Transgender - Part 2

[Gethelred]

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[Ghost Patrol]

Sure, if she's asking to compete in a boxing competition for females.

She has written books under a male name though. Whats going on there?

If this test is so non invasive, she should just do it yeah?

 

[ShanDog]

She has written books under a male name though. Whats going on there?

If this test is so non invasive, she should just do it yeah?

Snide, illogical and irrelevant.

This insistence on trying to drag the conversation down to the level of a twitter shitfight needs to stop. You're supposed to set an example.

 

[Gralin]

Rowling has been strangely quiet since around the time Khelif announce legal action against the online abuse she had received

meanwhile the ant trans activists she supports and platforms and retweets are still going and calling Khelif a man

She's even stopped retweeting all the shitheads temporarily

 

[faible]

Rowling has been strangely quiet since around the time Khelif announce legal action against the online abuse she had received

meanwhile the ant trans activists she supports and platforms and retweets are still going and calling Khelif a man

She's even stopped retweeting all the shitheads temporarily

High profile public individual goes quiet due to announcement of legal action.

Not sure it's strange.

 

[Chief]

All this conspiracy theorising (but da Russians faked da tests!) is just besides the point.

The test - real or not - was irrelevant to the IOC process anyway. They don't do these tests and don't plan to.

 

[Chief]

Snide, illogical and irrelevant.

Which is I believe the description the IOC gave to the IBA transvestigation letter.

 

[Gralin]

High profile public individual goes quiet due to announcement of legal action.

Not sure it's strange.

I'm trying to recall a previous instance of her doing it though

usually she's like go ahead sue me I'm a billionaire

it could be unrelated

it could also be that JKR is in some actual legal trouble and has been told by her lawyers to STFU

 

[faible]

it could also be that JKR is in some actual legal trouble and has been told by her lawyers to STFU

This was what I was implying. I don't think JKR would ever admit she was wrong, but I suspect her silence on the topic is about as close and she'll get to it.

 

[The Tilt]

The test - real or not - was irrelevant to the IOC process anyway. They don't do these tests and don't plan to.

Ah, yup, that's what I said. They've decided not to check whether participants in the female category are actually female.

 

[Chief]

Ah, yup, that's what I said. They've decided not to check whether participants in the female category are actually female.

This is not the case. They go off their home country's determination.

I am sure if a 7 foot competitor in a full beard who had only recently changed their passport from M to F - with no actual transitioning taking place - would not be accepted as a competitor in women's categories, whether or not their passport showed they were female.

Someone will try it, of course.

 

[ShanDog]

Ah yes, I'm very sure JKR is super duper concerned that Khelif, from Algeria, made a complaint - likely without naming who it was against - to the French Police, about something said on an American-owned platform, in case they decided to charge her with... something, and it goes to the court of... somewhere. Scary stuff.

There is no chance that Khelif would sue anyone in a civil court for libel. That would require everyone to show their hands.

 

[ShanDog]

This is not the case. They go off their home country's determination.

I am sure if a 7 foot competitor in a full beard who had only recently changed their passport from M to F - with no actual transitioning taking place - would not be accepted as a competitor in women's categories, whether or not their passport showed they were female.

Someone will try it, of course.

TRANSPHOBE

 

[Chief]

Ah yes, I'm very sure JKR is super duper concerned that Khelif, from Algeria, made a complaint - likely without naming who it was against - to the French Police, about something said on an American-owned platform, in case they decided to charge her with... something, and it goes to the court of... somewhere. Scary stuff.

There is no chance that Khelif would sue anyone in a civil court for libel. That would require everyone to show their hands.

Surely Joanne hasn't turned over a new leaf and stopped being a transphobe?

 

[ShanDog]

Surely Joanne hasn't turned over a new leaf and stopped being a transphobe?

Gotta hate strong, opinionated women, amiright?

 

[Gralin]

I dislike bigot billionaires that use their money and reach to spread hate and misinformation

You know, like a non campaigner

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Snide, illogical and irrelevant.

This insistence on trying to drag the conversation down to the level of a twitter shitfight needs to stop. You're supposed to set an example.

I want JK Rowling to lead by example.

 

[Chief]

Gotta hate strong, opinionated women, amiright?

Not my thing, but if that is how you roll...

 

[ShanDog]

Burn the witch!!

 

[Chief]

Burn the witch!!

Now YOU sound like JK!

 

[ShanDog]

Highly recommend listening to the podcast series The Witch Trial of JK Rowling. You misogynists would actually appreciate it, as it's actually quite balanced and fair. There's an episode with an extended interview with ContraPoints which is a real highlight. Might learn something.

 

[Gough]

I've never quite seen why a kids book author is seen as such an authority on this subject, it feels a bit like wanting your questions on quantum physics answered by Marnus Labuschange.

 

[Chief]

Highly recommend listening to the podcast series The Witch Trial of JK Rowling. You misogynists would actually appreciate it, as it's actually quite balanced and fair. There's an episode with an extended interview with ContraPoints which is a real highlight. Might learn something.

Try the one from three years ago:



And a year ago:

 

[ShanDog]

Try the one from three years ago:



And a year ago:

Yep, seen them.

 

[The Tilt]

This is not the case. They go off their home country's determination.

Again, you tell me i'm wrong only to then repeat what i said.

I am sure if a 7 foot competitor in a full beard who had only recently changed their passport from M to F - with no actual transitioning taking place - would not be accepted as a competitor in women's categories, whether or not their passport showed they were female.

Sorry, what!?! Why we would exclude her from competing? Because she's tall? I mean, what about Ian Thorpe's big feet? Is that an "unfair advantage"?

So sick of people wanting their narrow standards of femininity reflected in women's sport. Sigh

 

[ShanDog]

I've never quite seen why a kids book author is seen as such an authority on this subject, it feels a bit like wanting your questions on quantum physics answered by Marnus Labuschange.

Apparently she's responsible for thousands of trans deaths worldwide now, and the media hang off her every word, waiting to amplify it throughout the universe because she's just THAT important.