List Mgmt. Trade Targets / Rumours Part 2

[portly]

Not one like that. C4 told us yesterday about player managers hunting bigger deals for their clients even if they are contracted. And weeks before that he told us how this was going to play out.

Follow the money.

The trouble is Ford:-

1. C4 obviously has inside knowledge, and could therefore be saying what the club wants us to hear, sometimes at least.

2. An aspect I disliked about the Wingard trade was that our club/coaches were unable to work with a "different" individual. So they took the easy way out and moved him on. Is that the case here?

3. Kinkles crapped on about the club "wrapping its arms around him". I am assuming that Dougal didn't feel the love and then, like you and I, he looked out for himself.

4. Could this just be the club looking around for an individual to play his part in improving our trading position, like last year? It worked, well, and hopefully it does again here. But the player himself may not be happy about it, hence wanting a better deal. Which came first, Dougal getting the feeling/knowledge that he was out the door, or Dougal being mercenary? We won't know, and I doubt C4 knows.

I believe there are internal ructions in the club, including players. Koch told the players immediately after the last game that Ken would be the coach in 2020, a strange thing to do to me unless Ken wasn't everyone's flavour. This Dougal trade is very possibly some unrest playing out.

It isn't just "follow the money", though you are far more likely to be in the know than me.

 

[snozulu]

You mean their first year of 5?

After their 5th year of mediocrity and want a new contract.

 

[PAFC66]

You'd think Stkilda have won nothing in years



Oh yeah

 

[Coobk001]

Holy shit. What the **** is that

 

[PAFC66]

Holy shit. What the fu** is that

You think we are going bad than you see their fans excitement for a crippled recruit.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Me waiting to see what Jason Cripps has in store for us tomorrow:

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Jesus Christ.

Saints just won nuffie supporter lotto.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

You think we are going bad than you see their fans excitement for a crippled recruit.

50 plus years without a flag does weird shit to people.

 

[Coobk001]

Me waiting to see what Jason Cripps has in store for us tomorrow:

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Eenie, meenie, miney, mo

 

[PAFC66]

50 plus years without a flag does weird shit to people.

Imagine this board in 10 years when we are still floating mid table finishes.

 

[PepeSilvia]

Its almost like we have given away an absolute lock in our best 22 for nothing at all... reality is, Howard was fringe and in fact couldnt even get a game at the end of the season.

There is no way that a player of his size and "attributes" should be anywhere near the fringe of a bottom 8 side - we desperately needed/ need a tall defender and a tall forward, in theory Howard should be perfect for either of these roles... for him to be allowed to walk out as a contracted player speaks volumes as to how little the club actually saw in him.

Listening to Cripps tonight, it is clear that the club didnt see Howard as best 22 and are rapt to turn him into a first round pick.

Howard couldn't get a game at the end of the season because our ****wit coach decided to play him out of position for half the year. Our ****wit coach then dropped Dougal to the SANFL instead of doing the smart thing and moving him back to defence where he was, prior to being played out of position, in good form.

Cripps has shit for brains. The bloke's a mouth-breather.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

You'd think Stkilda have won nothing in years



Oh yeah

Wow.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Remember the time certain people on here were convinced we were playing SGray/Ryder for trade value at same time Dougal was at the Magpies.

#thatwentwell

I hope we enjoy the difference between a 2020 fourth rounder and 2021 fourth rounder.

 

[manureid]

Just another bunch of players we will turnover and the coach will still not be the reason we are.mediocre at best. Alex list of players coming and going and still the same shit grows.

 

[snozulu]

Eenie, meenie, miney, mo

Eenie, meenie, miney, moes tavern

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The trouble is Ford:-

1. C4 obviously has inside knowledge, and could therefore be saying what the club wants us to hear, sometimes at least.

2. An aspect I disliked about the Wingard trade was that our club/coaches were unable to work with a "different" individual. So they took the easy way out and moved him on. Is that the case here?

3. Kinkles crapped on about the club "wrapping its arms around him". I am assuming that Dougal didn't feel the love and then, like you and I, he looked out for himself.

4. Could this just be the club looking around for an individual to play his part in improving our trading position, like last year? It worked, well, and hopefully it does again here. But the player himself may not be happy about it, hence wanting a better deal. Which came first, Dougal getting the feeling/knowledge that he was out the door, or Dougal being mercenary? We won't know, and I doubt C4 knows.

I believe there are internal ructions in the club, including players. Koch told the players immediately after the last game that Ken would be the coach in 2020, a strange thing to do to me unless Ken wasn't everyone's flavour. This Dougal trade is very possibly some unrest playing out.

