West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[Freomaniac]

North threw money at the likes of Higgins, Dal Santo etc to top up for a flag push when they were contending in the mid 2010s (they made a prelim in 2015 and made finals in 2016). That took list spots away from younger players they could have developed.

So again i'm failing to see why they should be given special exemptions? Shouldn't the same rules apply to all?

I don't blame North Melbourne doing that in 2014-6. No issues getting experienced players for a finals push or flag push.

2014: North won 2 finals and lost in a preliminary final

2015: North Melbourne finished 5th-8th again and lost in the preliminary final against West coast.

2016: north got 8th got smashed by crows in the Elim final at Adelaide oval.

As a long suffering Freo fan, I would take what North Melbourne achieved in 2014-6 right now with freos currently young squad

 

[Bojan KantKick]

There is nothing stopping West Coast applying for assistance in whatever form they deem fit.

 

[WeaponX]

There is nothing stopping West Coast applying for assistance in whatever form they deem fit.

I'd like to see a more long term benefit for the club, because mostly the good Victorian players always return home but the reverse doesn't happen with WA talent like Buddy, Cripps ect..we need to be able to secure the Elite WA talent from WA with a "Top Tier" priority pick which still adds points to our overall draft score.

 

[blueboy25]

I'd like to see a more long term benefit for the club, because mostly the good Victorian players always return home but the reverse doesn't happen with WA talent like Buddy, Cripps ect..we need to be able to secure the Elite WA talent from WA with a "Top Tier" priority pick which still adds points to our overall draft score.

Which good victorian players have left West Coast to head home? Chris Judd was one but you got more than fairly compensated for it.

Pretty sure your two best players on the weekend returned back to WA after getting drafted by Vic clubs.

There was also a very decent high draft pick leave Melbourne to head back to Perth last year after only a couple of years in Vic.....goes by the name of Luke Jackson......tell me again how WA talent doesn't return back home.

 

[bzparkes]

There is nothing stopping West Coast applying for assistance in whatever form they deem fit.

Yes, there is.

Begging the AFL for assistance sends the message to the playing group that they are utter shite, so they just end up turning up, simply to collect a paycheck.

The new draftees won't feel this but the players who have been there 3+ years will, especially if the club is doing dodgy stuff such as playing players out of position, resting players who don't need it, etc.

If the management of your club doesn't want to win, why should the players even care?

Hawthorn's a great example. Poor results the past few years and started the year terribly. Fought through it and have now beaten a number of finalists, which include premiership fancies Collingwood.

That'll do massive wonders for their culture moving forward, because the players will now believe that they belong in the big league and can compete with the best.

 

[Philhawk]

It's ok, the NM supporters frothing over a post from 14 years ago are too stupid to realise that I said I still didn't want to lose to get a PP, even though we were entitled to one under the rules of the time.

Meanwhile, over on their board they're shitting their collective jimmies over the prospect of beating Gold Coast

It's little wonder their team's been so useless for the better part of 20 years and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.

He specialises in trying to dig through posts from over 10 years ago as some kind of attempted 'gotcha' moment.

Wonder if any of his fellow North fans have changed their own minds about priority picks over the years. Care to give us their views for balance, big_e ?

 

[Zevon]

Folks, friendly reminder that pulling screenshots of posts from other threads/boards or quoting posts from other threads/boards (particularly when they’re nearly 15 years old) isn’t acceptable here.

Cheers, Zev

 

[WeaponX]

Which good victorian players have left West Coast to head home? Chris Judd was one but you got more than fairly compensated for it.

Pretty sure your two best players on the weekend returned back to WA after getting drafted by Vic clubs.

There was also a very decent high draft pick leave Melbourne to head back to Perth last year after only a couple of years in Vic.....goes by the name of Luke Jackson......tell me again how WA talent doesn't return back home.

I'll up you Jeremy Cameron, Tom Lynch, Trelor, Shiels, Hoskin-Elliot, Cerra, Adams, McStay, Crisp and the list is too numerous to count. That massive perk has to be countered.

 

[blueboy25]

I'll up you Jeremy Cameron, Tom Lynch, Trelor, Shiels, Hoskin-Elliot, Cerra, Adams, McStay, Crisp and the list is too numerous to count. That massive perk has to be countered.

I'll ask again....apart from Chris Judd which good player from West Coast has gone back to Vic in the last 10 years.

Chad Morrison isn't an example.

 

[bzparkes]

I'll ask again....apart from Chris Judd which good player from West Coast has gone back to Vic in the last 10 years.

Chad Morrison isn't an example.

None.

Not sure what he's on about.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Yes, there is.

Begging the AFL for assistance sends the message to the playing group that they are utter shite, so they just end up turning up, simply to collect a paycheck.

The new draftees won't feel this but the players who have been there 3+ years will, especially if the club is doing dodgy stuff such as playing players out of position, resting players who don't need it, etc.

If the management of your club doesn't want to win, why should the players even care?

Hawthorn's a great example. Poor results the past few years and started the year terribly. Fought through it and have now beaten a number of finalists, which include premiership fancies Collingwood.

That'll do massive wonders for their culture moving forward, because the players will now believe that they belong in the big league and can compete with the best.

