West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[Obeanie1]

‘Self-inflicted incompetence’: Rival clubs fume as basketcase Eagles ‘$1.01’ to get AFL handout

‘Self-inflicted incompetence’: Rival clubs fume as basketcase Eagles ‘$1.01’ to get AFL handout

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"self inflicted incompetence" ............. such an accurate assessment.

Why does the AFL keep rewarding clubs for unprofessional management ??

Time for priority picks to be banned completely forcing clubs to be run better and if they do go off the rails, then they have to dig themselves back out of the hole.

PP's penalise all of the other clubs in the competition as well.

What does priority father son access and academy access do for every other club?

The same thing. Every year. Often benefiting teams playing finals and dissadvantaging teams struggling to rebuild.

How posters dont get this is astounding.

Now as for self inflicted. North did the opposite of the Eagles, they gutted their list on purpose to finish last and top up with high draft picks. Brought in cheap role players. It failed and the AFL assisted with PP's due to so many other clubs also getting assistance.

Now Eagles went the other way, tried to pinch a 2nd flag and keep the group together. How dare they try and win another flag, thats just incompetence! Really?

So it didnt work out. Tough t***ies. But to label it self inflicted incompetence is just plain dumb. When you get to the top you try and win more than once. It takes 10 years to climb the mountain and make a GF never mind win one. And the nuffy armchair experts say they should have traded players out.

Its not so much as how a club is struggling its all the BS assistance being handed out to others who are not struggling and do not need priority access but still get it. THAT seriously hinders bottom clubs rebuilding. Especially when players leave rebuilding sides to chase success at the strongest teams.

 

[big_e]

Would anyone be against Eagles getting early access to Malaki Champion as our compensation. By that I mean bidding our 2nd rounder + 3rd rounder to match any bid which he will probably get in the top 5 somewhere

Yes. That would require the AFL to change its rules for the benefit of one club.

They rejected the bid by North Melbourne to access Ryley Sanders in the same way last year - which was the right decision, fwiw - and they should reject any bid by West Coast to do the same thing with your guy.

 

[Deepthroat]

Yes. That would require the AFL to change its rules for the benefit of one club.

They rejected the bid by North Melbourne to access Ryley Sanders in the same way last year - which was the right decision, fwiw - and they should reject any bid by West Coast to do the same thing with your guy.

The irony of North fans blocking any form of assistance....

 

[dazbroncos]

No PP if Flag in last 10 years.

Simples.

GO Catters

 

[Deepthroat]

No PP if Flag in last 10 years.

Simples.

GO Catters

In a soon-to-be 19 team comp, 10 years isn't massive.

 

[Obeanie1]

Stop your incessant and juvenile whining, you are embarrassing yourself and the other level-headed Eagles supporters also in this thread.

If you can't understand the premise that I, and many other posters have written about previously then we can't help you.

For the record, I have never ever been in favour of priority picks and never will. Scrap the whole thing and force clubs to run themselves better, not reward mediocrity.

Priority picks are one method used by the AFL to equalise the mess they have created in allowing priority father son and academy access.

Not all teams have equal priority access to father sons and academy kids.

So to jump up and down shouting no more priority picks is perfectly fine. If you also say no more father sons and no more priority access to academy kids.

You cant continue givingdraft assistance in FS and academy access for some teams and give nothing to teams struggling to rebuild. Fair?

 

[LordLucifer]

What does priority father son access and academy access do for every other club?

The same thing. Every year. Often benefiting teams playing finals and dissadvantaging teams struggling to rebuild.

How posters dont get this is astounding.

Now as for self inflicted. North did the opposite of the Eagles, they gutted their list on purpose to finish last and top up with high draft picks. Brought in cheap role players. It failed and the AFL assisted with PP's due to so many other clubs also getting assistance.

Now Eagles went the other way, tried to pinch a 2nd flag and keep the group together. How dare they try and win another flag, thats just incompetence! Really?

So it didnt work out. Tough t***ies. But to label it self inflicted incompetence is just plain dumb. When you get to the top you try and win more than once. It takes 10 years to climb the mountain and make a GF never mind win one. And the nuffy armchair experts say they should have traded players out.

