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Yep and ranking him our 16th player for the year
I do think Sando was put on the spot by Rowie. He was always going to say good stuff about VB. As if a coach would go on radio and slag off the captain. Whats said public can be far from whats said behind closed doors.
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Unfortunately, he was never asked the direct question. The question he was asked was "Would you consider co- captains?"
Just another hard-hitting question from Rowey and Bone.
Those two surely know how ridiculously transparent they are. The fact they are asking about the captaincy shows they are either thinking what most of us are, or are aware of supporter sentiment. But they hide behind the veil of "co-captains." Because, you know, VB is a good bloke.
Ask a hard question without an agenda for ONCE IN YOUR LIVES.
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Our B&F voting wasn't done in the 5AA studios, it accurately reflects that he wasn't doing his job as you suggested
Yes. End of debate.
Yet another example of someone unable to differentiate between playing ability and leadership. Come back again when you have gained some idea about the latter. Until then your posting on the subject is laughably irrelevant.
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Best 17 to be exact.
Lucky Walker, Jenkins and Reilly were injured for large parts of the year or it would have been touch and go.....
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Don't listen to 5AA, so that would be a no.
Well you keep saying he's a gun leader. Give us some examples of his gun leadership so that we, the unknowing, might drink at the fountain of your insight
I have already done so repeatedly. The search function is your friend.
I have never stated that he is a great player, only a great leader.
As a leader, he is probably second only to Roo. As a player he has no place in our best ever 22, though his place in our current best 22 is completely assured.
I have never stated that he is a great player, only a great leader.
As a leader, he is probably second only to Roo. As a player he has no place in our best ever 22, though his place in our current best 22 is completely assured.
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IMO, VB is our best 11-20 player group.
He is in our best-22, but has slipped to the point where it would be in his best interests to hand over the captaincy to Danger & concentrate on playing good footy.
AFC need to do the right thing by VB & settle him in a role for 2014, rather than using him all over the place, as they have done him no favours.
He is in our best-22, but has slipped to the point where it would be in his best interests to hand over the captaincy to Danger & concentrate on playing good footy.
AFC need to do the right thing by VB & settle him in a role for 2014, rather than using him all over the place, as they have done him no favours.
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Haven't you said previously that Goodwin was better than Roo?
My search function is broken, can you bullet point what his qualities are and how you are so well informed that he is a such a great leader?
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If off field leadership is so critically important that we're willing to forgive VB's on field performances, why don't we just grab someone like Nelson Mandela, and stick him in the forward pocket?
There has to be a 50/50 split between off field and on field performance. We all know Dangerfield and Sloane are FAR superior on field. Surely they couldn't be equally inferior off field?
There has to be a 50/50 split between off field and on field performance. We all know Dangerfield and Sloane are FAR superior on field. Surely they couldn't be equally inferior off field?
What is there to suggest that VB is a better leader than Bickey, Roo or Goodwin ?
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Exactly, where does he pull these rankings from? Does he attend training? How about games? Does he have inside knowledge of VBs leadership compared to our previous captains? Typical Vader bullshit passed off as fact
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Nothing
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Don't forget vb is bones love child, he defends him till the cows come home, may have something to do with the little heroes foundation.
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vB is an outstanding person and may eventually give mother theresa a run for her money but is he the best choice to lead us to our next premiership?
We have plenty of hurdles to overcome (like loss of high draft picks) to win our third flag. We have to make every post a winner. Sydney, Hawthorn, Collingwood and Geelong have made tough decisions in recent years. We seem obsessed with doing the "nice thing" rather than making the tough decisions.
Yes. I believe he is. So do the coaches, the players and the management at the AFC. The only people who don't are those who have never had any connection with the man.
Lovely motherhood statement. Pity it's completely and utterly irrelevant. Selecting VB as Captain has nothing to do with being "nice" or failing to make a "tough" decision. He's the best candidate for the job and that's really all there is to it.
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I don't think his character gets called into question very often. I certainly don't doubt he is a fantastic person. But as a player and a captain he's well down the ranks.
Is the reverse also true? And if it is, could you please make the case for why he is an outstanding leader?
Also what traits of his outstanding leadership would we lose if he were not captain?
Would he not still be a model professional on the track setting examples off field?
If we can only enjoy leadership from the one true chosen one, what are we squandering by not empowering Rory or Danger with the throne?
Seems to me we think we can still enjoy most of Danger's leadership without him having the top job, why then is it imperative for VB to have the crown? Why?
How is that the end of the debate? You honestly think VB showed more than Kerridge or Lyons through the year.. Then take in the potential of those 2 youngsters...
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