Moeydw
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We should have delisted Sier and maybe picked him up as a rookie
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How many 1st rounders did they give away to get em in?
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The same number we give for Mayne and Wells. Applying the Kappa logic we nailed those deals.
Unfortunately there's two elements to picking up a player and you've ignored one of them.
Port has also lost Trengove and Impey. Impey was a top 20 pick a few years ago and Trengove is a decent swingman.
Trengove will be a significant loss. I don't particuarly rate Impey but he might come on a lot next season.
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20 goal assists that's laughable. He will play half a season at most can't see him managing anymore than 8-12 goals
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I believe he's basing his output predictions on him playing a full season, Captain Negative
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Yeah we all know your opinion
But I asked you a question in good faith
Your expectation is low I take it
WHAT'S THE PASS MARK FOR YOU
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Not at all.
We're still talking very large sums of money, and unlike some sports we have strict (-ish) salary caps and no billionaire owners funding fiscal irresponsibility.
I absolutely want our club to do due diligence on any financial decision, particularly when we're talking 6-7 figures. (Or potentially 8 in the case of someone like Lynch)
We have $10m (soon 12?) to "play" with each year. I want the club to get the absolute most that they can out of that salary cap and with our resources available for trade/use (players/picks). That means being professional and measured about our spending - not rushing things through just for the sake of making it exciting for fans.
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Lol his a cat b rookie just to top it off...
Sier re signed
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I wish something would hurry up and happen
Have to Wait to Thursday I say Murray done in the Final Hour
You asked for my expectation and that is it. I don't have a statistical pass mark for him. He is not a forward and it hurts us when he plays there. For him to get a pass mark he has to learn how to play forward and not be dead wood that fills the leading lanes and gets in everyone's way.
If the club is trying to get Lynch they obviously don't see him as the answer either as there is no way he would play if we had Lynch baring injury
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Without going over this all again, we did a lot more last off season than just recruit Mayne and Wells, which seem to be the only deals that get brought up on review. WHE has been a solid pick up, Dunn was a steal and we still brought in 4 kids who project as best 22 through the draft despite not having a first round pick.
As for Port, this period could be the making of them. It also has shades of Brisbane circa 2009, where a team makes finals, overestimates where it's list is at and mortgages it's future.
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Grades done by the Richmond Media Mafia
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Sier lucky and Had to Re-Sign Lynch as we got rid of our KPP Depth
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The club simply won't admit that Sier isn't up to it and never will be.
At best, at absolute best, with luck with injury and proper player development Brayden Sier will be as good as Rupert Wills.
Staggering that we are wasting a list spot on this dud for a third season in a row.
Admit the mistake, he should never have been drafted, let alone at pick 32, and move on.
Max Lynch I understand though, he was number one ruck in the VFL for a few games last year and held his own. High hopes for him, even if like most ruckman he will take a long time to show his full potential.
At best, at absolute best, with luck with injury and proper player development Brayden Sier will be as good as Rupert Wills.
Staggering that we are wasting a list spot on this dud for a third season in a row.
Admit the mistake, he should never have been drafted, let alone at pick 32, and move on.
Max Lynch I understand though, he was number one ruck in the VFL for a few games last year and held his own. High hopes for him, even if like most ruckman he will take a long time to show his full potential.
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We have a few of Players on the List like Sier who are just NOT good Enough
And what have we given up compared to us? Howe has improved but his value wasn't that high when we got him
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Not really. A 2017 bogey side. Flat track bullies whereas we gave top 8 sides a nudge.
In trying to think of a way we could land Schache relatively cheap perhaps we could get involved in the Cameron trade.
Brisbane apparently don't want to give up pick 12 and Adelaide don't feel pick 18/20 is enough for Cameron.
Schache, pick 12 to Collingwood.
Pick 6, 20 to Adelaide.
Cameron, pick 10, 38, 54 to Brisbane.
Collingwood gain pick 12, Schache. Collingwood lose pick 6, 38.
Adelaide gain pick 6, 20. Adelaide lose pick 10, 54, Cameron.
Brisbane gain Cameron, pick 10, 38, 54. Brisbane lose Schache, pick 12, 20.
It's not perfect but....
Collingwood get Schache for a 3rd rounder and a 6 spot 1st round downgrade. Pick 12 best available or kpp defender like Balta.
Adelaide break even with slightly unders for Cameron when pick 54 is added in but do get a 4 spot 1st round upgrade.
Brisbane effectively swap Schache for Cameron and get a 2 spot 1st round upgrade. Pick 20 I'll admit is worth more points than 38 and 54 combined but they have retained pick 18 which could still be a live selection depending on when a bid comes for their academy player.
Brisbane apparently don't want to give up pick 12 and Adelaide don't feel pick 18/20 is enough for Cameron.
Schache, pick 12 to Collingwood.
Pick 6, 20 to Adelaide.
Cameron, pick 10, 38, 54 to Brisbane.
Collingwood gain pick 12, Schache. Collingwood lose pick 6, 38.
Adelaide gain pick 6, 20. Adelaide lose pick 10, 54, Cameron.
Brisbane gain Cameron, pick 10, 38, 54. Brisbane lose Schache, pick 12, 20.
It's not perfect but....
Collingwood get Schache for a 3rd rounder and a 6 spot 1st round downgrade. Pick 12 best available or kpp defender like Balta.
Adelaide break even with slightly unders for Cameron when pick 54 is added in but do get a 4 spot 1st round upgrade.
Brisbane effectively swap Schache for Cameron and get a 2 spot 1st round upgrade. Pick 20 I'll admit is worth more points than 38 and 54 combined but they have retained pick 18 which could still be a live selection depending on when a bid comes for their academy player.
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Must be a very shallow draft
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So looks like we have Forced the Swans to Upgrade Murray and then we are trying to work out a Deal. Though Harley made it sound it's NO Guarantee that would Happen
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2017-10-17/two-resign-as-pies-and-swans-speak
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2017-10-17/two-resign-as-pies-and-swans-speak
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How many senior list spots do we have at the moment? Two? Yet we have three fairly high draft picks and have to also take Tyler Brown as father son. Then there's Sam Murray and Stewart Crameri.
It doesn't add up
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Well I guess Ramsey be Traded or De-Listed and so Sinclair won't get a New Contract
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