Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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He’s not going to help one on one but Darcy geat least looks like he can naturally read the play whilst Gardner & OBrien have half a football brain between them. I think he can find himself in the right positions to chop off a few entries and provide a decent contest aerially - I think we see how he goes in place of O’Brien in the next few weeks
Think De Koning from Geelong with Sam Darcy, but will end up better.
 

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Note the spruiking of Rory Lobb's trade value on the AFL website: Stay or go: Career-best year lifts Docker's value sky high

If this keeps up, Freo will be asking for the Bont and our first rounder.
 
I think it’s appropriate to look at what English was doing when he was at a similar games played to what Jackson is now (compare English 2019 season to Jackson this year). The stats are quite similar except English had more hit outs which you’d expect for a number one ruck.

The interesting thing is English pretty much equals him in all the areas you’d expect Jackson to benefit from being a second ruck (disposals, marks, goals etc).

Jackson could very well be a better player in the long run but suggestions he’s ahead of where English was at the same stage of their careers is laughable. Even more so when you consider English was battered from piller to post for his first 50 games.
It depends how you look at the stats. The key factor is age. When Tim turned 21 he had played 9 games and kicked 1 goal. Jackson is yet to turn 21 and had played 43 games and kicked 27 goals.

I've always been a supporter of Tim's when others were slagging him. The point is that you've got to be patient with 200cm+ players. What Jackson has achieved at 20 years old is most impressive.
 
How about Highmore from St Kilda? Not your monster defender but I thought he looked good amongst the rabble that was St. Kilda last year. Not sure why he isn’t getting a regular game this year.

Agree he looked decent, but he’ll be easy best 22 with Howard going down
 

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Why did we re sign Hannan?
The answer given on here at the time was that the whole list can’t be A-graders. I would contend there are many acceptable gradations between Hannan quality and A-grade.

I also have no idea why we needed to make the call in July before he’d proven capable of returning.
 
The changes we need to make can't all be done in one off season.

Once we have the list we want it will take some years to gel together.

I am not hopeful of a quick turn around. Our whole backline and most of our forward line needs rebuilding imo.
 
What I would do with the uncontracted players:

Keep:
Bailey Smith
Rhylee West
Riley Garcia
Cody Raak (Cat B)
Charlie Parker (R)

Keep depending on:
Toby McLean (no more injuries this season)
Jason Johannisen (massive pay cut)
Josh Dunkley (wants to stay)

Delist/Trade
Josh Schache
Zaine Cordy
Louis Butler
Robbie McComb (R)

Retire:
Stefan Martin
Mitch Wallis
Taylor Duryea

That’s anywhere from 6-9 senior list spots.

Contracted guys if an offer came for either crozier or sweet they can go.
 
What I would do with the uncontracted players:

Keep:
Bailey Smith
Rhylee West
Riley Garcia
Cody Raak (Cat B)
Charlie Parker (R)

Keep depending on:
Toby McLean (no more injuries this season)
Jason Johannisen (massive pay cut)
Josh Dunkley (wants to stay)

Delist/Trade
Josh Schache
Zaine Cordy
Louis Butler
Robbie McComb (R)

Retire:
Stefan Martin
Mitch Wallis
Taylor Duryea

That’s anywhere from 6-9 senior list spots.

Contracted guys if an offer came for either crozier or sweet they can go.
We don't want to do a norf and gut the list without bringing anyone in imo.

But I'm just an armchair critic.
 
The changes we need to make can't all be done in one off season.

Once we have the list we want it will take some years to gel together.

I am not hopeful of a quick turn around. Our whole backline and most of our forward line needs rebuilding imo.
I don’t see why we can’t do a Melbourne/west coast style dip and straight back up there, there issue being they had a terrible year and got a top 3-4 pick before bouncing back.

Backline needs work massively. Richards, Dale, Cleary, Williams offer us something there.
Keath looks cooked recently, Gardner is out if his depth and O’Brien was a bust, so we need key position players and a lock down defender in that backline. You can get away with one weak tall or lacking a lockdown small but not both.

So we need realistically 2 Kpds and a lock down small. Potentially get one KPD this off season and draft one.

Forwardline no where near as bad. We have Naughton, Bruce (to return).
JUH and Darcy developing that’s the tall stock there. Weightman was having a good year pre-elbow injury.
We lack a high speed pressure small. Add that and

F: Pressure Small Bruce JUH
HF: Weightman Naughton resting mid

Is a decent forward line.

Midfield is alright probably lacking a second wingmen with speed.

Ruck is okay for number one but second ruck and depth rucks is an issue. Second ruck may get solved when Darcy develops but could be a couple of years or could be solved if lobb comes.
 
We don't want to do a norf and gut the list without bringing anyone in imo.

But I'm just an armchair critic.
True we don’t want to but of the 6-9 that would go.

Martin is already gone
Wallis has been on the outer for 2 years
Butler isn’t up to it
Duryea has missed big chunks with
injury
Cordy and scahche are absolute depth at best and liabilities

We obviously can’t just go to the draft to replace these guys, we need a combination of trading in and drafting.

If Dunkley and JJ want out then need ti be aggressive with what we get for them and trade in.
 
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