Hot Topic Trade/Free Agency Talk 2021 edition

[Bokan]

Maybe how the club treated him in the last 6 games of his time with us.. but not on his whole career.

If SPS had of played the last handful of games we'd be talking about a player who was:
- a former pick #5;
- played close to a 100 games basically without missing a game (twenty games first season, every game in 2018 and 2019, missed one game in 2020)
- averaged 16 touches and 4 tackles a game over his career.

That's a better profile than a George Hewett, or a number of other players.

Teague really f’ed us with his treatment of Samo.

******* disappointing.

It's really not a better profile than Hewett

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[4flagsin5yrs]

They offered him a 2 year deal

We've offered 5 at $650k a year, right?

 

[thylacine60]

Its the Carlton tax, we are expected to pay more.. and receive less. We have become so conditioned to this many of our fans simply conform to it.

No they don't.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

It's really not a better profile than Hewett

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Given he's:

• a former Pick #5 (vs #32 for Hewett); and
• his record is basically the same as Hewetts (one less season and twenty or so less games, averages two less touches a game, same number of tackles per game)

Then, yes i'd say if it was ordinary trade math absent Samo being a Carlton player - then the media and other commentators would have Samo rated very highly and higher than Hewett

 

[The Great Ian]

Maybe how the club treated him in the last 6 games of his time with us.. but not on his whole career.

If SPS had of played the last handful of games we'd be talking about a player who was:
- a former pick #5;
- played close to a 100 games basically without missing a game (twenty games first season, every game in 2018 and 2019, missed one game in 2020)
- averaged 16 touches and 4 tackles a game over his career.

That's a better profile than a George Hewett, or a number of other players.

Teague really f’ed us with his treatment of Samo.

******* disappointing.

It’s hard to know what SPS thinks about his team mates and the club and it’s easy to imagine that in his eyes it’s untenable for him to stay.

What’s clear is Teague was very damaging in his 2+ yrs in charge which was just wasted.

Just need to get the best trade result possible from WC and move on.


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[mediumsizered]

Lewis Young wants to come to Carlton..anyone know anything about him ?

His highest disposal game of his career came against us in Round 17, 2017. This meets the criteria for us to recruit him.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Spot on, our best outcome is for Voss to be able to talk some sense back into Samo and have him believe in the club again.. He is also less likely to become a best 22 player at West Coast next year than he would Carlton..

I can see it happening. Easily.

Don't think Samo is desperate to leave, he's probably just feeling like he's a bit on the outer, and WC would have been in his manager's ear ever since he got drafted.

May come down to whether Voss sees a genuine need or starting position for him. Hard not to with his skill set, and I'd ay Voss will back himself in to get Samo playing a suitable role with a bit more intensity.

 

[reg_lower91]

I think the Lewis Young

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trade might be something like :
SPS to WC
Pick 29 to WB
Young to us

Essentially become SPS for Young

 

[The Great Ian]

The Lewis Young

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Lewis Young

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

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D

14.4

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K

8.2

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HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

thing is a risk that could go either way for us.
You just have to think he’s made of the right stuff if Voss and Austin want him on the list.


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[james95]

I think the Lewis Young trade might be something like :
SPS to WC
Pick 29 to WB
Young to us

Essentially become SPS for Young

Over valuing both SPS and Young massively here.
SPS to WC, Young to us and pick 52 to WB is a lot more feasible

 

[Virgin Dog]

I think the Lewis Young trade might be something like :
SPS to WC
Pick 29 to WB
Young to us

Essentially become SPS for Young

Hate to say it but this is obscene overs for Young. I think we'd be looking at a pick in the 50s realistically

 

[BIuebagger]

West Coast enquiring about Powell-Pepper. Trying to revamp their aging midfield with SPS and SPP.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I think the Lewis Young trade might be something like :
SPS to WC
Pick 29 to WB
Young to us

Essentially become SPS for Young

That's a whole lot of yuck.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Given he's:

• a former Pick #5 (vs #32 for Hewett); and
• his record is basically the same as Hewetts (one less season and twenty or so less games, averages two less touches a game, same number of tackles per game)

Then, yes i'd say if it was ordinary trade math absent Samo being a Carlton player - then the media and other commentators would have Samo rated very highly and higher than Hewett

sorry - but SPS has finished in the top 10 of the best and fairest once - 10th in 2019 - https://www.blueseum.org/Stat+Shot:+S+Petrevski-Seton

hewett has done it consistently (2nd in 2019, 7th in 2018, 5th in 2017)

im a fan of SPS, but Hewett is an upgrade

 

[FlowersByIrene]

sorry - but SPS has finished in the top 10 of the best and fairest once - 10th in 2019 - https://www.blueseum.org/Stat+Shot:+S+Petrevski-Seton

hewett has done it consistently (2nd in 2019, 7th in 2018, 5th in 2017)

im a fan of SPS, but Hewett is an upgrade

I agree entirely, but i'm saying - we should be wanting more from SPS than a nothing pick. Something inside #30 is the minimum and we could have been in a position to demand much more if Teague didn't **** him up.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Welcome Lewis Young, a tad concerning that a team very light on for tall defenders would let him go.

They didn't want to...

 

[james95]

I agree entirely, but i'm saying - we should be wanting more from SPS than a nothing pick. Something inside #30 is the minimum and we could have been in a position to demand much more if Teague didn't fu** him up.

If Teague didn’t **** him up we wouldn’t be demanding more anyway. There’d be more likelihood he’d be happier and settled at Carlton and not looking to move

 

[NavySteel]

Have we won the Continental Tyres Trade Period premiership yet?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I think the Lewis Young trade might be something like :
SPS to WC
Pick 29 to WB
Young to us

Essentially become SPS for Young

That's crazy Vossy mach2 if we do that...

Realistically though, we wont.

 

[DEliades]

Young will cost a token pick and add much needed depth. Onwards and upwards baggers

 

[NavySteel]

They offered him a 2 year deal

Hope we aren't offering a 4yr x $600k deal, well because.... Carlton.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Young will cost a token pick and add much needed depth. Onwards and upwards baggers

Is he an upgrade on Ben Silvagni or Macreadie?

 

[CJMB]

Is he an upgrade on Ben Silvagni or Macreadie?

That's not hard. He's played 24 games, so 15 more than Macreadie and 24 more than Ben.

Looks like his best game might have been against us in 2017 with 21 disposals & 9 marks, playing down back.

At 201cm he's a decent height, taller than Ben (195?) and Macreadie (198?), so that's going to help his chances of becoming a genuine key defender option down the track.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

He is a replacement for Marchbank who's far too unreliable. Should allow us some flexibility with what we do with Kemp.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

That's not hard. He's played 24 games, so 15 more than Macreadie and 24 more than Ben.

Looks like his best game might have been against us in 2017 with 21 disposals & 9 marks, playing down back.

At 201cm he's a decent height, taller than Ben (195?) and Macreadie (198?), so that's going to help his chances of becoming a genuine key defender option down the track.

Was being silly tbh.

Didn't realise he was 201cm. Originally was drafted as a forward....

Wish him well.