West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[ghostbat12]

West Coast have the third youngest list after North and Hawthorn, and the Eagle/Hawk teams this weekend are only four months and six games played apart (25yr vs 24yr 8m; 87gm vs 81gm).

Stats stats. What’s the mean value? Who says that average age is more appropriate.

 

[Mr north man]

Stats stats. What’s the mean value? Who says that average age is more appropriate.

Well we got the priorty pick last year and West Coast should get it this year but the problem North got is we won the last round game against the Suns we should have lost then maybe we would got maybe another priority.
But in all seriousness think the AFL will look after you as they need the Eagles up and Flying as they don’t give a F:ck about us and word going around is North will be taken out of Good Friday game and will be replaced by with Essendon or Collingwood on that day and game moved to the MCG.
As a North supporter I”ll be pissed off but more people will attend and more $$$ for the kids Hospital which is more important as the kids need the $$$.
I’m hoping either the Eagles or Dockers pitch the same idea for the Kids Hospital in Perth to raise $$$ for them .

 

[ghostbat12]

Well we got the priorty pick last year and West Coast should get it this year but the problem North got is we won the last round game against the Suns we should have lost then maybe we would got maybe another priority.
But in all seriousness think the AFL will look after you as they need the Eagles up and Flying as they don’t give a F:ck about us and word going around is North will be taken out of Good Friday game and will be replaced by with Essendon or Collingwood on that day and game moved to the MCG.
As a North supporter I”ll be pissed off but more people will attend and more $$$ for the kids Hospital which is more important as the kids need the $$$.
I’m hoping either the Eagles or Dockers pitch the same idea for the Kids Hospital in Perth to raise $$$ for them .

We could build a hospital! But we can’t. We have to provide subsidies to some other afl clubs instead.

You know how it goes…don’t kill the golden goose…

 

[random260]

It's a done deal fellas all the big vic king pins are on board.

Eddie
Healey
Kane Cornes
Hutchy


I'd like a blank check as to what we get. There's no reason why afl wouldn't come to us like they did with GCS. They have two draft pools to get this right

North assistance is a template of what doesn't work. GCS assistance is a better example of working.

To all the haters don't worry we will pay you back with our sizeable welfare payments

 

[Obeanie1]

It's a done deal fellas all the big vic king pins are on board.

Eddie
Healey
Kane Cornes
Hutchy


I'd like a blank check as to what we get. There's no reason why afl wouldn't come to us like they did with GCS. They have two draft pools to get this right

North assistance is a template of what doesn't work. GCS assistance is a better example of working.

To all the haters don't worry we will pay you back with our sizeable welfare payments

Dermott agreed with Healy as well.

If the Vic media are supporting some form of assistance that is the battle half won.

Suppose they dont enjoy calling one sided floggings any more than we do watching them. From clubs loaded with academy talent and father sons who have benefited for years with AFL assistance and still continue getting it.

 

[Obeanie1]

Touche, Quaynor was mentioned in another post.

You didn't read what I said about Daicos. Collingwood traded the future first because they knew how special the kid was. If he was in the open draft, the Pies would have kept pick 2 and Daicos would have been theirs, since North rated Horne-Francis higher.

A very good argument can be made that the Pies would have landed Moore at 9 regardless, for reasons already mentioned. Not sure what you mean at the end of that paragraph either, as Moore was never considered a #1 threat nor would he be retaken at #1 now.

Thank you for acknowledging that Collingwood operate in the widest T/D market in the league, with 9 competitors in their state trying to acquire players as opposed to one rival out west. The Eagles clearly had no issues acquiring talent when they were up the ladder.

Collingwood do not attract talent and beat other clubs to their signature. Tell me which other clubs were vying for Crisp, Mitchell, Frampton, Cameron, Lipinski, even Hill and Howe. Exceptional talent ID allowed the Pies to regenerate - not rebuild - their list to win a flag after 2018. If any other club came to the table for a player like Mitchell, they'd have had a good crack, since the Pies were tied up in several other trades and no guarantee to even land him.

I know it's not fun watching your side down the bottom, but once you find your rhythm, you'll have more Cripps, Jettas, Reddens, Yeos, Vardys and Kennedys coming to your club.

Lol. Sure the Pies are shaking in their boots they compete against North and other minow clubs in Melbourne.

Collingwood isnt a big Vic club that attracts top players at all? Like Tom Mitchell and Bobby Hill are both WA lads but where did they ask to be traded to?

