Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 2

[Gethelred]

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This is a forum for adults, and I'd appreciate you all treating each other appropriately.

 

[mighty tiges]

Belarus says it is unable to pay off debt due to sanctions

Belarus said on Wednesday it was unable to repay its foreign currency-denominated debt due to sanctions imposed on it by the European Union and the United States.

www.reuters.com

 

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[Saint]

Poland should put a bunch of their assets on the Belarus border and point the gun right at Lukashenko's head. It's a fine balance, because you don't want the military to actually fear for themselves, they should just want to kill Lukashenko. I wonder how much the upper brass of the Belarus military has been purged to protect him and Putin.

 

[Sir_Loin]

I’m of Central European origin and I can categorically state that the Poles would love any excuse to f’up Russia or their allies at the drop of a hat. Lukashenko would be out of his mind to allow an attack through Belarus

 

[Saint]

I’m of Central European origin and I can categorically state that the Poles would love any excuse to f’up Russia or their allies at the drop of a hat. Lukashenko would be out of his mind to allow an attack through Belarus

The Poles have been waiting millennia for an opportunity when Russia is on its knees militarily and Poland has the world at its back. If Belarus invades Ukraine and Poland invades Belarus, no way are NATO/EU leaving the Poles/Ukrainians on their own. Belarus will be saved only if the offence is so swift it doesn't give time for Russia to shell all the Belarussian cities.

 

[wannabejack]

Russia And Belarus Keep Threatening To Reinvade Ukraine. It’s A Very Stupid Idea.

A second Russian force is gathering in Belarus. It’s unclear exactly why. But if the plan is for the force to reopen the northern front—well, it’s a pretty dumb one.

www.forbes.com

But Belarus’s 60,000-person army is no better than Russia’s, even if it is less bloodied. It’s possible Lukashenko isn’t willing to squander, on a losing war, what little combat power his country possesses.

Then there’s the weather. It’s getting wetter in Ukraine as it gets colder. The muddy early winter months are extremely hostile to offensive military operations. It’s not for no reason that wars in Ukraine tend to pause in November and December before resuming after the ground freezes in January. If Belarus deployed troops in Ukraine now, these troops would enjoy just a couple weeks of good weather before getting bogged down.

All those factors led Mike Martin, a fellow at the Department of War Studies at King’s College in London, to a simple conclusion. “The Russians and the Belarusians are posturing on the northern border of Ukraine,” he tweeted.


All it takes is a few statements and a couple trainloads of ammunition to create the impression that a Russian-Belarusian attack toward Kyiv is a real threat. That compels the Ukrainians to keep forces in reserve to defend the capital. Forces that can’t join a counteroffensive elsewhere.

For the Russians, signaling a northern attack alongside the Belarusians is smart strategy, inasmuch as it relieves the pressure on Russian battalions. But actually launching a northern attack alongside the Belarusians would be dumb.
That doesn’t mean the Russians won’t try it, Martin mused. “Russia has done some pretty stupid stuff in this war and so you can’t rule it out.”

 

[Visions]

Yevgeny Prigozhin is setting up a people's militia in Belgorod. Wagner Mercenary Chief Says Launching ‘People’s Militia’ Near Ukraine Border - The Moscow Times
A large private army maybe just the thing in the post-Putin period.

What a great idea. Wagner soldiers live the average age of a fruit fly.

 

[Visions]

Fascist Russia channeling its inner Hitler and the Nazi regime.

 

[Sir_Loin]

What a great idea. Wagner soldiers live the average age of a fruit fly.

Wagner’s thought Syria was the standard. Getting a lesson now.

 

[Jbudds]

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/volodymyr-zelenskyy-says-russias-plans-to-bomb-hydroelectric-dam-could-lead-to-largescale-disaster/news-story/63f79bccb89ba8df25387d87bda9e5bf

 

[Visions]

I wonder if the first wave of conscripts doesn't turn the tide of the war if Putin will start conscripting more in Moscow and St Petersburg?

He will be hit with a dilemma to either retreat and end the war or to effectively throw the sons of those who are keeping him in power into the battlefield.

Seems the current lot don't like getting hit and instead retreat.

 

[footyfan1978]

Brave to record video in occupied Kherson. If found on him I doubt it would end well.

 

[Visions]

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Thing is if they retreat from Kherson to the eastern side of the river and blow it up, they would then flood themselves moreso than the side they just left! Also they would stop the water supply to Crimea and maybe the electricity supply to the regions they occupy in the south. But this is the dumb Russians and their army we are talking about.,,,

 

[Visions]

Already foreseeing not paying their troops. But its not Vlad's fault, oh no. Always someone else.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Thing is if they retreat from Kherson to the eastern side of the river and blow it up, they would then flood themselves moreso than the side they just left! Also they would stop the water supply to Crimea and maybe the electricity supply to the regions they occupy in the south. But this is the dumb Russians and their army we are talking about.,,,

Most of the talk (/propaganda?) was; they won't retreat from kherson. If they lose it, there will be heavy fighting.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Most of the talk (/propaganda?) was; they won't retreat from kherson. If they lose it, there will be heavy fighting.

I think the Russians lose the city. Then the push to Crimea will be brutal given the terrain.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Belarus says it is unable to pay off debt due to sanctions

Belarus said on Wednesday it was unable to repay its foreign currency-denominated debt due to sanctions imposed on it by the European Union and the United States.

www.reuters.com

The folly of being a Putin Puppet

 

[Aussie in exile]

More problems for Putin on another border

Putin faces devastating Chechen civil war after rebels attack in shootout

Vladimir Putin and Russia has a new crisis on their hands after conflict broke out between protesters and loyalists supporting the republic's pro-Kremlin regime

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Punt Road Feral]

Brave to record video in occupied Kherson. If found on him I doubt it would end well.

My heart melted when the poor kid said I saw a flying robot today and it wanted to kill me (referring to a drone)

I’m glad they got out of Kherson in the end

 

[footyfan1978]

My heart melted when the poor kid said I saw a flying robot today and it wanted to kill me (referring to a drone)

I’m glad they got out of Kherson in the end

You must have had the same reaction as me.
We need more videos like this , just to highlight the human side of this war and not just news clips.
So glad they got out. Seems like just the luck of timing of sister pregnant that had them out of there.
The priest story was harrowing to hear too.

 

[Lethality]

I heard they were leaving Zaporizhia as well. Does this mean they're finally going to leave the NPP?

 

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