List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency - Fred 11

What Picks Will Richmond Get For Baker Bolton & Rioli


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look at the list of Norm Smith medallists versus Brownlow medallists and Norm Smith medallists are far more credentialled in the AFL fraternity on what they have done

Brownlow medallists are more about money for TV networks and a fashion show and a break for players events wise
What does far more credentialed even mean?? I read that a lot Norm Smith medalists are even premiership winners too! Bobby Hill is certainly a much better player than Patrick Cripps
 

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What does far more credentialed even mean?? I read that a lot Norm Smith medalists are even premiership winners too! Bobby Hill is certainly a much better player than Patrick Cripps
Get with the programe mate...
It means having your free pass from 4 umpires to throw the footy...
Free pass to do 450 degree turns in possession of the footy then drop it cos ya made a fair attempt to dispose or ya never had enough time to dispose...
Free pass to push players in the back in a contest while not looking at the footy...
Free pass to milk free kicks while ducking and diving...
 
Richmond won trade week.

I have said my thoughts on Liam Baker , Shai Bolton and Dan Rioli being traded.

Liam baker was out of contract so not much could of been done.

Dont get wrong, I wont deny Shai Bolton is a good player. But my dockers paid way too much to get him. Richmond could of kept him for another season or 2. But that depends on what side of the coin you look at.

Dan Rioli was traded. Again like Bolton, you could of made a point of him staying for one more season. But richmond got picks 6 and 23. Had Rioli stayed for one more season, Suns could of made finals or contend for finals. Those 1st and 2nd rounder could of been mid 1st and mid 2nds like picks 10 and 28 or 13 and 31.

I wont be shocked if richmond uses pick 11 or 18 on draft night to trade for a future 1st.

I wont be suprised if pick 20 or 23 or 24 is traded for a 2025 2nd rounder.
* Richmond should have held out for #10 + #11 without using #14 - Fremantle 100% would have blinked they would not have left Bolton high and dry after committing to him with no other trades in the works. Blair left something on the table

*Richmond wont be trading for future 2nd round picks with 20 , 23 , 24 as all 3 picks are worth future 1st rounders
Eagles , Suns , NorF , Geelong , StKilda , Essendon , Brisbane have all mentioned they will be looking to get back into this draft and in no world do you give up a 1st rounder in a strong draft for a 2nd rounder in a weaker draft

Richmond will be looking to trade #23 & #24 for Future 1st rounders and will likely take 5/6 players this draft and upgrade 2 Rookie's
 
People said the same thing about when Freo traded in Harley Bennell at the end of 2015.
Dude Harley was off the rails and spent 2 days in melbourne with Richmond
Dusty took him out 1 night and the Richmond management asked his thoughts
" He is way too loose" was Dusty's response and not to mention the injury issue's with Bennell

To even compare Bennell to Bolton is ridiculous
 
Im a Feo supporter here with a trade suggestion of pick 20 for Brisbane's 2025 first rounder. You could tell Brisbane you are paying them the professional courtesy of saying you will bid on Ashcroft pick 1 and thats a ton of points meaning they will have to bring in points to get Marshal and Ashcroft from their current picks and they only have their first and an Essendon 3rd rounder in 2025. With the new bidding system even if the 1st is a late pick it looks like you could combine it with your second pick to get the earliest player requiring a bid as it looks like there will be some academy and father sons in the top 10.
 
Im a Feo supporter here with a trade suggestion of pick 20 for Brisbane's 2025 first rounder. You could tell Brisbane you are paying them the professional courtesy of saying you will bid on Ashcroft pick 1 and thats a ton of points meaning they will have to bring in points to get Marshal and Ashcroft from their current picks and they only have their first and an Essendon 3rd rounder in 2025. With the new bidding system even if the 1st is a late pick it looks like you could combine it with your second pick to get the earliest player requiring a bid as it looks like there will be some academy and father sons in the top 10.
There's not enough meat in that deal for a trade to be considered IMO, even their F1 for 23 is weak considering the depth of this draft.