It isn't just "follow the money", though you are far more likely to be in the know than me.

C4 posts mostly on the Carlton board but shares Port info with us. I have never thought he was posting with any agenda, just keeping us updated with any Port news he hears. I think that is very generous and many people appreciate it.

He has also been open about tensions between various elements of Port's football departments which may be contributing to a difficult environment.

He has provided the breadcrumbs of a narrative that people can interpret as they see fit.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

C4 posts mostly on the Carlton board but shares Port info with us. I have never thought he was posting with any agenda, just keeping us updated with any Port news he hears. I think that is very generous and many people appreciate it.

He has also been open about tensions between various elements of Port's football departments which may be contributing to a difficult environment.

He has provided the breadcrumbs of a narrative that people can interpret as they see fit.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

Especially when the messenger has a track record of being spot on.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

There is a lot of mixed messages coming out of Port Adelaide as an organisation bringing in Motlop/watts/Rockliff screams going all in for a flag

Trading Polec and wingard signals a rebuild

Club isn’t on the same page as for being easy traders or campaigners to deal with Essendon are pricks yet get no where

Richmond take unders to get players where they want to go to help with culture and makes us more attractive to others

Port lean to the Richmond way more so then the Essendon

Port remind me of 2016 Richmond club was in an awful way certain players (Deledio) a cancer in the locker room board all over the place you just need a strong footy person to come in and have everyone working as one it can turn quick but how it is at the moment is untenable it alienates fans/players and good ppl working in the organisation

Hopefully it turns quick

 

[PowerBaz]

Can we trade Ken for a greyhound?

 

[Harlott]

There is a lot of mix messages coming out of Port Adelaide as an organisation bringing in Motlop/watts/Rockliff screams going all in for a flag

Trading Polec and wingard signals a rebuild

Club isn’t on the same page as for being easy traders or campaigners to deal with Essendon are pricks yet get no where

Richmond take unders to get players where they want to go to help with culture and makes us more attractive to others

Port lean to the Richmond way more so then the Essendon

Port remind me of 2016 Richmond club was in an awful way certain players (Deledio) a cancer in the locker room board all over the place you just need a strong footy person to come in and have everyone working as one it can turn quick but how it is at the moment is untenable it alienates fans/players and good ppl working in the organisation

Hopefully it turns quick

What this guy says. I have no f****** idea what they're getting at. Ken's got some supposed trigger for 2020 yet gets rid of players like Wingard, Polec and now Frampton and Howard + Ryder for draft picks and/or improve culture. Can someone explain how he's not a dead man walking with this seemingly rebuild approach?

 

[blaargh]

**** knows what's going to happen tomorrow.

I am hoping that a 5 year vision trumps a 6 month vision.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

What this guy says. I have no f****** idea what they're getting at. Ken's got some supposed trigger for 2020 yet gets rid of players like Wingard, Polec and now Frampton and Howard + Ryder for draft picks and/or improve culture. Can someone explain how he's not a dead man walking with this seemingly rebuild approach?

Ryder is cooked getting rid of him makes sense. Honestly doubt Frampton makes it so again no harm him leaving only hurts because it’s your bitter rival

Polec did he leave for cash or his mrs? He’s a bit of a mercenary

Wingard is the one that signals problems at the club he did everything to get too port yet then leaves was he a cancer in the locker room or just the first to have enough of mr Coke Zero?

As for Hinkley he’s a used car salesman and quite good at that he leveraged supposed interest by the suns to bend kochie over and set himself up for life

Unfortunately kochie and others are over there head and it still seems your club is handicapped cash wise that you have to grin and bear it

Not sure what the answer is but port are screaming out for a Neale Balme type and a strong ceo because either the afl or sanfl are using you without lube

 

[ozph1870]

Todd Marshall on Insta..”I’m going to miss you Uncs”
I remember him saying how much Ryder has helped him since the loss of his parents.
I guess next year the Saints will get a promising young forward from us for peanuts when he decides he wants to join Ryder there.

Good luck to him if he does. He just has to look around to see how we treat players here. Id be wanting out too.

 

[FutureShock]

Listening to Cripps about their trade decisions was predictably unsatisfying. His statement that Port can use Watts, Westhoff and Lienert to cover the opposition's tall forwards.....gee, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. He and the other keystone cops making these calls must be heckin'g imbeciles.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

well played Stinkley you got what you wanted

Port better have something lined up before the end of the trade period otherwise there will be manure dumped on the front doorstep of Alberton on Thursday.

Make sure it’s chicken shit it spreads better