List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 5

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It’s not like pies lack leadership, they also do a lot of charity work like we do especially with children’s hospitals

He’s just a self indulgent muppett and that won’t change no matter what club he plays for
Yep, a "no dickheads" policy, means you don't recruit dickheads. I would have thought that it was in the name.
 
Pure Inside Mid - YES
Are we are in the hunt for Taranto. GWS are wasting him in the forward line. He can butcher it at times but he knows how to get the pill. Exactly what we need.
 
I was extremely vocal about not trading for Cerra last year due to giving up our 1st rounder (Gibcus) plus the $650k
Freo supporters kept telling us how good he was but i am yet to see the 'Class'

He is a nice player but not confident he will be more than just a nice player and i think we got a better version with pick #28 Sonsie

Toranto with our 1st this year would be great
Agreed. I was also extremely vocal about no picking up Cerra. Living in Freo and having seen pretty much every game he'd played either live or on tv (all WC and Dockers games FTA here) yes he's a nice competent footballer but so vanilla. Rarely wins hard footy, goes missing for chunks and isn't a game changer. Nice neat player. No desperation. For the $750k he reportedly received he's certainly no gun. Baker off the rookie list shows more imo. Cerra was a classic case of being overvalued because he was out of contract and from Vic. We dodged a bullet. Let him get his meaningless 25 padded stats a game and go nowhere. Like his new team.
 

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Dusty wasn't a poster player yet somehow our playing group and club as a whole turned him into a decent kid. Anyone can change given a second chance in one environment someone may thrive and just might be ours.
If you know anything about Dustin Martin it's that he was always a good kid. Just quiet and reserved. Sure his Dad was pretty rough. But Dusty certainly wasn't an arrogant flog of the JDG mould. Ever see Dusty posting the kind of nightclub garbage DeGoey posts, being charged with sexual assaults etc ?

Don't be fooled by the media trying to paint him as a bad boy and the tatts. Shocking comparison.

And before anyone goes all Plan B and brings up Sydney Stack (under our No Dickhead policy) under due diligence it was firmly established that Sydney was actually a great kid who had some very unfortunate circumstances growing up and was deemed worth a chance and simply deserving of an opportunity.

That's not part of our No Dickhead policy, that's simply identifying a diamond in the rough. And as I believe he will show, Sydney will end up being worth the investment.

Having said all that, I think JDG is a terrific player, much better in the midfield than I'd given him credit for. He was excellent this week against Melb at times. I'm sure Richmond would be doing their due diligence, but geez I still reckon he's a flog.
 
What is Paddy Dow going to give you that RCD isn’t?
Pace.

You might not like the answer but you asked the question - he's definitely faster than RCD regardless of how low that bar is.

That's why RCD could never make it under our game plan, he can't play the surge / pressure game.
 
Castagna, Aarts, could not get a game and Willie will still probably not get a game, thats how many are in front of him.

Without thinking, Bolton, Cumberland, Baker and MRJ and then there is more. Simply do not need another small forward especially when so deficient in other areas

Holy crap dude its ok to talk to yourself but when you start answering back its time to seek help!
 
Pace.

You might not like the answer but you asked the question - he's definitely faster than RCD regardless of how low that bar is.

That's why RCD could never make it under our game plan, he can't play the surge / pressure game.

I’m not sure that’s true, but regardless the point I was making was more around Paddy Dow isn’t a substantial upgrade (maybe not an upgrade at all) on RCD, so why should we go after him?
 
Paddy Dow is a very ordinary AFL whod become an RFC supporters whipping boy on the forums in no time at all.
 
Agreed. I was also extremely vocal about no picking up Cerra. Living in Freo and having seen pretty much every game he'd played either live or on tv (all WC and Dockers games FTA here) yes he's a nice competent footballer but so vanilla. Rarely wins hard footy, goes missing for chunks and isn't a game changer. Nice neat player. No desperation. For the $750k he reportedly received he's certainly no gun. Baker off the rookie list shows more imo. Cerra was a classic case of being overvalued because he was out of contract and from Vic. We dodged a bullet. Let him get his meaningless 25 padded stats a game and go nowhere. Like his new team.
Freo cleaned up there. Turned a top 5 stuff up into a pick 6 and sweeteners
 

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Paddy Dow is no good.

His brother also won't make it.
 
Carlton fans reckon they should trade Stocker to us for pick 19.

