US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

[Chief]

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US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

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[Ants]

BuT tRuMp VoTeD bY mAiL. Do people not understand the difference between a POTUS voting by mail... (1) and allowing tens of millions of unverified ballots to be sent out for the whole country to do so? (2) For all the paranoia about Russian election interference, the sudden advocacy for the most insecure voting process (3) in history is just weird.

Your god Fauci has stated there's no reason that people can't vote in person, it's time for the Dems to abandon cheating tactic #68217 (4) and resume the focus on winning democratically (oh who am I kidding).

So, to debate your points:

1. Trump voted by mail before he was Potus. He's also supporting vote by mail in Florida, saying it is secure there, despite the fact Florida has no more controls than other states. The difference is that it is expected to be Republicans voting by mail in Florida.
2. Nope, I don't understand the difference. Please explain it to me.
3. You will need to back this up.
4. I'd like some support of this claim as well.

I will totally agree that there is more fraud via vote by mail than in-person voting. However, for it to be a problem, you will have to shown some evidence that it is material. i.e. an increase in a tiny factor still leaves a tiny factor.

There is no evidence that voting fraud via mail (or for that matter in-person) is more than a tiny percentage of the votes. Please show otherwise. In light of that, the fact that one party is trying to reduce votes, who has openly said they want to reduce votes, whose President has openly said that more votes means Republicans lose and that he's not dealing with the Dems because he wants to stop money for the post office, then it is pretty clear which party opposes democracy.

 

[Balls In]

Dems want to cheat the election. Their candidates wont answer questions and Trump just fixed the middle east!

 

[GreyCrow]

Try debating the points. Is one potentially corrupted mail vote the equivalent of tens of millions of them? It's apples and oranges.

Lol - you dont care - you and Balls Up deflect and give non-answers all the time

If you think there are 10 million Russians working at the mail centre then I have a bridge

 

[RobbieK]

Dems want to cheat the election. Their candidates wont answer questions and Trump just fixed the middle east!

Totally delusional.

 

[Balls In]

Totally delusional.

Even at Kamala's unveiling they get up there, read any old bullshit from a teleprompter then its go! go! go! - straight back to the basesment. Its pathetic. Meanwhile Trump is out there everyday fielding all the hard questions.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Trump wins easily.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I know this will shock many of you, but Imma back Trump.

I see nothing but the same talking points as in 2016.
"This article assures me that Trump will lose... that's right isn't, guys? He won't win, right? RIGHT!?"

Can you justify removal of post boxes and putting up barriers to voting?

I have put my “vote” For Biden/Harris but would not be surprised (not as much as 2016) if trump wins.

 

[Balls In]

Lol - you dont care - you and Balls Up deflect and give non-answers all the time

If you think there are 10 million Russians working at the mail centre then I have a bridge

Who needs Russians when you have swamp creatures doing the Democrats bidding. Mail in ballots are a blatently obvious fraud waiting to happen.

 

[Crankyhawk]

BuT tRuMp VoTeD bY mAiL. Do people not understand the difference between a POTUS voting by mail... and allowing tens of millions of unverified ballots to be sent out for the whole country to do so? For all the paranoia about Russian election interference, the sudden advocacy for the most insecure voting process in history is just weird.

Your god Fauci has stated there's no reason that people can't vote in person, it's time for the Dems to abandon cheating tactic #68217 and resume the focus on winning democratically (oh who am I kidding).

If Australia can manage to do it I’m not sure why a superpower of democracy cannot?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Dems want to cheat the election. Their candidates wont answer questions and Trump just fixed the middle east!

Fixed? No. A small step and good news no doubt but not fixed.

 

[Financialpanther]

Dems want to cheat the election. Their candidates wont answer questions and Trump just fixed the middle east!

Glad that war between Israel and the UAE never happened and also glad their shared use of military facilities between the two nations will continue like before this historic peace deal.

 

[Balls In]

Kamala bragged about smoking cannabis after a career of locking up minorities for same, used sexual favours to progress her career, and agreed to be VP for a man she had previously categorically stated is a rapist (inb4 Trump deflection).

Tulsi Gabbard took Kamala apart on that first point. Ended her presidential campaign. Tusli is the last good democrat I would definately get behind.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Id vote for a Kanye West/Taylor Swift joint ballot myself

 

[FireKrakouer]

Tulsi Gabbard took Kamala apart on that first point. Ended her presidential campaign. Tusli is one democrat I could really get behind.