Where did Harley say he wouldnt mind going if he had a choice? Big Melbourne clubs with big crowds and games was the answer.

O'Mera, another gun WA player, asked to be traded to? Hawthorn, a big Melbourne club. He only got to Freo as a salary dump.

If you think Collingwood doesnt hold a natural advantage in father sons and as a destination club you are trolling. An advantage the WA clubs arent even close to matching. Varcoe confirmed he was pitched a bigger deal to move to the Eagles but chose Collingwood instead, another example. There are many more.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

It's a done deal fellas all the big vic king pins are on board.

Eddie
Healey
Kane Cornes
Hutchy


I'd like a blank check as to what we get. There's no reason why afl wouldn't come to us like they did with GCS. They have two draft pools to get this right

North assistance is a template of what doesn't work. GCS assistance is a better example of working.

To all the haters don't worry we will pay you back with our sizeable welfare payments

GC assistance package hasn’t got them anywhere? It’s been 5 years since they received their swag of picks and they still haven’t made a finals series. Of course that will change very soon, but the aim should be to remove WCE from their current rut, not hand them a super team in 7 years time.

Extra list spots and picks that must be traded is the best way to go about it if the AFL must do these assistance packages.

 

[Freomaniac]

And how would that teach us humility?

I would have thought that north being near bottom for so long would teach them appreciation for heavy lifting other clubs do to provide them with welfare.

So sounds like being on bottom doesn’t teach anyone anything.

Are you happy seeing west coast eaglesin their current situation? Given the choice for 2024 and 2025 you had to choose one of 2 options...

Option 1: Getting just 1 or 2 wins this season and next next season? you get pick 1.

Option 2: Getting or happy seeing west coast finish 16th with 5 or 6 or 7 wins? You get pick 3.

I know which option I rather have.

I would rather avoid the spoon at all costs and get 5 or 6 or 7 wins. Give some hope the the fans.

 

[Sphynx]

My sense is the club with the player usually comes off better in trades.

Freo lost Cerra, got Amiss.

North lost JHF got a bounty of picks that included helping the get sheezel
And Wardlaw.

3 year contracts help, and I think Harley is genuinely wanting to make a crack of it. Not sure JHf really did.

Hard road ahead. Let’s see how it works out.

We didn't get a bounty of picks, we got reamed because he announced he was leaving at 10:00pm the night before trade week and blindsided the club.

We traded JHF & Cadman for Wardlaw, Sheezel and Goad.

People forget that the #1 pick (Cadman) was included in the deal.

 

[Obeanie1]

A counter to that:

- Have Collingwood avoided the drop? The natural rhythm of their list build might suggest they may be in for the drop soon and last year was a last hurrah. Sure, some of their recent pick will probably see them avoid an Eagles/Roos type drop, but they are not on the cusp of a dynasty.

- Are you saying you’d like to mimic the Dogs? Perpetually around the 6th - 10th level. Sure, they snagged a flag but that was a freak occurrence.

- GWS are where they should be 11-12 years after entering the comp with an incredible set of start up concessions. The only reason we’re not talking dynasty here is they hung onto Cameron for far too long.

The fact is the Eagles, North and Hawks have all stuffed their lists - catastrophically so. Just like the Blues, Demons and Saints did in the early 2010s - but all of them clawed their way back without assistance.

Was the draft as compromised in 2010? No.

Was the AFL handing out bucket loads of assistance to teams playing finals in 2010? No.

The AFL has created a mess. And now they cant stop it. They keep feeding assistance to teams that simply do not need it now. Do you agree or disagree?

The Bulldogs list is overflowing with talent. So many quality talls they cant play them all. Lobb and McRae both playing VFL. They won a flag and then received a #1 academy pick in JUH and multiple father sons. Did the Dogs deserve that assistance after winning a flag not long ago?

The Swans look like landing another top 10 academy kid this draft. Do they still need assistance? They are still getting it.

You point at an era 14 years ago that is very different to now.

I will keep repeating myself. Happy to get no assistance at all. As long as clubs ahead of the Eagles especially tthose playing finals all stop getting assistance. No academy kids. No father son priority access. No compo picks. If the basket case team in 18th getting flogged every week gets no assistance fine. No club gets assistance. Fair?

