What do we do with all these ruckmen?

[grimlock]

hi guys

it is interesting to read that you will have so many ruckmen on the list next year with the addition of seaby. is there any chance jolly is heading back to a melb club for next year?

there are rumours everywhere here in melb that he wants to head home to finish his career and that the swannies are interested in letting him go for a high draft pick or quality youngster. he will apparently be 28 when the 2010 season starts and therefore probably has maybe 2-3 years left playing at somewhere near his best and they are years that the swans will be spending rebuilding. doubtful that jolly will be part of their next finals push so at face value it would seem to make alot of sense for them to trade him now while he has high currency and get a top notch younger player into the organisation in return. seaby can help carry the load while some of the younger rucks develop over the next 2-3 years

haw and coll are said to be leading the inquiries into his services

any thoughts? or rumours around up there on the issue?

He was recently elevated to the leadership group along with Shaw. While that does not preclude him from seeking a move elsewhere, it would certainly make it quite unlikely. Collingwood's current first rounder would certainly not be enough compensation for a ruckman of his quality.

 

[Corpuscles]

He was recently elevated to the leadership group along with Shaw. While that does not preclude him from seeking a move elsewhere, it would certainly make it quite unlikely. Collingwood's current first rounder would certainly not be enough compensation for a ruckman of his quality.

ROfL

Their "Messiah" ..future captain material....(Josh Frazer Numero Uno pick) didn't even get a finals guernsey!


Is it just me ...or do...Hawks, Bluezzz and Wobblers at trade time remind you of the fat kid who comes to the party and gutzzzs into every plate, sticks his filthy finger into every cake before the show starts?

 

[magic.merkin]

hi guys



there are rumours everywhere here in melb that he wants to head home to finish his career and that the swannies are interested in letting him go for a high draft pick or quality youngster.?

I haven't heard a thing on SEN etc?

 

[disgruntled goat]

I'd like to hear more about this fort.

We could build it up in a big tree. It would be a tree fort.

 

[captain peanut]

I haven't heard a thing on SEN etc?

that only means that it might actually have some credence. sen run with alot of rubbish. i have heard it from a few people around the traps but the main source is a connection at hawthorn who says they have had at least 2 meetings with his management and that it has been thrown out there that he might be available for the right price. same source says the swans have more than a passing interest in mitch thorp

 

[barry fu]

that only means that it might actually have some credence. sen run with alot of rubbish. i have heard it from a few people around the traps but the main source is a connection at hawthorn who says they have had at least 2 meetings with his management and that it has been thrown out there that he might be available for the right price. same source says the swans have more than a passing interest in mitch thorp

Thankyou Capt. After the dust storm we had the other day I was wondering how to clean my laptop but on reading your post I sprayed a fine film of Fourex all over it and simply wiped away, job done . We would be crazy not to be interested in Mitch Thorpe after the way he monstered us in round 2. Perhaps a straight swap, the Doctor for the Dominator Thorpe, pick 6 might be needed to sweeten the deal. Anyway put that to you contact and let us know, cheers pal.

 

[snappy]

Thankyou Capt. After the dust storm we had the other day I was wondering how to clean my laptop but on reading your post I sprayed a fine film of Fourex all over it and simply wiped away, job done . We would be crazy not to be interested in Mitch Thorpe after the way he monstered us in round 2. Perhaps a straight swap, the Doctor for the Dominator Thorpe, pick 6 might be needed to sweeten the deal. Anyway put that to you contact and let us know, cheers pal.

If this offer was on the table then we would be crazy not to give it some serious thought.
Unfortunately after last years farce with Pelchen, the hawks have little credibility at trade time.
Imho this trade would be fair, we then trade pick 38 for Seaby, hes our main ruckman, it should appeal to him and we keep bringing our own stocks through the ranks.

