Hot Topic Trade/Free Agency Talk 2021 edition

[SBYM]

Let’s not overthink this one, people.

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[CJMB]

Hang on… did I just read that people think we shouldn’t have made the call on Levi?

 

[Juddrockz]

It's time for Royal Blues to return with a bit of Oblah di, Oblah da.

He's gone underground?

 

[Beyond Blue]

if we hand over pick 25 as well as 6, Luke Sayers should frog march Nick Austin out the front door of Princes Parlk.

Regardless of the fact that is way overs for Cerra,it would mean our first pick in the draft is pick 64 in a year when there is only supposed to be around 50 players selected in the draft.. we probably get something in the 30s for SPS but still that is a horrendous draft hand, especially when we didn’t take a 1st rounder last year..

Nobody’s marching Austen out the door tomorrow for doing that deal as it’s based on what our list needs (ie top quality midfielders), a bit like how Adelaide gave up a kings ransom for Bryce Gibbs and Melbourne doing the same for Jake Lever.

Sadly for all the restless types on here we’ll need to judge any such deal in time to see if it ends up a spectacular success as it was in the case of Melbourne and Lever, or an outright failure as it was in the case of Adelaide and Gibbs.

 

[AB_Blue]

Pick 6 straight up is fair comparison for an OOC potentially good midfielder.

He’s not the finished product yet…..

If he wanted to go to Melbourne then pick 18 and change would be on the table from the Dees….

Pick 6 is a good deal for all concerned


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[BAZZMAN]

We are the 6th youngest side. Austin won't be frog marched anywhere

He will if he hands over 6 and 25 for cerra way overs

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Maybe thats overs but no where near as much as you’re making out. The point I’m making is that people who think it’s pick 6 plus meaningless steak knives will be disappointed.

It is as much about ensuring we have a pipeline of kids coming through, last year we took Carroll & Durdin, neither look close to making it and in 19 we took Kemp Philip & Ramsey, with only Kemp look like making it.. Honey off the rookie is a chance. if we don’t have a high pick this year then it could repeat the 13/14 drafts where excluding Cripps not one player went on to do anything… which was a huge factor in why we have ended up the disaster we are..

 

[Dysfunctional]

Port having a surplus of tall defender types will help us in our search in that area. Have heard at least one will be coming across (not Hartlett)

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

I wonder if Austin might be eyeing the Bulldogs pick 17?

They will be willing to trade to have something in reserve after matching Darcy bid.

If Cerra requires 6 plus something else hopefully that’s our future second (which could be around 30 with a good season).

Keep this year’s second plus whatever we get from SPS and try to crunch those picks into something better.

 

[Arr0w]

He will if he hands over 6 and 25 for cerra way overs

Actually he won't be frog marched anywhere

It will be 6 and exchanging of other picks in the Dockers favour

 

[LanceRomance]

Does trade period start today?

Gone are the days when I declare Shiel day, get thread banned on the Hawks board, hit refresh incessantly, and have trade radio playing all day. Or are they?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Ridiculous excuse. He would have signed for another year, if we offered one. He has been content do that in the past.

He'd have been content to sign for one year so that we could trade him for a pick in the 70s instead of getting no compensation for him as a DFA?

WGAF, I guess...

 

[Sheephead]

Pick 6 straight up is fair comparison for an OOC potentially good midfielder.

He’s not the finished product yet…..

If he wanted to go to Melbourne then pick 18 and change would be on the table from the Dees….

Pick 6 is a good deal for all concerned


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MEL first pick is 33. Just for correctness.

Could see us swapping 2nd rounders with FRE to seal this deal. Only 2 pick upgrade but that can mean a bit in the early 2nd round.

 

[branedotorg]

Port having a surplus of tall defender types will help us in our search in that area. Have heard at least one will be coming across (not Hartlett)

do they have a surplus?

Alir, cleury & leinart are all i can think of

 

[Revenant1965]

Sometimes the left side of the brain isn't connected to the right... Probably was in the recesses of my mind, but only 'realised' that if a club wants multiple late picks for a F/S pick etc, that means they must have vacancies on their list to match those picks. So some clubs may have unsigned players on draft night with all in agreement that they will be re-signed after draft night. Probably will feed a media narrative about unsigned players....

 

[james95]

do they have a surplus?

Alir, cleury & leinart are all i can think of

I’d say Jonas and McKenzie. I think Lienert is more a tall flanker, similar to Lukosius type in a way, not playing style, but has KPP height but strength and size etc don’t allow them to.

Jonas and Allir their first choice KPD’s, and they do play three of them a fair bit of the time be it Clurey or McKenzie. But I wouldn’t say there is a surplus.

There has been rumours of Clurey being told to explore his options, but his contract is also rumoured to be quite heavily backended and on 600k for the next two seasons.

 

[Arr0w]

do they have a surplus?