So you agree then. There is nothing to stop West Coast or any other club requesting assistance. Hypothetical knock on effects of doing so does not prevent clubs from lodging applications to the AFL.

 

[bzparkes]

So you agree then. There is nothing to stop West Coast or any other club requesting assistance. Hypothetical knock on effects of doing so does not prevent clubs from lodging applications to the AFL.

The only clubs that I can think of, who actually went to the AFL asking for assistance, are Melbourne, GC and North.

The others received assistance in an era(long ended) where clubs received a PP based on a 2 year W/L record.

I don't want my club to go to the AFL and ask for draft assistance because I expect them to be able to get themselves out of the mess they're currently in.

 

[WeaponX]

I'll ask again....apart from Chris Judd which good player from West Coast has gone back to Vic in the last 10 years.

Chad Morrison isn't an example.

Fraser Gehrig is the only other decent West Coast Player to leave our club in our history, we can hang onto our players unlike Freo.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Nobody's asking for a PP mate.

WCE aren't a beggar club.

Not saying they are. Even as someone who hated them growing up (WA born Sydney supporter) I respect the organization immensely, aside from the drug saga but that’s a blip in comparison to the club history.

The Eagles will, unfortunately for me, never be too far away from success and 2018 proved that again.


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[Freomaniac]

Priority picks shouldn’t be a consideration unless a club has:

Been in a premiership drought for 18 or more years (the competition is set up obviously to at least allow for this) AND their list is a shambles like West Coasts is now OR a major unforeseen event happens (team altering and out of their control).

i guess that rules the dockers out lol

 

[Freomaniac]

Meanwhile, Northern academies

thats not an issue for me personally...

I dont mind Academys for the Queenland and NSW clubs.

Those clubs dont have a strong state league to get decent talent like the WAFL, SANFL and VFL.

GWS and Gold Coast dont have father son picks either

 

[Freomaniac]

1 is greater than 0 for those south of the river playing at home.

Best to leave Freo out of any conversations regarding success, you won’t win many (though you are used to that).

now you are just getting nasty lol

 

[Freomaniac]

West Coast have been one of the more successful clubs in the AFL era.

Making finals 24 times in 34 years (including this year)

7 Grand Finals winning 4 premierships.

Compare that to their state rival
Fremantle
Made finals 8 times (maybe 9 this year) out of 29 years.

1 grand final winning 0 premierships.

West Coast currently are in a bad spot, but they are not a club that needs assistance

Bingo.....

Eagles finals runs since 1987....

- 1988

- 1990-99. Grand finals in 1991,1992, and 1994. flags in 1992 and 1994.

- 2002-07. grand finals in 2005 and 2006. flag in 2006.

- 2011-12

- 2015-20. grand finals in 2015 and 2018. flag in 2018.

Now... lets compare that to Freo since 1995.

Dockers finals run....

- 2003

- 2006

- 2010

- 2012-15. grand final in 2013.

- 2022.

Its not the lack of flags that hurt me personally, its the lack of back to back finals that hurt more.

I would of loved freo back then to haave made finals in 200 and 2021 specifically. that means back to back finals in 2005-6 and 2021-22. that might not mean a lot to non freo fans, it would of meant a lot to me.

 

[Freomaniac]

Maybe we should resort to Carlton tactics ? imagine the flood of players to the West if we offered paper bags full of money ?

Do it. Treat your players well mate.

I wished my club did the same lol

 

[HTPunter]

I’ve long been vehemently against any priority picks/assistance - at most I don’t think there’s much harm in an extra couple of rookie spots, but certainly no need for first round picks.

However, seeing how upset Chris Scott

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was about it now has put me in favour of clubs getting them. Anything to set the whingy **** off.

 

[Deepthroat]

From the first post:

The mess of the Eagles list is of their own making, and they need to tough it out and rebuild like the rest of us, under no circumstances should they get any kind of draft or salary cap assistance.

Which list isn't of a club's making?

Unless a club has been negatively impacted by something outside their control, then it is of their making.

Who has been affected by something outside of their control?

 

[Sphynx]

I'd have absolutely no issues with the Weagles applying for PP's, but they still have a few years to go.

 

[kranky al]

Because you won a flag 5 years ago, and threw the kitchen sink at another one, which put you in this mess.

No one to blame but yourselves, suck it up.

Well that and career ending concussions to a couple of players.


But I’m pretty meh about priority picks - getting them means you’ve been shit for too long. Id rather start the climb again.

Culture >>> tumbleweeds >>> draft picks.

 

[garlic munchers]

I'd have absolutely no issues with the Weagles applying for PP's, but they still have a few years to go.

Do they?

5 wins in 2 years with a most recent % of 53.

Say they win 8 in 3 years then that is historically bad by AFL standards and flags AFL intervention time.

Also keep in mind the Eagles fund a sizeable portion of WA footy, so the pain inflicted on WC as the profit drops off, directly correlates into reduced funding for grass roots footy.

Eagles being a basket case after 3 years with no guarantee of not being there again, will be a compelling agreement for PPs.

 

[r_boy]

Personally they should be in line for something at some stage. Not sure when or what.

You can't expect teams to be utterly uncompetitive for 5+ years before they get out of the bottom 2 that's insane!