Its not so much as how a club is struggling its all the BS assistance being handed out to others who are not struggling and do not need priority access but still get it. THAT seruously hinders bottom clubs rebuilding. Especially when players leave rebyilding sides to chade success at the strongest teams.

And therein lies the big problem.

Clubs get rewarded for crap management instead of being made to ride it out and make better decisions.

 

[Obeanie1]

No PP if Flag in last 10 years.

Simples.

GO Catters

No more father sons if team wins a flag in last 10 years.

Bye bye Catters!

 

[LordLucifer]

Priority picks are one method used by the AFL to equalise the mess they have created in allowing priority father son and academy access.

Not all teams have equal priority access to father sons and academy kids.

So to jump up and down shouting no more priority picks is perfectly fine. If you also say no more father sons and no more priority access to academy kids.

You cant continue givingdraft assistance in FS and academy access for some teams and give nothing to teams struggling to rebuild. Fair?

The Academy stuff is a complete and utter joke and has to go !!

 

[Obeanie1]

And therein lies the big problem.

Clubs get rewarded for crap management instead of being made to ride it out and make better decisions.

No the problem is teams struggling to rebuild get massively dissadvantaged by other AFL assistance going to teams playing finals. How can they catch up.

You keep ignoring this fact.

 

[bzparkes]

No PP if Flag in last 10 years.

Simples.

GO Catters

I don't think you have any clue as to what PPs are for...

 

[chaddy22]

Yes. That would require the AFL to change its rules for the benefit of one club.

They rejected the bid by North Melbourne to access Ryley Sanders in the same way last year - which was the right decision, fwiw - and they should reject any bid by West Coast to do the same thing with your guy.

There was a good reason why it was rejected last year. Sanders was always going to be a top ten draft pick and when they were not allowed to get access to him they didn't draft him even though they had two round picks that could have got him.

Champion is different story as he will most likely not be top 20. I think most eagles and dockers fans think either club should be ablet o access W.A . academy boys if they don't go in the first round. Last year both teams missed on players who went after the first round and didn't last to pick 40.

 

[dazbroncos]

No more father sons if team wins a flag in last 10 years.

Bye bye Catters!

we aint asking for F/S.... they just happen.

A PP is a request for help b/c of a truly shit set of management decisions and selections that left the club in the dumpster with more $$ than anyone else in the process and you still cant fix it.

Apples and oranges but well mixed up.

GO Catters

 

[big_e]

The irony of North fans blocking any form of assistance....

I'm not. I've said repeatedly in this thread that West Coast should apply for priority picks. The system is there, just use it.

 

[big_e]

There was a good reason why it was rejected last year. Sanders was always going to be a top ten draft pick and when they were not allowed to get access to him they didn't draft him even though they had two round picks that could have got him.

Champion is different story as he will most likely not be top 20. I think most eagles and dockers fans think either club should be ablet o access W.A . academy boys if they don't go in the first round. Last year both teams missed on players who went after the first round and didn't last to pick 40.

The post I was replying to says he would be top 5.

Either way, if you think Champion is that good, why don't the Eagles just pick him with their normal pick this year?

By the way, at the time the bid was rejected, we only had one early pick, the other was the FA compo for McKay, which came later.

The Sanders request was taking the piss, we all knew it. The AFL were right to turn it down.

 

[Obeanie1]

we aint asking for F/S.... they just happen.

A PP is a request for help b/c of a truly s**t set of management decisions and selections that left the club in the dumpster with more $$ than anyone else in the process and you still cant fix it.

Apples and oranges but well mixed up.

GO Catters

Lol. Wrong. Open the other eye.

They "just happen" because the VFL clubs including Geelong demanded it as part of moving to a national competition. Even though they were broke. VAFL said fine, as the VFL clubs were complaigning and the teams that would be disadvantaged didnt exist yet to oppose the concept.

The AFL bring up Geelongs father son access and success all the time as an example of why other assistance measures are needed.