Yup, it was obvious that Kamala was the establishment's choice when they wheeled out Hillary to make the absurd claim that Tulsi was a Russian spy after this event.

Now they've found a back door to getting her elected: stick her as VP and have Joe retire due to "unexpected health complications" one month into his presidency.

Interesting that the "defund the police" type einsteins may wind up voting a cop into the Oval Office

 

[GreyCrow]

Who needs Russians when you have swamp creatures doing the Democrats bidding. Mail in ballots are a blatently obvious fraud waiting to happen.

Are you saying the Republicans can't afford more swamp people to even it out?

 

[The Passenger]

Totally delusional.

Balls In has less grasp on reality then me after 300μg.

When the Eagles board was celebrating 2018 he was debating Judd or Cox for the Norm.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Even at Kamala's unveiling they get up there, read any old bullshit from a teleprompter then its go! go! go! - straight back to the basesment. Its pathetic. Meanwhile Trump is out there everyday fielding all the hard questions.

Um that is his job. The opposition candidate normally is not asked or held to account for policy of the incumbent.

 

[FireKrakouer]

So, to debate your points:

1. Trump voted by mail before he was Potus. He's also supporting vote by mail in Florida, saying it is secure there, despite the fact Florida has no more controls than other states. The difference is that it is expected to be Republicans voting by mail in Florida.
2. Nope, I don't understand the difference. Please explain it to me.
3. You will need to back this up.
4. I'd like some support of this claim as well.

I will totally agree that there is more fraud via vote by mail than in-person voting. However, for it to be a problem, you will have to shown some evidence that it is material. i.e. an increase in a tiny factor still leaves a tiny factor.

There is no evidence that voting fraud via mail (or for that matter in-person) is more than a tiny percentage of the votes. Please show otherwise. In light of that, the fact that one party is trying to reduce votes, who has openly said they want to reduce votes, whose President has openly said that more votes means Republicans lose and that he's not dealing with the Dems because he wants to stop money for the post office, then it is pretty clear which party opposes democracy.

I will give this a proper response later when I have time to dig a bit further, but there's evidence out there of ballots being sent to deceased people or even pets.

I fully accept that at least part of the GOPs reason for opposing mail ballots is an unscrupulous attempt at voter suppression, but that does not mean that they don't have a point regarding election integrity too.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Um that is his job. The opposition candidate normally is not asked or held to account for policy of the incumbent.

Strong misinterpretation there. Biden and Harris should be facing more tough questioning regarding their own track records, no one is asking them to be "held to account for policy of the incumbent".

 

[Financialpanther]

Strong misinterpretation there. Biden and Harris should be facing more tough questioning regarding their own track records, no one is asking them to be "held to account for policy of the incumbent".

Agree.

 

[GreyCrow]

For a base that strongly supports the rah rah fighting men overseas - its ironic the biggest group affected are overseas servicemen and women who vote by mail. No its not ironic - its sad - its sad that Trump thinks so little of the military

 

[Crankyhawk]

Strong misinterpretation there. Biden and Harris should be facing more tough questioning regarding their own track records, no one is asking them to be "held to account for policy of the incumbent".

The poster I quoted was saying trump is answering tough questions while Biden et al aren’t. That poster needs to learn to be more specific or do they want to provoke miscommunication?

Edit and yes I agree with the point you are making that there should be scrutiny on the democrat nominees

 

[Balls In]

Balls In has less grasp on reality then me after 300μg.

When the Eagles board was celebrating 2018 he was debating Judd or Cox for the Norm.

Is this where you attack me rather than refute anything I've said using facts?

 

[Balls In]

The poster I quoted was saying trump is answering tough questions while Biden et al aren’t. That poster needs to learn to be more specific or do they want to provoke miscommunication?

Edit and yes I agree with the point you are making that there should be scrutiny on the democrat nominees

What specifics are you after? Biden is locked away and refuses to answer any questions that aren't scripted or read off a teleprompter. He hasn't even managed that without screwing it up. Meanwhile Trump faces the media every day. Yes or no?

 

[GreyCrow]

What specifics are you after? Biden is locked away and refuses to answer any questions that aren't scripted or read off a teleprompter. He hasn't even managed that without screwing it up. Meanwhile Trump faces the media every day. Yes or no?

Trump as President should face the media every day - or at least regularly

Why does Biden need to?