We either hold our late picks given the quality or slide one or two of them back for 2nd round picks this year and F1's.

There's a reason the list management team has loaded up this year, it's going to take a very good deal for us to trade out and Brisbanes F1 wont cut it. They'd be lucky to get a mid/late 2nd rounder for it
 
Im a Feo supporter here with a trade suggestion of pick 20 for Brisbane's 2025 first rounder. You could tell Brisbane you are paying them the professional courtesy of saying you will bid on Ashcroft pick 1 and thats a ton of points meaning they will have to bring in points to get Marshal and Ashcroft from their current picks and they only have their first and an Essendon 3rd rounder in 2025. With the new bidding system even if the 1st is a late pick it looks like you could combine it with your second pick to get the earliest player requiring a bid as it looks like there will be some academy and father sons in the top 10.
You are the idiot that kept telling me i dont know how trades work when i TOLD YOU

  • #10 + #11 will be the trade for Shai Bolton
  • We will get more than just #6 for Rioli
  • Baker is worth a pick around #15

Look now the same idiot giving trade suggestions FMD

Guess what YOU DONT KNOW HOW TRADES WORK
 
Im a Feo supporter here with a trade suggestion of pick 20 for Brisbane's 2025 first rounder. You could tell Brisbane you are paying them the professional courtesy of saying you will bid on Ashcroft pick 1 and thats a ton of points meaning they will have to bring in points to get Marshal and Ashcroft from their current picks and they only have their first and an Essendon 3rd rounder in 2025. With the new bidding system even if the 1st is a late pick it looks like you could combine it with your second pick to get the earliest player requiring a bid as it looks like there will be some academy and father sons in the top 10.

You right bro? Also, don’t think they can trade their future first without a future second coming back.
 
Im a Feo supporter here with a trade suggestion of pick 20 for Brisbane's 2025 first rounder. You could tell Brisbane you are paying them the professional courtesy of saying you will bid on Ashcroft pick 1 and thats a ton of points meaning they will have to bring in points to get Marshal and Ashcroft from their current picks and they only have their first and an Essendon 3rd rounder in 2025. With the new bidding system even if the 1st is a late pick it looks like you could combine it with your second pick to get the earliest player requiring a bid as it looks like there will be some academy and father sons in the top 10.
If we wanted to be right campaigners we’d call out as no 1 pic
Ashcroft
Then lombard
Then kako
Then Sam Marshall
Then welsh from SA
Then lalor
 
If we wanted to be right campaigners we’d call out as no 1 pic
Ashcroft
Then lombard
Then kako
Then Sam Marshall
Then welsh from SA
Then lalor
Why bother bidding on any player

It does not benefit Richmond in any way and all it does is help teams with later picks come up the order
stuff them let them all get further down the order.

Specially the Kako bid , The later it comes the better and once he is taken the bombers will be looking to hand over their F1 for peanuts and we can take Bombers & Melbourne Future 1st rounders for #23 & #24
 

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Why bother bidding on any player

It does not benefit Richmond in any way and all it does is help teams with later picks come up the order
stuff them let them all get further down the order.

Specially the Kako bid , The later it comes the better and once he is taken the bombers will be looking to hand over their F1 for peanuts and we can take Bombers & Melbourne Future 1st rounders for #23 & #24
Absolutely
Who gives a toss if the AFL want the clubs to pay more fair value

The system is broken and clubs should make a stand by not bidding at all and force the afl to fix it properly

Sure the clubs who are fortune to have players available this year will get them on the cheap but it’s not like they wouldn’t of got them anyway
 
Absolutely
Who gives a toss if the AFL want the clubs to pay more fair value

The system is broken and clubs should make a stand by not bidding at all and force the afl to fix it properly

Sure the clubs who are fortune to have players available this year will get them on the cheap but it’s not like they wouldn’t of got them anyway

All Richmond should do is bid on the players where they rate them. And I am sure that is what they will do.
 
