Transgender - Part 2

[Gethelred]

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[Chief]

Roselea seems to be able to hold their own:



Ravens looking dismal. Hope they can pick themselves up!

 

[10571z]

Roselea seems to be able to hold their own:

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Ravens looking dismal. Hope they can pick themselves up!

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You’ve posted the ladder and results from 2019…

 

[Gralin]

Why is that less than 1% of the population are Trans females but 50% of the starting 10 for the flying bats are Trans?

If it was an even playing field shouldn’t this be proportionate to the regular population?

Does sports participation line up with general population?

Why don’t we see a local football side with 5 trans males?

How would you know if a local footy side had five trans men playing in it?

 

[10571z]

Does sports participation line up with general population?



How would you know if a local footy side had five trans men playing in it?

It would be news for starters.

 

[Gralin]

It would be news for starters.

So you can't find any news of trans men playing soccer?

Or you haven't seen any so assume there is no news of trans men playing soccer?

 

[Chief]

You’ve posted the ladder and results from 2019…

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Wow! How embarrassed am I?

 

[10571z]

So you can't find any news of trans men playing soccer?

Or you haven't seen any so assume there is no news of trans men playing soccer?

There is trans men playing soccer. Just not 5 in the top local side dominating men.

 

[Gralin]

There is trans men playing soccer. Just not 5 in the top local side dominating men.

And you know this because?

 

[10571z]

And you know this because?

It would be world news. Every other Trans triumph seems to be well published,

 

[Gralin]

It would be world news. Every other Trans triumph seems to be well published,

Interesting view of how reality works.
If you've not read about it in the news it's not real

 

[Gralin]

 

[Chief]

Anti-science plonkers at it again...



Protect the kids! Have a war!

 

[adogsfan5]

This might kick off soon.

Paris Olympics 2024: Angela Carini, Imane Khelif fight invites Marissa Williamson rebuke

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Gralin]

This might kick off soon.

Paris Olympics 2024: Angela Carini, Imane Khelif fight invites Marissa Williamson rebuke

amp.smh.com.au

The gender crits are going crazy that two cis women with higher testosterone levels have been allowed to box after meeting the Olympic requirements

There are no trans women competing at the Olympics so we've reached the acccuse your opponent of being one stage of this

 

[Chief]

This might kick off soon.

Paris Olympics 2024: Angela Carini, Imane Khelif fight invites Marissa Williamson rebuke

amp.smh.com.au

I'm sure the weirdos will kick off over it.

I don't understand - the boxer is trans? Or seems to be doping? Or has naturally high testosterone?

 

[adogsfan5]

The gender crits are going crazy that two cis women with higher testosterone levels have been allowed to box after meeting the Olympic requirements

There are no trans women competing at the Olympics so we've reached the acccuse your opponent of being one stage of this

What are the Olympic requirements out of interest / do you have a link?

Edit: all good, found them!

 

[ZEV]

I'm sure the weirdos will kick off over it.

I don't understand - the boxer is trans? Or seems to be doping? Or has naturally high testosterone?

Xy chromosome apparently

 

[Chief]

Xy chromosome apparently

This seems like a "what I heard" type thing.

 

[ZEV]

This seems like a "what I heard" type thing.

I clearly bow to your superior knowledge. I am not an expert.

Imane Khelif of Algeria (66kg division) and Taiwan's Lin Yu‑ting (57kg) were thrown out by the International Boxing Association that has since lost sanctioning power of the Olympics due to integrity concerns.

The IBA claimed the boxers' chromosome tests came back as XY, which is typically the male chromosome, rather than a female's XX.

'This issue is not black and white': Australian boxing captain and coach disagree over gender eligibility decisions

Caitlin Parker says she believes the approval of two boxers at the Olympics who had failed gender eligibility tests is "incredibly dangerous", while coach Santiago Nieva says it's "not black and white".

www.abc.net.au

 

[ShanDog]

Yeah seems like a pretty clear case of the person having a DSD and is biologically male. Shouldn't be competing in the female category.

 

[Chief]

I clearly bow to your superior knowledge. I am not an expert.

Links to source help it not sound like a "what I heard" thing. Yeah?

 

[BlueE]

Yeah seems like a pretty clear case of the person having a DSD and is biologically male. Shouldn't be competing in the female category.

It's not clear that they are DSD or what the 'gender assessment' they failed and were banned for a year ago was and wouldn't have been eligible for the Olympics.

There have been comments they both failed both high testosterone levels and had XY chromosomes.

The new boxing unit formed to determine eligibility for the Olympics Paris Boxing Unit (PBU) only required the boxers to identify as women and accepted being identified as F(emale) in a passport, acceptable.

Boxer 'deemed male' leaves Italian female fighter in tears at Olympics

Controversial Algerian fighter Imane Khelif clashed with Italian Angela Carini in this morning's Olympic welterweight bout.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Federations that govern rugby, track and field, swimming and cycling have all introduced rules in some form to address biological males in women's sport, though the exact details of policies vary.

And boxing did as well, with the International Boxing Association (IAB) requiring athletes to undergo 'gender assessment'.

Though it doesn't detail the exact nature of these assessments, it is this test that Khelif and Lin failed last year at the IAB's Women's World Boxing Championships in New Delhi.

At the time IBA president, Umar Kremlev, claimed the tests had proven both Khelif and Lin 'had XY chromosomes'.

 

[ZEV]

Links to source help it not sound like a "what I heard" thing. Yeah?

Link was at the bottom of post...

Here it is again....

'This issue is not black and white': Australian boxing captain and coach disagree over gender eligibility decisions

Caitlin Parker says she believes the approval of two boxers at the Olympics who had failed gender eligibility tests is "incredibly dangerous", while coach Santiago Nieva says it's "not black and white".

www.abc.net.au

Yeah?

 

[Chief]

Xy chromosome apparently

I do not see a link on this post. Yeah?

 

[ShanDog]

It's not clear that they are DSD or what the 'gender assessment' they failed and were banned for a year ago was and wouldn't have been eligible for the Olympics.

There have been comments they both failed both high testosterone levels and had XY chromosomes.

The new boxing unit formed to determine eligibility for the Olympics Paris Boxing Unit (PBU) only required the boxers to identify as women and accepted being identified as F(emale) in a passport, acceptable.

Boxer 'deemed male' leaves Italian female fighter in tears at Olympics

Controversial Algerian fighter Imane Khelif clashed with Italian Angela Carini in this morning's Olympic welterweight bout.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Federations that govern rugby, track and field, swimming and cycling have all introduced rules in some form to address biological males in women's sport, though the exact details of policies vary.

And boxing did as well, with the International Boxing Association (IAB) requiring athletes to undergo 'gender assessment'.

Though it doesn't detail the exact nature of these assessments, it is this test that Khelif and Lin failed last year at the IAB's Women's World Boxing Championships in New Delhi.

At the time IBA president, Umar Kremlev, claimed the tests had proven both Khelif and Lin 'had XY chromosomes'.

I meant that (a DSD) was the most likely scenario, and specifically for Khelif.