List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 8
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They haven't even start to rise yet either. Look at Dawks as another example, it's definitely not the way to go. if our way works long term we'll never drop below either of them let alone WCE who are on another level again.
Yeah just imagine last year when JR8 was running around with a walking stick and Lynch can't get on the park and Miller is trying to suddenly work out how to be a key forward and we could have left Balta in the backline too and definitely not resulted in a MCL injury because Chol was playing key forward/ruck.
We definitely would have been better off if Chol stayed ... if only for the fact that we wouldn't have had to give Kosi a 3 year contract.
Anyway it is a mute point because we couldn't have found 3 million over 5 years ... which is the contract Chol is on, right?
With McIntosh & Pickett, they both stay with the understanding that they do so knowing they are not necessarily guaranteed games. Question is, in order to let them go as u call for, who is ready to take over 1 wing spot, let alone both? Until u can answer that they both stay!
Something like that but he left foremost to get a game , we would have had to get rid of jack or soldo to have retained chol
I don’t get the fascination on dispatching KMac and Marlion? Watch them live and see how hard they work closing down oppo outlets especially fat side. It is quite incredible. There is no one on our list that can do what they do. Be thankful they are still churning out more than adequate performances.
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2 of our more physical players as well.
Wait, so you're saying Richmond should have offered Chol a 4 year deal worth 1.8m with a trigger for a 5th.
And the subsequent deal of a 3rd round pick + a future 2nd which Hawthorn paid?
Because there exactly what we would have had to match or beat to entertain your scenario.
I know the Lynch and Balta injuries really suck but boy oh boy, we really go a bit loopy with our retrospective analysis of injuries.
Fwiw - I've always liked 2 phones but let's all take a deep breath.
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Well, there's no proof of that salary anywhere online so that's just speculation but even if it's true it's still a significantly less outlay than Chol.
Chol would've also cost a future 2nd and is 4 years older.
Overall, I'm still amazed this is of any concern to any Richmond supporter given Chol couldn't get a game for GCS all season.
I'd much rather our scenario of having two future 2nd round picks + Kosi (23) + Fawcett (18).
Kosi has been very bad so far but many people also wanted Dow delisted last week too.
Enjoy the ride and don't sweat the small staff because Chol vs Kosi don't get much smaller.
I think its best not to be naive.
We chased him and he knocked but a contract from his club to join Richmond
Average salary in the AFL is around $370k
You really believe its less than $400k then you should take your head out of the sand
Chol will most likely kick 40 goals this year
it might be small but it would be bloody handy to Richmond with where we are atm
Have you actually seen the 11 players that the Kangaroos cut that cemented them at the bottom of the ladder?
None of them were stars, a majority were proper plodders and I think maybe only two found themselves on new teams the next year
Their loss still damaged the Roos immensely. You have to have players in that age range with that amount of pre seasons under their belt for training and even for the VFL to help protect the young kids
It would be beyond foolish to gut that part of our list to ‘play the kids’
Sorry dude that was a tough read, but sort of get your point. I’m not a chol fan and I would suggest he doesn’t fit a lot of coaches plans. Sure he kicks the occasional small bag, but he is 50% uncompetitive. I would prefer a break even guy that has a crack, and I’m not saying Kosi is that.
You seem to be focusing on something I never denied and keep ignoring the other factors of the deal.
Like I said, trading for Chol wouldn't be in our top 30 issues right now - not sure why you're so obsessed with not matching Hawthorns trade of a future 2nd.
We have what hawthorn and north didn’t. Some talent who wants to leave who will give us good draft picks as well as most likely a lower ladder position. This is because we actually drafted talent in our prime years. This will soften the rebuild. We don’t want to lose them all but a Baker and Broad won’t sink the ship. What would be our draft hand here if we lost both (because they are building houses there).
Totally agree that there will be list changes but what I'm saying is for example should Baker and Graham (or Broad) seek to move clubs then we would need to retain Pickett, McIntosh and Prestia (I think Grimes is going to retire)
Now the names of who leaves and who stays will change with the circumstances of the end of season but what we can't do is lose a few senior players to retirement/trade/free agency and then go and delist another group of senior players as well
So the posts here outlining eight to ten changes to the list at the end of the year through trade and delistings are just silly. It'll gut the club and ruin us for years
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Don't we have to spend a certain percentage of the salary cap on players wages?
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Move on from Chol FFS.
The bloke could not run away from the ball fast enough.
As I have said many times previously...they erected a fence around the ground to keep Chol on the field.
Chol signed a 5 year 3 million contract to go to Gold Coast ... this is year 3. When King was injured he kicked over 40 goals ... when King wasn't he didn't play ...
For the Hawks averaging 1.7 goals (projects to 40) and an elite 3.3 tackles a game.
My point is if we had kept him both Balta and Miller could have continued to play back ... but we made the mistake of playing him in the AFL as a delisted free agent without a contract for the following year ... we are making the same mistake with Ben Miller right now ... he can walk at the end of the year too
Feck yeah...forgot about that!
100% agree. Both give us so much physicality and are also quite versatile in the positions they can play. Our young mids would be in a world of hurt if these two weren't in the team.
Some posters were anti Kosi from the start. Fair enough. I hardly ever saw him play, and I agree now he looks like a bust.
I think the club had been looking at fringe KPFs all year but they all re signed.
GWS trio of Himmelburg, Cadman and Riccardi all stayed.
At RFC Chol was mostly back up ruck depth which he was not great at.
Rarely played KPF. The final in 2020 he was rubbish as Lynch replacement and Jack never injured.
Chol was a King replacement worked well for a couple of years but no need anymore. He's a KPF at Hawthorn and played well yesterday.
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I mean the club wanted Chol to stay but were never going to offer him a deal length that Gold Coast did. I don't think even his most ardent supporters would have expected the club to do that
We got caught out by both Chol and CCJ requesting a move, there's no doubt of that but you can't foresee everything
We got caught out by both Chol and CCJ requesting a move, there's no doubt of that but you can't foresee everything
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He knocked back a 1 year base contract and took our 3, $ value could be the same per year, $250K
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