Richmond won trade week.

I have said my thoughts on Liam Baker , Shai Bolton and Dan Rioli being traded.

Liam baker was out of contract so not much could of been done.

Dont get wrong, I wont deny Shai Bolton is a good player. But my dockers paid way too much to get him. Richmond could of kept him for another season or 2. But that depends on what side of the coin you look at.

Dan Rioli was traded. Again like Bolton, you could of made a point of him staying for one more season. But richmond got picks 6 and 23. Had Rioli stayed for one more season, Suns could of made finals or contend for finals. Those 1st and 2nd rounder could of been mid 1st and mid 2nds like picks 10 and 28 or 13 and 31.

I wont be shocked if richmond uses pick 11 or 18 on draft night to trade for a future 1st.

I wont be suprised if pick 20 or 23 or 24 is traded for a 2025 2nd rounder.
There no way we trading 20,23 or 24 for 2025 2nd rounder. 😂
 
There no way we trading 20,23 or 24 for 2025 2nd rounder. 😂
depends....

Would you trade one of those 3 picks if North Melbourne offers up their 2025 2nd rounder if you are confident they will finish bottom 6?
 
depends....

Would you trade one of those 3 picks if North Melbourne offers up their 2025 2nd rounder if you are confident they will finish bottom 6?
Do you realise that if North finishes 6th then that 2nd round pick is 24?

There's definitely a problem with the logic program going on in your head and I'd highly recommend seeing a neurosurgeon to diagnose said issue.
 
Yeah I remember everyone saying trading for Bennell was a huge risk. Remember Dusty took him out clubbing? Rumour was Dusty said stay clear.
I think it was that Dusty went home and had a good night's sleep. Bennell crawled in at .. whatever time. Dusty got him loose and saw the real man. then said, 'now way, stay clear'.

And interesting side to the great man. the club trusted him to sort out someone with talent, but a loose lifestyle. And Dusty did a great job of that. Not something a club would let any old guy do.
 
depends....

Would you trade one of those 3 picks if North Melbourne offers up their 2025 2nd rounder if you are confident they will finish bottom 6?

Just something to keep in mind. This year's draft is super deep of quality. i.e. the top 35 all supposedly first round quality in a normal year. And 2024 doesn't have too many Academy or F/S picks.

Next year looks weaker (althoguhw e'll wait on that), and there are a heap of Academy or F/S picks.

So this year a mid 20's pick is a first round quality, next year it's likely to be in the 30's for weaker players. 2nd rounder next year might be really weakened in value. Even later 1st round picks might be worth a lot less.
 
People said the same thing about when Freo traded in Harley Bennell at the end of 2015.

Here is the list of players from 2024 who averaged 15+ touches, 2+ clearances and 1.5+ goals per game:

Rankine
Bolton

And Bolton did it for the bottom team, when it’s said he checked out halfway through the year.

Make no mistake, you’re getting an absolute superstar just hitting the peak of his powers. He will absolutely dominate for Freo and barring injury is a lock for AA.


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depends....

Would you trade one of those 3 picks if North Melbourne offers up their 2025 2nd rounder if you are confident they will finish bottom 6?

We wouldn’t do it even if confident North would be bottom. Next years draft is compromised to the wazoo with academy kids and this years draft is super deep.


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depends....

Would you trade one of those 3 picks if North Melbourne offers up their 2025 2nd rounder if you are confident they will finish bottom 6?
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Here is the list of players from 2024 who averaged 15+ touches, 2+ clearances and 1.5+ goals per game:

Rankine
Bolton

And Bolton did it for the bottom team, when it’s said he checked out halfway through the year.

Make no mistake, you’re getting an absolute superstar just hitting the peak of his powers. He will absolutely dominate for Freo and barring injury is a lock for AA.


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Potentially. Too inconsistent
 

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