 

[BIGBEZ]

hi guys

it is interesting to read that you will have so many ruckmen on the list next year with the addition of seaby. is there any chance jolly is heading back to a melb club for next year?

there are rumours everywhere here in melb that he wants to head home to finish his career and that the swannies are interested in letting him go for a high draft pick or quality youngster. he will apparently be 28 when the 2010 season starts and therefore probably has maybe 2-3 years left playing at somewhere near his best and they are years that the swans will be spending rebuilding. doubtful that jolly will be part of their next finals push so at face value it would seem to make alot of sense for them to trade him now while he has high currency and get a top notch younger player into the organisation in return. seaby can help carry the load while some of the younger rucks develop over the next 2-3 years

haw and coll are said to be leading the inquiries into his services

any thoughts? or rumours around up there on the issue?

rumour has it that Shaq Oneil will be signing with us, hes been secretly learning how to play ruck in outback Australia, but shhh, dont tell anyone...

why is eveyone trying to sound like a bloody expert in all these bloody trade threads??

 

[CAS79]

Im sure we went through an elongated contract process with Jolly at the end of 2007 and it resulted in a 4 year deal.

Cant see any substance in this talk at all.

 

[keviewiggle]

Don't expect to get Seaby for pick 38.
There is a lot of interest in him from other clubs.
Maybe Seaby and our oick 39 for your pick 22.

 

[CAS79]

Don't expect to get Seaby for pick 38.
There is a lot of interest in him from other clubs.
Maybe Seaby and our oick 39 for your pick 22.

Here we go again..

Nope, nope and um nope. any reading of the other board would already tell you what we thought of that idea. IF other clubs are that keen on him good for them, if there not you ll get our third pick. And that's the way I believe the swans will play it too.

 

[barry fu]

rumour has it that Shaq Oneil will be signing with us, hes been secretly learning how to play ruck in outback Australia, but shhh, dont tell anyone...

why is eveyone trying to sound like a bloody expert in all these bloody trade threads??

Shaq, Shaq, Shaq....
Wouldn't he fill the jumper out just nicely.
Training in the outback you say Mr Bez. That would explain all these earth tremors and dust storms that have been going on of late.

 

[barry fu]

If this offer was on the table then we would be crazy not to give it some serious thought.
Unfortunately after last years farce with Pelchen, the hawks have little credibility at trade time.
Imho this trade would be fair, we then trade pick 38 for Seaby, hes our main ruckman, it should appeal to him and we keep bringing our own stocks through the ranks.

And what of the good Doctor ?
6 for Thorpe, he can barley get a game for the Dawks even after the year that they have had. What do you see in him, I am interested to know.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

that only means that it might actually have some credence. sen run with alot of rubbish. i have heard it from a few people around the traps but the main source is a connection at hawthorn who says they have had at least 2 meetings with his management and that it has been thrown out there that he might be available for the right price. same source says the swans have more than a passing interest in mitch thorp

IF we manage to somehow trade thorp and a lowish pick for Jolly, I would go buy a lottery ticket the next day.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Jolly has 5 years left, easily. Unless he is struck with some unfortunate injury he'll be going strong for a while yet, so I can't see why we would let him go.

Jolly is worth a top 5 pick and probably a good player too. Seeing as the Hawks didn't want to part with anything for O'Keefe, you have next to no chance of getting Jolly.

 

[Hawk71]

Jolly has 5 years left, easily. Unless he is struck with some unfortunate injury he'll be going strong for a while yet, so I can't see why we would let him go.

Jolly is worth a top 5 pick and probably a good player too. Seeing as the Hawks didn't want to part with anything for O'Keefe, you have next to no chance of getting Jolly.

Jolly would be great get, but don't see it happening.

Also, the Hawks were NEVER in the hunt for O'Keefe, biggest non-story of the 08 trade talks. Started one day by a bored journo and grew legs based on pure speculation. ROK also went on record saying Hawks were never in the picture. There was never any ROK deal to Hawks.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Oh, yeah...I did read that. Sorry

 

[captain peanut]

rumour has it that Shaq Oneil will be signing with us, hes been secretly learning how to play ruck in outback Australia, but shhh, dont tell anyone...

why is eveyone trying to sound like a bloody expert in all these bloody trade threads??

who's trying to sound like an expert? that's what i heard and i thought the syd board might be a good place to see if there were any rumours floating around about. for what it's worth i was at a corporate function on sat and was involved in a conversation that does plenty to add strength to the rumour that jolly wants to finish his career in melb. nothing expert about that either, just out and about and taking in comments from some who are connected to certain clubs and have become a little too lubricated by early in the evening

 

[wintz73]

Here we go again..

