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He was decent for 2-3 games in 2022.
Showed some glimpses as a forward at Box Hill last season.
He's been ordinary at BH this season.
Nothing special at all.
Jai Serong has merited more support, yet DGB has 140 pages of discussion on his thread vs 14 pages for Serong.
Good bloke and reliable depth I can get behind but let’s face it Schoey was/is miles ahead of DGB in the looks departmentAny chance he can turn into this era of players Schoey? Good bloke, reliable depth at either end and very good looking?
I like enough of what he brings to the team.
I have not belittled him, nor was I part of the ADHD discussion.Probably because posters like yourself and others, are not in the Jai Serong thread, constantly belittling him, or diagnosing him with medical conditions, all because he hasn’t lived up to lofty expectations.
Let the kid be, if the coaches decide to cut him loose at the end of the year so be it, if the coaches believe that he still has value, and want him to stay, so be it. The people that are working with him, have a far greater understanding of where he is at, than us simple supporters that just want a whipping boy.
You’ve done it twice on the last page before this one.I have not belittled him, nor was I part of the ADHD discussion.
show me.You’ve done it twice in the last two pages.
I have not belittled him, nor was I part of the ADHD discussion.
Never has there been so much energy wasted, by so many, on a player who has shown so little.
Whatever the club does I’m fine with, including delisting.
Here you go. You’ve done it twice on the last page before this one.He’s done nothing.
If he’s was a mid round pick nobody would care.
This was the moment of hope for me.Box Hill Coach Zane Littlejohn has reviewed the performances of every AFL listed Hawk following their recent win against the Sandringham Zebras.
Denver Grainger-Barras (5 goals, 11 disposals, 6 marks)
"The discussion ahead of the game was around keeping Denver forward and growing that area of his game, and he was able to contribute really well in the front half. He had some really good contested marking moments, he took three contested marks inside 50 which is a great reward. What we know with Denver is he is a beautiful kick of the footy so he was able to make sure he made the most of those opportunities he got. He'll continue to work on his craft as a forward and finding other avenues, rather than just the contested marking. He provides unbelievable energy. We love his competitiveness and what he's able to give."
`Here you go. You’ve done it twice on the last page before this one.
They are both examples of me criticising the obsession people have with a guy who has objectively underperformed since being drafted.Here you go. You’ve done it twice on the last page before this one.
Why are you on here? Never has there been so much energy wasted, by so many, reading a poster that offers so little.`
They are both examples of me criticising the obsession people have with a guy who has objectively underperformed since being drafted.
Football criticism of a footballer is fair game, no?
I have not resorted to personal abuse or remarks of that nature.
It's never been my style.
SMH - you can't even see you are belittling him.`
They are both examples of me criticising the obsession people have with a guy who has objectively underperformed since being drafted.
Football criticism of a footballer is fair game, no?
I have not resorted to personal abuse or remarks of that nature.
It's never been my style.
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Let the kid be, if the coaches decide to cut him loose at the end of the year so be it, if the coaches believe that he still has value, and want him to stay, so be it.
Can’t be stuffed, ‘Little Flinch’ getting involved in the continued belittling of a hawthorn player.Come on Big Tony, you can do better after 5 posts on here than just a simple downvote.
Explain what you disagree with on my above post.
Can’t be stuffed, ‘Little Flinch’ getting involved in the continued belittling of a hawthorn player.
Last comment from me, other than disagreeing with the negativity. Bye.
What are you doing on here if you can't be stuffed?
Disagreeing with negativity......by offering nothing but negativity.
Nice.
What Big Tony is doing on this forum and any poster and how many posts they have posted is irrelevant. They have offered they’re opinion and if you don’t understand it by now then I think you need to have a bex and a lie down.
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settle down ....it wasn't that horrendous it's just his/her opinion on the matter
"Never has there been so much energy wasted, by so many, on a player who has shown so little."
It was his opinion and it was horrendous. A hawthorn hater couldn't have done any better. If the club puts energy and time into one of it's own, i back the club. He's basically calling the club idiots and fools for investing their time in a player.
And, yes, he's entitled to have his opinion. I gave my opinion on his. You can like his opinion as much as you want.
Is it just Denver we can't discuss, or be unimpressed by....?
The overreaction to a poster expressing his complete lack of belief in a player is ridiculous.
It's done over and over again with players at our Club, with some being ok for shit cannery, and others not.
And often, very often, those players drop from our list in no short order.
DGB's draft pick number should have ZERO to do with any assessment on his football characteristics and abilities, and people can be right or wrong on their estimation of his worth as a player.
Think it's dumb on an opinion-not-facts discussion board to tell a poster he can't share his opinion on a players playing ability.
Not his character, we're not talking character here. We're talking football ability.
I mean, we're not talking about his personal worth as a human being here. We're talking football ability.
THUS FAR, the Chadmeister is entirely correct.
Spot on. It's tiresome. And pretty much the same on the autopsy thread when we lose.There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism of a player. It does however get monotonous when the same posters are bumping this thread, when ever the stats sheet doesn’t flatter him, or he has a brain fade, or doesn’t play to their expectations. Yet remain silent on the good moments he does have. If constructive criticism is the defence of being biased, then it is no longer being constructive, it’s just being biased. In order to be constructive, the views has to be balanced, which for the most part currently it’s not.
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism of a player. It does however get monotonous when the same posters are bumping this thread, when ever the stats sheet doesn’t flatter him, or he has a brain fade, or doesn’t play to their expectations. Yet remain silent on the good moments he does have. If constructive criticism is the defence of being biased, then it is no longer being constructive, it’s just being biased. In order to be constructive, the views has to be balanced, which for the most part currently it’s not.
I never told him, he can’t share his opinion, he is entitled to share his opinion. Just like others can share theirs. So I think your last paragraph is a moot point, despite your opinion that it is dumb.
While yourself and Cad may agree with each others opinion on DGB, I just happen to disagree, as while DGB has done some not so great/good things, he has also has done some good/great things as well.
Yeah, everytime he did it at VFL last year it went well. At AFL level he struggled at times, I think Dear and Gunston have struggled in that role just as much this year too in some games. He was good forward against Melbourne last year too.This was the moment of hope for me.
He looks much better as a forward than a defender.
Not sure why we abandoned that experiment.
Yeah, everytime he did it at VFL last year it went well. At AFL level he struggled at times, I think Dear and Gunston have struggled in that role just as much this year too in some games. He was good forward against Melbourne last year too.
I still think he can be a good AFL player, but as a defender at Hawthorn, i'm not seeing who he could go past. Sicily, Scrimshaw and Weddle are ahead for the medium/3rd tall and i don't think he's going to be a gorila full back so Blank, Frost, Serong, Phillips hold those roles. There is probably a few sides that don't have many in this role that he could get a game at though. If you look at us, GWS and swans I think it's really the future of the defence these hybrid players with good disposal and speed who can play tall and small as opposed to 2 talls 3 smalls and a medium. Most sides are playing multiple medium talls.
However there is a spot for him forward with Lewis out and gunston unable to play every week.