The same Stocker they "beat us to" by future trading.

The same Stocker that said Richmond told him they wouldn't pick him because he only runs one way.

Carlton fans are delivering in spades today.
 

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Carlton fans reckon they should trade Stocker to us for pick 19.

The same Stocker they "beat us to" by future trading.

The same Stocker that said Richmond told him they wouldn't pick him because he only runs one way.

Carlton fans are delivering in spades today.
Tell them we can swap them jake Aarts & Castagna for their spuds
 
If you know anything about Dustin Martin it's that he was always a good kid. Just quiet and reserved. Sure his Dad was pretty rough. But Dusty certainly wasn't an arrogant flog of the JDG mould. Ever see Dusty posting the kind of nightclub garbage DeGoey posts, being charged with sexual assaults etc ?

Don't be fooled by the media trying to paint him as a bad boy and the tatts. Shocking comparison.

And before anyone goes all Plan B and brings up Sydney Stack (under our No Dickhead policy) under due diligence it was firmly established that Sydney was actually a great kid who had some very unfortunate circumstances growing up and was deemed worth a chance and simply deserving of an opportunity.

That's not part of our No Dickhead policy, that's simply identifying a diamond in the rough. And as I believe he will show, Sydney will end up being worth the investment.

Having said all that, I think JDG is a terrific player, much better in the midfield than I'd given him credit for. He was excellent this week against Melb at times. I'm sure Richmond would be doing their due diligence, but geez I still reckon he's a flog.
Chopsticks missing training cause of drugs he's an angel? Come on how do we know degoey isn't a good guy just a bit silly? The crap in America he's mate did and he got all the blame cause of his name! The difference is we had a group like Cothcin Jack so on reasonable human beings that sorted him out degoye, on the other hand, had racists and other crap around him. Not saying his all up there far from it but everyone needs a second chance that's all.
 
Chopsticks missing training cause of drugs he's an angel? Come on how do we know degoey isn't a good guy just a bit silly? The crap in America he's mate did and he got all the blame cause of his name! The difference is we had a group like Cothcin Jack so on reasonable human beings that sorted him out degoye, on the other hand, had racists and other crap around him. Not saying his all up there far from it but everyone needs a second chance that's all.
He’s got a LOT of form though over the years. I’d take him if he didn’t cost much in cap room but you’d want to have clauses in any contract that gives us an out if he behaves true to that form
 
P.Dow - No
W.Rioli - No
De Goey - No

Pure Inside Mid - YES

dont need a goalkicking mid if we retain the GOAT
if he goes we then get 2 mids,1 who can drift fwd ?

De Goey, Dusty and Bolton rotating mid forward means we are always dangerous and they will be fresh as daisies. Taranto wants to be pure inside mid so we get him too. This is appealing to people who wanna win flags. De Goey has been shredding it recently.

There will not be a moment where the opposition isn’t shitting themselves.


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Forward line next year:
Dusty - Riewoldt - W. Rioli
Cumbo - Lynch - MRJ


Sexy.

With Clarke hopefully coming in to fill that HF/Mid Lambo role.
Bauer to eventually replace Jack if he stays on his current trajectory.
We need to find that Lynch replacement soon as its easy to forget he's getting on too.
Pass for me. Would rather back the kids than go for Willie Rioli, not that he isn't talented, but we need to back our kids in and let them develop.

A midfield/forward group of Bolton Sonsie & Clarke needs time to develop their chemistry and we still have the goat around for a while yet. Long term it's our best move.
 
Carlton fans reckon they should trade Stocker to us for pick 19.

The same Stocker they "beat us to" by future trading.

The same Stocker that said Richmond told him they wouldn't pick him because he only runs one way.

Carlton fans are delivering in spades today.
I’d prob take stocker before Dow , pick 35-40 would get it done
 
Pass for me. Would rather back the kids than go for Willie Rioli, not that he isn't talented, but we need to back our kids in and let them develop.

A midfield/forward group of Bolton Sonsie & Clarke needs time to develop their chemistry and we still have the goat around for a while yet. Long term it's our best move.
Plus West Coast would likely want our #19 for him which is a massive no no.
 
Dusty wasn't a poster player yet somehow our playing group and club as a whole turned him into a decent kid. Anyone can change given a second chance in one environment someone may thrive and just might be ours.
Unless there are some sexual assault allegations that we don't know about, I think you're being very unfair on Dustin Martin
 
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