Alir, cleury & leinart are all i can think of

Lord and looking to add O'Brien and or Finlayson, both can play both ends

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Look at GH's stats every time he was given a gig in the guts.....

If not A grade, as close to as to not be worthy of discussion.

Yep the vibe from Swannies is that he was very good in the guts in their last few games this year

 

[Blue__Balls]

**** I love our social media team...

 

[AndyLucimitis]

fu** I love our social media team...

I must admit that one went over my head ??

 

[Blue__Balls]

I must admit that one went over my head ??

Pre-emptive reminder to the Facebook mob that the folks running the social media team aren't the ones making trades

 

[Uncle Fester]

I’d say Jonas and McKenzie. I think Lienert is more a tall flanker, similar to Lukosius type in a way, not playing style, but has KPP height but strength and size etc don’t allow them to.

Jonas and Allir their first choice KPD’s, and they do play three of them a fair bit of the time be it Clurey or McKenzie. But I wouldn’t say there is a surplus.

There has been rumours of Clurey being told to explore his options, but his contract is also rumoured to be quite heavily backended and on 600k for the next two seasons.

Port by Height...... - its not compelling

No	Name	Games	Age	Date of Birth	Height	Weight	Origin	Position
25​	Hayes, Sam	0​	22yr 3mth	9 Jun 1999	203cm​	93kg​	Eastern Ranges	Ruck
29​	Lycett, Scott	128​	29yr	26 Sep 1992	203cm​	98kg​	Port Magpies	Ruck
38​	Ladhams, Peter	32​	23yr 8mth	14 Jan 1998	202cm​	95kg​	Norwood	Forward Ruck
22​	Dixon, Charlie	177​	31yr	23 Sep 1990	200cm​	105kg​	Redland	Forward
4​	Marshall, Todd	54​	22yr 11mth	8 Oct 1998	198cm​	87kg​	Murray Bushrangers	Forward
21​	Aliir, Aliir	88​	27yr	5 Sep 1994	195cm​	97kg​	East Fremantle	Defender
40​	Lienert, Jarrod	23​	27yr 1mth	5 Aug 1994	195cm​	88kg​	Sturt Fc	Defender
30​	Lord, Ollie	0​	19yr 9mth	2 Jan 2002	195cm​	84kg​	Sandringham Dragons	Forward
17​	Clurey, Tom	110​	27yr 6mth	23 Mar 1994	193cm​	88kg​	Murray Bushrangers	Defender
50​	Goldsack, Tyson	165​	34yr 4mth	22 May 1987	193cm​	93kg​	Gippsland	Defender
48​	Pasini, Jake R	0​	20yr 7mth	6 Feb 2001	192cm​	81kg​	Swan Districts	Defender
3​	Burton, Ryan	95​	24yr 8mth	31 Jan 1997	191cm​	90kg​	North Adelaide	Defender
19​	Georgiades, Mitch	28​	20yr	28 Sep 2001	191cm​	78kg​	Subiaco	Forward
12​	McKenzie, Trent	139​	29yr 6mth	3 Apr 1992	191cm​	83kg​	Western Jets	Defender

 

[BigFrizz36]

It is as much about ensuring we have a pipeline of kids coming through, last year we took Carroll & Durdin, neither look close to making it and in 19 we took Kemp Philip & Ramsey, with only Kemp look like making it.. Honey off the rookie is a chance. if we don’t have a high pick this year then it could repeat the 13/14 drafts where excluding Cripps not one player went on to do anything… which was a huge factor in why we have ended up the disaster we are..

Might pay to have another look at Carroll, there's a lot to work with there. Durdin has some tricks and is a chance. Philp can play but needs a good injury run. Even Ramsay has indicated he might make it. Kemp can be anything.

Some players, particularly lower draft picks take a bit of time. Would expect to see some of the players that you are prepared to write off surprise you next season.

 

[ferrisb]

It's time for Royal Blues to return with a bit of Oblah di, Oblah da.

I really thought we were getting Clarkson.

Oh well, life goes on....

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Might pay to have another look at Carroll, there's a lot to work with there. Durdin has some tricks and is a chance. Philp can play but needs a good injury run. Even Ramsay has indicated he might make it. Kemp can be anything.

Some players, particularly lower draft picks take a bit of time. Would expect to see some of the players that you are prepared to write off surprise you next season.

Might be a bit to work with, however of the 59 players taken in last year draft 40 played senior games, 25 played 5 games, 16 played 10 games.. Yet we had Durdin play 2 and Honey 0. We were not a team challenging.. granted we had a coach trying to save his job but these guys were not banging down the door demanding selection. Our 2019 group of 3 players Philp, Kemp & Ramsey have played a combined 4 games.. None of these 6 players drafted in 19-20 can be banked as bonefide AFL level players.. This is an incredibly dangerous list management place to be, and one we have seen before.