Nope, nope and um nope. any reading of the other board would already tell you what we thought of that idea. IF other clubs are that keen on him good for them, if there not you ll get our third pick. And that's the way I believe the swans will play it too.

if this is the best offer, i feel WCE would be better letting him through to the PSD where he will - almost certainly - be picked up before swans first pick. unlikely wce will even use pick 39 in a draft this thin so there is literally no gain for wce trading seaby for that pick.

 

[kira]

if this is the best offer, i feel WCE would be better letting him through to the PSD where he will - almost certainly - be picked up before swans first pick. unlikely wce will even use pick 39 in a draft this thin so there is literally no gain for wce trading seaby for that pick.

correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't clubs obligated to draft 3 players a year.... hence pick 38 will be used if accepted

and isn't WC a relatively young side, hence will be keen to take kids in the next few drafts

won't the combination of pick 38 and 39 provide the club a strong ground in the draft (i.e. wouldn't have to worry that a player you rate at that particular piont will be snatched before your next pick)

in addition... Seaby will not be snatched in the first 2 rounds of the draft.... if he was picked up in the 3rd round, we're in prime position anyway given our high 3rd round pick..... the same pick we're offering you

and saying that i don't even reckon he'll be picked in the 3rd round

if he goes to psd, so be it.... not many fans are that keen to have him at the club anyway..... but pick 38 is hardly a rubbish pick

 

[SouthSwans]

If we do get Seaby, I reckon we play him as starting ruck, Pykey pinch hitting off the bench with big Doctor Jolly at Full Forward, Jess at CHF and Johnston floating around FF/HF as well.

B: Smith, C.Bolton, LRT
HB: Mattner, Grundy, Shaw
C: Goodes, Kirk, Jack
HF: ROK, White, Hannebery
F: Veszpremi, Jolly, Johnston
Foll: Seaby, McVeigh, Bird
INT: Pyke, Richards, J.Bolton, Meredith
EMG: Eski, Schmidt/Bevan/Bucky/Moore/Currie

Dont mind that side for next year.

 

[BIGBEZ]

who's trying to sound like an expert? that's what i heard and i thought the syd board might be a good place to see if there were any rumours floating around about. for what it's worth i was at a corporate function on sat and was involved in a conversation that does plenty to add strength to the rumour that jolly wants to finish his career in melb. nothing expert about that either, just out and about and taking in comments from some who are connected to certain clubs and have become a little too lubricated by early in the evening

all the trade threads on every board not just your post have so many 'experts' and Im over it, and posts like yours, from posters that hop around looking for rumours and then spreading them more and more give me the shits, I just wanna read facts mate.. (just my opinion I dont speak for other posters here so feel free to continue your crap)

 

[BIGBEZ]

If we do get Seaby, I reckon we play him as starting ruck, Pykey pinch hitting off the bench with big Doctor Jolly at Full Forward, Jess at CHF and Johnston floating around FF/HF as well.

B: Smith, C.Bolton, LRT
HB: Mattner, Grundy, Shaw
C: Goodes, Kirk, Jack
HF: ROK, White, Hannebery
F: Veszpremi, Jolly, Johnston
Foll: Seaby, McVeigh, Bird
INT: Pyke, Richards, J.Bolton, Meredith
EMG: Eski, Schmidt/Bevan/Bucky/Moore/Currie

Dont mind that side for next year.

Jolly first ruck, White at CHF and Fev at FF would be more potent, and Seaby cleaning boots..

 

[RangaInTeal]

Pyke would surely be on a wing!

 

[BIGBEZ]

Pyke would surely be on a wing!

as long as he doesnt have to bounce handball or kick he would go alright on a wing lol