No father sons no Cats flags. Simple as that Catters. Geelong has recieved its priority access to now gun premiership players. Just like the Swans and Lions have been loading up with AFL assistance in the form of academy priority access AND father sons.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Yes. That would require the AFL to change its rules for the benefit of one club.

They rejected the bid by North Melbourne to access Ryley Sanders in the same way last year - which was the right decision, fwiw - and they should reject any bid by West Coast to do the same thing with your guy.

Talk about revision of history. You asked for a SECOND lot of assistance. Im saying Eagles to ask for 1 lot of assistance only and that being access to Malaki Champion in the same exact path that Gold Coast and GWS have (so not just a one club benefit scenario since its aligning us with other clubs)

 

[big_e]

Talk about revision of history. You asked for a SECOND lot of assistance. Im saying Eagles to ask for 1 lot of assistance only and that being access to Malaki Champion in the same exact path that Gold Coast and GWS have (so not just a one club benefit scenario since its aligning us with other clubs)

Serious question, why don't you want to use the current rules?

 

[JackOutback]

And therein lies the big problem.

Clubs get rewarded for crap management instead of being made to ride it out and make better decisions.

Clubs get rewarded for ex-players shagging someone and popping out a kid instead of being expected to make better decisions on their own.

 

[EagleMan87]

And therein lies the big problem.

Clubs get rewarded for crap management instead of being made to ride it out and make better decisions.

What part of poor management made West Coast's natural 2nd round pick number 30 instead of 19 last year?

If the bottom clubs are constantly being disadvantaged by academies, F/S and free agency compo then getting a little something back is fair enough IMO.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Serious question, why don't you want to use the current rules

Because we are paying money for players we dont get access to take. It isnt a Eagles only issue too. Freo invested heavily in Mitch Edwards only to not get him when if they simply were stationed in a different part of Australia they wouldny have this issue.

The rule should change across the board BUT if AFL refuse it should be changed for Eagles/Freo at minimum to match up to other clubs who are interstate. Eagles will benefit most from it this year however which may annoy some people but think they gotta suck it up really.

 

[big_e]

Because we are paying money for players we dont get access to take. It isnt a Eagles only issue too. Freo invested heavily in Mitch Edwards only to not get him when if they simply were stationed in a different part of Australia they wouldny have this issue.

The rule should change across the board BUT if AFL refuse it should be changed for Eagles/Freo at minimum to match up to other clubs who are interstate. Eagles will benefit most from it this year however which may annoy some people but think they gotta suck it up really.

That's an answer to a different question. I hear you on academies - NMFC bid on Will Ashcroft and Jed Walter in the past two drafts - but that's not what I asked. The question is why don't you wan to just ask for a priority pick?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Difference also between Mitch Edwards/WA based NGA players and well those in Melbourne has been the relocation costs are signicantly higher. He was relocated from down south to Mandurah where the WAFL team is with Freos financial assistance only to then have no ability to keep the guy.

Imagine spending 20-50k on a bloke to build them up to play against you. Its absurd

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

That's an answer to a different question. I hear you on academies - NMFC bid on Will Ashcroft and Jed Walter in the past two drafts - but that's not what I asked. The question is why don't you wan to just ask for a priority pick?

Oh sorry I musunderstood

Reason being Malaki Champion is a much much better win then any priority pick. If I had the choice between 2 end of first round picks and bidding access to Malaki Champion I 100% want the latter of the two

 

[big_e]

Oh sorry I musunderstood

Reason being Malaki Champion is a much much better win then any priority pick. If I had the choice between 2 end of first round picks and bidding access to Malaki Champion I 100% want the latter of the two

Fair enough. But stop couching it in terms of it being about removing some injustice when it's clearly just about self-interest. (I have no problem with self-interest, by the way - just be upfront about it.)

Oh, and for the record, NMFC's first assistance package was a future second and future third pick, both of which had to be traded. It was a measly package, and part of the reason they had to go so big with the second one (ie, because the first one did SFA). So I have some sympathy with your desire for something actually worthwhile.