MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[Alberton Proud]

Didn't Byron Pickett get the ban bumped? Oh and don't forget the Primus ruck rule

Wozza copped a fair bit for just celebrating a goal

 

[Alberton Proud]

You don't brace for impact by propping, throwing your weight forward and leading with your shoulder

 

[TeeKray]

You don't brace for impact by propping, throwing your weight forward and leading with your shoulder

Yes you do, Scott Pendlebury does it all the time! Powell-Pepper just unlucky.

 

[MrMeaner]

I was about to say that King should be ignored on anything MRP and tribunal-related after embarrassing himself over Gaff but I realised I could just say "King should be ignored".

 

[Wargreymon90]

No surprises that Whateley sees the baseline of a 3 week suspension as clear cut (rating the impact as severe) and a strong possibility of the AFL increasing the penalty further to set an example.

'From where we left off last year I’d say the Powell Pepper bump is a straight up and down three week ban.

But if the AFL has a mind to increase the deterrent it will seek four weeks in this case and establish a greater penalty.

I feel as though you, the constituency, as ready for this type of suspension to rise.

It’s one of those incidents in which the AFL will get whatever penalty it seeks so we’ll learn a bit about the League’s thinking in the hours ahead.'

Pity so many of these journalists are unwilling or unable to challenge the notion of the AFL re-interpreting their own rules on the fly and using a single incident and player as their sacrificial lamb to do it.

Powell-Pepper got his timing horribly wrong, will the AFL make an example of him?

“It gives the AFL a rolled gold case to set the base for careless bumping suspensions in 2024.”

www.sen.com.au

I think he’s right here. Its unfortunate that this is the first incident for the year, but if they want more severe penalties it needs to be consistent throughout the year.

 

[philthy05]

Remember when Shane Edwards

10

Shane Edwards

Age

35

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

9.1

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

3.0

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.6

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

4.2

5star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.2

3star

derailed duursmas career with a late tackle after x kicked the ball that injured duursma and Edwards didn’t have to even face the mrp

 

[Willsy10]

Whiteley and King are the two most insufferable people in the AFL media by a fair margin. I honestly can't stand either of them.

Kingy seems to love laying the boots into us for some reason. And Whiteley has this ridiculously heightened opinion of himself where he talks as if we are all waiting for his wise counsel on all issues and his opinion overrides anyone elses because he legitimately thinks he is the smartest and most morally superior man to ever live.

 

[Interstater]

Shoulder heights similar.


Crow dragged down slightly


One shoulder rides over the other


Don't blame the player, blame the game.

Change the rules to remove the bump AFL, or accept liability for allowing them, when you know full well that accidents will happen.

Pretty clear that SPP didn't go high, the crow was being dragged down by Rioli.

 

[Janey]

I think he’s right here. Its unfortunate that this is the first incident for the year, but if they want more severe penalties it needs to be consistent throughout the year.

That's OK, we all know they won't be consistent, but I would have thought if they want more severe penalties they should change the grading so that there is an extra week(s) for a given rating and meanwhile they should just penalise according to the existing rules.

 

[Powerade 08]

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Looks like the umpire is killing a seagull. How many weeks is that?

 

[PowerBaz]

Just remember this only got 2 weeks.

 

[Interstater]

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Just remember this only got 2 weeks.

And Maynard got nil.

Then again, why are people silly enough to expect precedent to apply.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

No surprises that Whateley sees the baseline of a 3 week suspension as clear cut (rating the impact as severe) and a strong possibility of the AFL increasing the penalty further to set an example.

'From where we left off last year I’d say the Powell Pepper bump is a straight up and down three week ban.

But if the AFL has a mind to increase the deterrent it will seek four weeks in this case and establish a greater penalty.

I feel as though you, the constituency, as ready for this type of suspension to rise.

It’s one of those incidents in which the AFL will get whatever penalty it seeks so we’ll learn a bit about the League’s thinking in the hours ahead.'

Pity so many of these journalists are unwilling or unable to challenge the notion of the AFL re-interpreting their own rules on the fly and using a single incident and player as their sacrificial lamb to do it.

Powell-Pepper got his timing horribly wrong, will the AFL make an example of him?

“It gives the AFL a rolled gold case to set the base for careless bumping suspensions in 2024.”

www.sen.com.au

I wish someone would give Whately 4 weeks

 

[Grave Danger]

And Maynard got nil.

Then again, why are people silly enough to expect precedent to apply.

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What was the original penalty given before he won his appeal?

 

[theouthouse]

This hasn't answered my question. What was SPP expecting to happen in the contest that made going in so hard the reasonable option?

Negate the "careless" aspect for me. If we can negate the careless aspect of the charge, he might get off. But what you're describing when talking about "one second" is the result of SPP going into a contest carelessly. If he'd taken proper care (like players do at every contest in every game) he wouldn't have been in that situation.

The ball was not in the control of Keane or any player only seconds prior. There is no rule to state how hard a player can approach a contest for a loose ball.

SPP does all he can to slow down once the ball is in the control of a player as evidenced via the video and screenshots where he plans his feet and barely moves, the contest comes towards him.

Keane also tries to avoid Riolis tackle by rotating away and to the outside, which for all purposes is akin to ducking in terms of self preservation.

Unfortunate football incident.

Best outcome will be the port players finally learn they all don't have to commit to the contest so can have a few sit back a bit so they don't get burnt time and time again by the opposition players who sit out of the contest waiting for the easy ball.

 

[Windy Cindy]

I wish someone would give Whately 4 weeks

if that's a 4 weeker, there are going to be some players who miss massive chucks through suspension this year.

couldn't possibility be 4 weeks. If that's 4 weeks kozzies from last year would be 8 this year.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

if that's a 4 weeker, there are going to be some players who miss massive chucks through suspension this year.

couldn't possibility be 4 weeks. If that's 4 weeks kozzies from last year would be 8 this year.

Did laugh at the idea that precedents ever matter in the AFL

It could be 4, and Daicos could do twice as bad round 1 and get off.

 

[PAFC66]

Wozza copped a fair bit for just celebrating a goal

Surprised he wasn't fined

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[PAFC66]

No surprise. 4 weeks incoming

 

[Duckimus Prime]

2 crows players should be looked at here. Head high bump, and a dangerous sling tackle.
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The sling tackle in P5 is by an AFL listed player in Oscar Ryan.

Can't see the number of the player that laid the bump in P6.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Exactly the most likely outcome.

Our best bet here is to argue that the tackle provided a significant amount of the force and get it reduced down to careless/high/high for 2 weeks.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

King & Whateley would be ecstatic.

 

[PatientMental]

King & Whateley would be ecstatic.

Who do you think the afl bases their verdict off of?

Because it's sure as shit not from anything other than the court of public opinion

 

[Scodges]

Ban the bump, or don’t suspend when a player does, regardless of accidental head knock.
If it’s a very obvious , no doubt about intentional, thuggery high bump, then suspend.
The rules are, you can bump. The game is played at high speed. And there are so many variables, player height, player going to ground etc. so many things can go wrong during a bump. It should not be a hanging offence & said player made to feel like criminal.



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