me.

Even with smaller list sizes we have lost 9 players... and there’s room to still delist obvious candidates in Wills and Lynch.

So taking 4-5 in the draft and a DFA to fill a need like KPD depth is feasible and could really freshen up the list
 
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