 

[Freomaniac]

Worst side in the modern AFL era. Club and fanbase in complete denial. Still blaming injuries and umpires which has now been happening for 3 seasons.

The club and Simmo completely misread the list after 2018 and made huge mistakes. Simmo needs to go.

They have got very few Injuries.

They have less Injuries than what Freo had in 2016 when they were 9-10, ended up 4 wins and 18 losses.

Just ask Keys lol

 

[Freomaniac]

Was the draft as compromised in 2010? No.

Was the AFL handing out bucket loads of assistance to teams playing finals in 2010? No.

The AFL has created a mess. And now they cant stop it. They keep feeding assistance to teams that simply do not need it now. Do you agree or disagree?

The Bulldogs list is overflowing with talent. So many quality talls they cant play them all. Lobb and McRae both playing VFL. They won a flag and then received a #1 academy pick in JUH and multiple father sons. Did the Dogs deserve that assistance after winning a flag not long ago?

The Swans look like landing another top 10 academy kid this draft. Do they still need assistance? They are still getting it.

You point at an era 14 years ago that is very different to now.

I will keep repeating myself. Happy to get no assistance at all. As long as clubs playing finals all stop getting assistance. No academy kids. No father son priority access. No compo picks. If the basket case team in 18th getting flogged every week gets no assistance fine. No club gets assistance. Fair?

Funny thing is west coast drafted well in that 2010 draft.

Also Freo finished bottom 6 in 2011, dockers 1st pick was like pick 16 due to GWS picks.

I love how the eagles fans such as you are complaining about NGA picks or swans academy picks.

Do I really give a stuff if swans use pick 10 on academy kids? Nope.

bzparkes and all those other eagles fans are pissing and moaning about eagles 2nd rounder being pushed back to pick 30 or 35.

It's father son picks or academy picks that are the bids. Not local WAFL talent.

Eagles have a next generation academy like every other club.

I am sure the eagles can back their recruitment staff to get some teenage WAFL talent.

 

[Obeanie1]

GC assistance package hasn’t got them anywhere? It’s been 5 years since they received their swag of picks and they still haven’t made a finals series. Of course that will change very soon, but the aim should be to remove WCE from their current rut, not hand them a super team in 7 years time.

Extra list spots and picks that must be traded is the best way to go about it if the AFL must do these assistance packages.

Good post.

Picks that must be traded tick. Gets mature players in to stop the floggings. But they likely wont be around in 5 years when all the kids start peaking. A future 2nd and future 3rd that must be traded for players, no need for first round picks.

Extra rookie spots so they can retain a couple more mature players to stop the floggings but still keep rebuilding. Does not affect other sides at all.

Access to accademy kids from pick 20. Then when the Eagles pick 19 gets diluted to 30 they can use that pick on a kid closer to where their natural 2nd rounder would fall.

So two future picks in the 20's and 40's. Too much to ask for?

 

[Freomaniac]

Bumping my own post, but they've looked worse as the season has gone on, not better.

Draft assistance looking extremely likely at the end of this season.

Thats normal for any young side or a side that is rebuilding.

Go look at freos 2017 season. They won 8 games. 6 of those wins came in the 1st 10 games.

Then injuries to older players came in. Those old and experienced players are replaced with kids.

Then the heavy defeats came in. Back to back 104 point losses to swans and tigers.

Dockers won 2 games out of their last 12 in 2017.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Good post.

Picks that must be traded tick. Gets mature players in to stop the floggings. But they likely wont be around in 5 years when all the kids start peaking. A future 2nd and future 3rd that must be traded for players, no need for first round picks.

Extra rookie spots so they can retain a couple more mature players to stop the floggings but still keep rebuilding. Does not affect other sides at all.

Access to accademy kids from pick 20. Then when the Eagles pick 19 gets diluted to 30 they can use that pick on a kid closer to where their natural 2nd rounder would fall.

So two future picks in the 20's and 40's. Too much to ask for?

Yeah I don’t mind relaxing academy rules either.

Mainly you’re after assistance that won’t effect other rebuilding sides and will aid immediate improvement.

 

[bzparkes]

Yeah I don’t mind relaxing academy rules either.

Mainly you’re after assistance that won’t effect other rebuilding sides and will aid immediate improvement.

Pretty much.

You just cause problems for other rebuilding side otherwise, which just exacerbates the problem to begin with.

 

[Obeanie1]

Well Caro Wilson has spoken.

