Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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If that's the case then these men will be next to useless in the field of battle.

From their point of view they are just going to the field for their own execution, not fight in a battle. They is no incentive or motivation to actually fight.
If they are well down the rabbit hole, it will not matter to them.
 
Putin is a monstrous, evil, fascist who one day woke up and decided he wanted to conquer Ukraine. There was no other reason he did this, than his own insanely evil nature.
Nobody says that he woke up one day and decided this.
 

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Reports that the port of Ust Luga was struck by a drone attack. Ust Luga is on the Gulf of Finland, halfway between St Petersburg and Estonia.

It's not the first time this port has been struck. I remember a strike quite a while ago (a year at least I think), unsure what hit it.

Target seems to be oil storage, however there's claims that a refinery was hit. Ust Luga hosts a port used for export shipping.

 
In the end Putin will get what he wants, I think. Not enough will from Ukraine's allies. Not enough people in Ukraine so war weariness setting in. Sad but I think true.
Apparently Ukraine has launched another series of offensives in Kursk, so not too weary yet.

I also think the paint over the cracks in Russia's economy is starting to peel. I don't think Russia has more than 12 months before their economy starts to force them to negotiate seriously. I don't see Ukraine giving up in the next 12 months, regardless of trump.
 
Russians getting their arsr handed to them in Kursk



Looks like Russians were doing the hard yards through mud in autumn attempting to retake Kursk territory, inc NK cannon fodder.

Now they are tired. Ukranian counter attack over frozen ground sees Ukraine retake Russian gains and then some.

2025 looking a good chance of a Russian collapse.
 

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