Despite our record to Collingwood I have watched 3 successive Sydney Ruckman own Fraser.
There's a reason Collingwood want Jolly and that's because Fraser is nor ever was among the better group of ruckman. That trade is not a win - win.
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Despite our record to Collingwood I have watched 3 successive Sydney Ruckman own Fraser.
There's a reason Collingwood want Jolly and that's because Fraser is nor ever was among the better group of ruckman. That trade is not a win - win.
well this sucks 
the article could at least to tell us the source of this supposed request of jolly.... press release, comment from player manager? at least then we could know whether this is absolute rubbish or not
jolly isn't our best player.... but he's definately the most important player to our side.... and a ruckman of his quality is worth his weight in gold
if true maybe.....
cam wood/josh fraser + 1st rounder + 3rd rounder
seems a lot, but he's worth it.... it's either this or better or he stays under contract (unless the family reasons are genuine and serious, then we might have to settle just a little)
the article could at least to tell us the source of this supposed request of jolly.... press release, comment from player manager? at least then we could know whether this is absolute rubbish or not
jolly isn't our best player.... but he's definately the most important player to our side.... and a ruckman of his quality is worth his weight in gold
if true maybe.....
cam wood/josh fraser + 1st rounder + 3rd rounder
seems a lot, but he's worth it.... it's either this or better or he stays under contract (unless the family reasons are genuine and serious, then we might have to settle just a little)
josh fraser is a hack he got owned by Jolly this year
and hes old and gets injured frequently
Cam Wood is still under developed like some of our boys
Shit if this really does happen and Jolly Leave
CURRIE you gotta bring ur A GAME!
and hes old and gets injured frequently
Cam Wood is still under developed like some of our boys
Shit if this really does happen and Jolly Leave
CURRIE you gotta bring ur A GAME!
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Fair enough.
My Fraser suggestion wasn't based on his ability so much, as I don't rate it that highly per se, but he's certainly better than the alternatives you have on your list (pending Seaby trade overlooked). Even as a permanent forward he might have something to offer.
Fraser and their first rounder for Jolly and third rounder seems fair to me.
My Fraser suggestion wasn't based on his ability so much, as I don't rate it that highly per se, but he's certainly better than the alternatives you have on your list (pending Seaby trade overlooked). Even as a permanent forward he might have something to offer.
Fraser and their first rounder for Jolly and third rounder seems fair to me.
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Fraser and first rounder for Jolly period wouldn't be enough for me. No chance I'd be throwing in our 3rd rounder too.
Would rather throw Pyke and Currie to the slaughter than see Fraser in red and white.
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We gave you your second placed best and fairest last season for barely nothing so we're expecting you to return the favour
If it is Jolly for #14 and Cook I would be over the moon. Cook is a gun VFL player, and given the right opportunity could be good in a different environment. He is a decent tagger and alright around goals.
If it is Jolly for #14 and Cook I would be over the moon. Cook is a gun VFL player, and given the right opportunity could be good in a different environment. He is a decent tagger and alright around goals.
We gave you your second placed best and fairest last season for barely nothing so we're expecting you to return the favour
If it is Jolly for #14 and Cook I would be over the moon. Cook is a gun VFL player, and given the right opportunity could be good in a different environment. He is a decent tagger and alright around goals.
Jolly is more valuble to us than Shaw however, not on performance but value to us because of the role he provides.
If he's going I would look at 14 and Dawes.
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I wouldn't rule out Dawes being in the deal, but I think we'd want something back if it were #14 + Dawes for Jolly. Maybe a swap of later picks.
#14 + Cook for Jolly would probably require a little more from us.
I would think that if we dealt Shannon Cox to WCE, or some deal involving Leon Davis... to help you get Seaby then #14 alone would be plenty.
N Brown and Ben Reid will not be involved in the trade, you can put your house on it.
#14 + Cook for Jolly would probably require a little more from us.
I would think that if we dealt Shannon Cox to WCE, or some deal involving Leon Davis... to help you get Seaby then #14 alone would be plenty.
N Brown and Ben Reid will not be involved in the trade, you can put your house on it.
Once again Collingwood supporters expecting gold for biscuits. He's contracted and you can bet there will be other Victorian clubs chasing him, so he will not come cheap at all.
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^ Simply because I've stated that Brown, Reid and Wood will not be involved in the trade, does not mean I'm asking for "gold for biscuits". But please, continue to believe that if you don't get your dream scenario then you've been ripped off. We'll see how it goes down next week.
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If i was the Hawks i would stop Chasing SB and try get Jolly, Which i think we need more, any chance Pick 9 + Throp (Or another player Swans keen on?)
pick 9 + josh kennedy + maybe a 4th/5th rounder to sweeten the deal (to which no one is really likely to use)
most swans fans would be happy with that i think, so will the club given their expressed interest in kennedy
& will be convinced to stay on until the end of his contract,gain Life Membership of the Club & go on to be named 2010 Bob Skilton Medallist.
Sound familiar?
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It is still a rumour, peanut.
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I'd be pretty disappointed if Jolly left and kind of surprised he'd request a trade back to Melbourne with 2 years to run on his contract but we haven't heard anything from the Swans yet, I'm not surprised that Collingwood are keen though because Fraser and Wood are not really top class ruckmen and Jolly would make their side even stronger, so if he really does want to go we're in a good position to get adequate compensation. It certainly explains our interest in Seaby.
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I'd be happy with 14 plus Dawes.
Look, if Jolly seriously wants to return to Melbourne, we may as well get the best deal we can. This is not the first time this Jolly-back-to-Melbourne rumour has been aired at this time of the season.
It's rumour for about another 16-18 hours until the paperwork is signed off
i don't rely on media rubbish for my info. i was all over this almost 2 weeks ago through people i know at a couple of clubs and esp one friend of mine involved with haw. rest assured haw had a massive crack at him too and when i 1st posted my mate thought they were the front runners. but it seems the pies have won out. it is definitely for pick 14 and a player. that is why pick 14 has not been raised in any discussions with carl on fevola, as it was committed to syd late last week
no of course not media rubbish, but BF rubbish which is even worse, hawthorn, collingwood make up ur mind goose and if anything you 'predict' does end up being true you and about 1000 others have put it out there so dont go getting a big head peanut, your hardly the first, just the first to jump on our board and yell 'look at me, look at me' anyway you still come across as a knob either way...
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barry fu
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The only paperwork going on here involves folding or scrunching, and you are a scruncher. Tell Mr X not to mix his cordials .
i may well be a knob. i have been called alot worse in my time!!!
but bolded below you will see various statement that are exactly in keeping with what i have said - disucssions on jolly's potential move have been happening for some time
Darren Jolly set for shock switch to Magpie
Greg Denham | October 05, 2009
Article from: The Australian
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26164117-5012432,00.html
but bolded below you will see various statement that are exactly in keeping with what i have said - disucssions on jolly's potential move have been happening for some time
Darren Jolly set for shock switch to Magpie
Greg Denham | October 05, 2009
Article from: The Australian
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26164117-5012432,00.html
Wasn't it supposed to have been signed off by now? Roos has pretty much said they'll try to help but Jols is contracted and he'll go to the Vic team with the best deal.
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