VB (inc. achilles injury discussion)

[alex_is_on_fire]

Sounds like VB was tagging Betts up in Broome

I don't get this point?

They were in Melbourne for Brent Reilly bucks show last weekend. Nothing to do with Broome.

 

[FR0GGY]

I don't get this point?

They were in Melbourne for Brent Reilly bucks show last weekend. Nothing to do with Broome.

That's where vb and his partner met betts and his partner on holidays, it was mentioned in an article posted above somewhere.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

That's where vb and his partner met betts and his partner on holidays, it was mentioned in an article posted above somewhere.

oh ok. Play on.

 

[JP Sauce]

Sounds like VB was tagging Betts up in Broome

And he tagged him so poorly that Betts got to Melbourne and Adelaide with VB nowhere to be seen.

 

[cmndstab]

And he tagged him so poorly that Betts got to Melbourne and Adelaide with VB nowhere to be seen.

And he'd somehow pinched one of our guernseys while VB's back was turned as well!

 

[Jack is Back]

My reaction to the article was" here comes the spin to soften us up for another gutless decision".

vB is a great bloke but Danger will be a magnificent captain.

 

[Bacon8]

It is obvious - his form was woeful and those comparable in form to him were dropped.

VB had ONE 4 games period without getting B&F votes (R9-12). In each those games, at least 9 other players didn't poll votes either (so he wasn't alone).

After the bye, he polled votes in 7/10 games. If he was close to being dropped, why was he consistently receiving votes from the coaches?

 

[jangofett]

VB had ONE 4 games period without getting B&F votes (R9-12). In each those games, at least 9 other players didn't poll votes either (so he wasn't alone).

After the bye, he polled votes in 7/10 games. If he was close to being dropped, why was he consistently receiving votes from the coaches?

if there is a win, 99% of players get votes. In a loss, only the good players get them.

 

[jangofett]

when is the dangerfield captain being announced? as soon as it is i will buy a 2014 membership

 

[Vader]

when is the dangerfield captain being announced? as soon as it is i will buy a 2014 membership

They will probably announce that VB will be Captain again, some time in January.

 

[GROTTO]

They will probably announce that VB will be Captain again, some time in January.

Of course yes you are right. He will captain again and lead our reserves team with respect and dignity.

 

[Bacon8]

if there is a win, 99% of players get votes. In a loss, only the good players get them.

Incorrect. But hey, change the goalposts all you like. Number of wins never came into the equation.

VB got votes in 10 games, 3 were losses.

We averaged votes for 13 players in losses, and 19 in wins.

 

[King Elvis]

VB had ONE 4 games period without getting B&F votes (R9-12). In each those games, at least 9 other players didn't poll votes either (so he wasn't alone).

After the bye, he polled votes in 7/10 games. If he was close to being dropped, why was he consistently receiving votes from the coaches?

How many votes did he poll in those games?

How was his votes per games compared to the players that were dropped due to poor form?

 

[Bacon8]

How many votes did he poll in those games?

How was his votes per games compared to the players that were dropped due to poor form?

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2013-09-06/club-champ-roundbyround-voting

 

[jangofett]

Incorrect. But hey, change the goalposts all you like. Number of wins never came into the equation.

VB got votes in 10 games, 3 were losses.

We averaged votes for 13 players in losses, and 19 in wins.

Are you seriously saying he shouldn't have been dropped? He lost to a handful of players that played 5-10 less games than him in the BnF. Yea he performed well

 

[1970crow]

VB had ONE 4 games period without getting B&F votes (R9-12). In each those games, at least 9 other players didn't poll votes either (so he wasn't alone).

After the bye, he polled votes in 7/10 games. If he was close to being dropped, why was he consistently receiving votes from the coaches?

Removing substitute games, I think tambling averaged more votes per game. Happy to be proven wrong though.

 

[jangofett]

They will probably announce that VB will be Captain again, some time in January.

We would officially have the worst captain in the league

 

[Vader]

We would officially have the worst captain in the league

Nick Maxwell says hi! So do the Melbourne co-captains.

 

[Adelaide Cows]

Another post which assumes players and coaches don't get anything wrong.

Another post which assumes bf posters have more idea than the club we support of whom are closer to the actual facts.

 

[Adelaide Cows]

There is no doubt that Dangerfield has become the public face of the club. Not unexpected - he's our best player, good looking and has well groomed PR skills. He's also our most highly paid player (assumption).

One way the club has of paying him outside the salary cap is the "Additional Service Agreement". It's a slush fund of around $700k, for payment to the player(s) for doing marketing work for the club, in addition to their normal football duties. My guess is that Dangerfield is probably in line to claim around $300k of this, all outside the salary cap. This is why we see him doing jobs like this, ceremonially handing out jumpers to new recruits. It has nothing to do with club leadership and everything to do with remuneration.

I'm happy to make a small wager with you - but it's not open to everyone on the board. Just a small one-to-one bet. We can sort it out via PM though, taking it off the boards. Note that I will be offline for long periods in the next 5 weeks due to work commitments (the reason why I quit as moderator), so don't think I'm being rude if you don't get a quick response.

Danger is being groomed for the role, and is a worthy if not the best choice. This however is no reason to give VB the shellacking he receives on here.

If we think Danger's time is now, great, surely that doesn't mean we have to denigrate VB.

 

[Elite Crow]

Nick Maxwell says hi! So do the Melbourne co-captains.

all likely to be changed next year, so where does that leave VB in the rankings?

 

[Adelaide Cows]

it hurts to say, but you cant say Poort did not make the right choice in handing the captaincy over to Boak and on field leader something Cassisi (and VB) are not.

Sound great now, but was Boak ready previously. Cassisi played the role until he was ready. Ask Jack Trengrove if its the right decision to be promoted before your time.

 

[Wright Away]

I don't think discussing a professional footballer's performance in a negative light is equal to denegration.

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[Adelaide Cows]

This conversations been going long before his form slump, and has always been about who should or shouldn't be captain.

 

[FR0GGY]

This conversations been going long before his form slump, and has always been about who should or shouldn't be captain.

What does that say then?