The Eagles are the wealthiest club in the comp so they should use their money to improve. Not get assistance.

Um Caro. Have you heard of the salary cap? And the football department soft cap. Rules brought in to ensure rich clubs do not hold unfair advantages over less wealthy clubs. The AFL brought in many equalisation policies that stop what Caro is suggesting the Eagles should do.

So Caro exactly how doea all that money get the Eagles talent? Is Caro suggesting brown paper bag payments under the table? Or just spend more money, get taxed 150% and add some more coaches. Coaches dont play Caro. They dont run out there and win games and they can only coach the players the club is allowed to draft or trade in.

The club is not allowed to use all their extra money to bring in players. If they could they would be the Manchester United of AFL and never need to rebuild.

Wilson makes some seriously dumb statements at times. Here's another one.

 

[ghostbat12]

Are you happy seeing west coast eaglesin their current situation? Given the choice for 2024 and 2025 you had to choose one of 2 options...

Option 1: Getting just 1 or 2 wins this season and next next season? you get pick 1.

Option 2: Getting or happy seeing west coast finish 16th with 5 or 6 or 7 wins? You get pick 3.

I know which option I rather have.

I would rather avoid the spoon at all costs and get 5 or 6 or 7 wins. Give some hope the the fans.

I personally don’t care. Given amount of silverware, we are a robust bunch and if you are going to be bad, you may as well finish last. Would be nice to be more competitive but a few wins doesn’t make a season.

Only freo fans fear being labelled worst team in Australia. Even when people pick at eagles, it’s really deep fear and knowledge that really we can and will rise from ashes.

 

[danster168]

bzparkes and that's why you should've split the picks when you had the chance. Reid has been disappointing thus far. You could've sped up your development by drafting 2 players.

Ginbey has also been struggling.

 

[bzparkes]

bzparkes and that's why you should've split the picks when you had the chance. Reid has been disappointing thus far. You could've sped up your development by drafting 2 players.

Ginbey has also been struggling.

This is ****ing dumb.

3 games into Reid's career.

Only McKercher is looking the goods out of the bottom team's draftees, as everyone expected.

Pull your head out of your backside please.

 

[JackOutback]

bzparkes and that's why you should've split the picks when you had the chance. Reid has been disappointing thus far. You could've sped up your development by drafting 2 players.

Ginbey has also been struggling.

I know Melbourne realllllllllly wanted Reid, but this is silly. We traded down for an extra pick in 2021, split pick 2 in 2022, may very well split the pick in 2024, but apparently taking the undisputed gun in 2023 is what's holding us back Maybe if the draft wasn't so compromised and Jed Walter was available at number 2, we would have split the pick, but it wasn't because other clubs were being offered assistance.

Do you really think we'd be doing better if we had Dan Curtin, James Leake and Darcy Wilson on the list instead of Reid?

 

[VinnieB]

If North were able to continually get draft concessions, there's no reason why the West Coast shouldn't if they continue to be uncompetitive.

 

[danster168]

I know Melbourne realllllllllly wanted Reid, but this is silly. We traded down for an extra pick in 2021, split pick 2 in 2022, may very well split the pick in 2024, but apparently taking the undisputed gun in 2023 is what's holding us back Maybe if the draft wasn't so compromised and Jed Walter was available at number 2, we would have split the pick, but it wasn't because other clubs were being offered assistance.

Do you really think we'd be doing better if we had Dan Curtin, James Leake and Darcy Wilson on the list instead of Reid?

How about Duursma and Windsor? I think yes. Much better off than 1 Reid.

 

[danster168]

This is ******* dumb.

3 games into Reid's career.

Only McKercher is looking the goods out of the bottom team's draftees, as everyone expected.

Pull your head out of your backside please.

Tell me you haven't been underwhelmed though? All of this talk about him being a Ferrari etc. Reid will be a good player, but the odds of him being the best of this draft is stacked against him, just like every other #1 draft pick.

 

[bzparkes]

Tell me you haven't been underwhelmed though? All of this talk about him being a Ferrari etc. Reid will be a good player, but the odds of him being the best of this draft is stacked against him, just like every other #1 draft pick.

I was impressed by his first 2 games and like most on the weekend, he had a difficult day at the office.

I'm not some numpty expecting an 18 year to light it up every game in their first season, playing as a primary mid in the worst side the AFL has seen.

Nobody else from the top 10 has particularly stood out yet either.