Winners and Losers of trade week

[Kildonan]

Winners - Saints, Dogs, Eagles, Bombers
Losers - Power, Crows, Swans, Blues

Bombers???? are you kidding?

 

[Loken]

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[smasha]

Saints winners.

Eagles getting a gun in Kelly to an already formidable list also winners.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

st Kilda winning trade week is perplexing.

Acres Steven & Bruce cancel out Ryder baker & Jones. So they have basically blown there whole 2019 draft plus part of their 2020 draft for hill and Howard. They have 1 top 50 pick total in the next 2 drafts. How is this a win?

Hill improves our ball movement far more compared to an first year player and Howard slots right in as a key defender so 2 instant best 22 players for pick 6, Ryder is loose change but allows us to ensure that Marshall's development will be good and gives roma a good ruck to learn off.

Jones brings some much needed pace too the side and Butler can bring some good culture in from the tigers as well as be an x factor up forward allowing the club to use Gresham more in the midfield.

 

[Ekomaira]

Ever seen Steve play when fit and healthy? Can we get him back to that form? Only time will tell!!
We'll know how this trade plays out come September next year.

I think I see what you did there...

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

You rank trade and draft periods 10 years down the track, not two hour afterwards.

 

[juss]

How have they topped up?

Howard is 23 (iirc), Ryder is ‘only’ 31, Jones is 24, Hill is arguably the best wingman in the game whilst butler is still young and adds depth to a position they wanted to upgrade.


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That's what a top up is. it isn't bad as such, it's just the alternate path to investing in thr draft, usually done when a side believes they are reasonably advanced in their list build.

 

[Diehard Saint]

st Kilda winning trade week is perplexing.

Acres Steven & Bruce cancel out Ryder baker & Jones. So they have basically blown there whole 2019 draft plus part of their 2020 draft for hill and Howard. They have 1 top 50 pick total in the next 2 drafts. How is this a win?

Uh, no.
This draft we have only late picks, obviously that was our plan for this year.
End of 2020 we have 1st, 3rd and 2x 4ths iirc. Plenty you can get packaging those etc.

In the meantime, we have our first two picks from last draft who have not yet played, so we have plenty of youngsters and needed to fill in some other gaps.

“Win, lose”, it’s all opinion, I dont really care - We targeted who we needed, we had five players request to come to us and we got them all.

 

[Sheepey]

Uh, no.
This draft we have only late picks, obviously that was our plan for this year.
End of 2020 we have 1st, 3rd and 2x 4ths iirc.

In the meantime, we have our first two picks from last draft who have not yet played, so we have plenty of youngsters and needed to fill in some other gaps.

“Win, lose”, it’s all opinion, I dont really care - We targeted who we needed, we had five players request to come to us and we got them all.

We don't have a future third, that was given to the Swans for their future 4th. But the rest of your post is spot on.

 

[Max zero]

Can rebuild while contending.
3 picks inside 25 this year and next year will keep us healthy without bottoming out

Been doing that since 2011 with zero GFs to show for it.

But hey continue on if you are happy to almost be a contender year after year.

 

[Kangas_11]

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Some hilariously questionable logic behind the bombers ranking 4th in that article.

Daniher requests a trade, dodoro turns down 2x first round picks in his annual d*** measuring contest, and now they have a disgruntled KPF in their leadership group that will likely walk to the Swans as a free agent next year, netting them a single first rounder at best.

But nah, they grade highly due to "player retention" ignoring the numerous other clubs who didn't have their star player request a trade.

 

[Sheepey]

Some hilariously questionable logic behind the bombers ranking 4th in that article.

Daniher requests a trade, dodoro turns down 2x first round picks in his annual d*** measuring contest, and now they have a disgruntled KPF in their leadership group that will likely walk to the Swans as a free agent next year, netting them a single first rounder at best.

But nah, they grade highly due to "player retention" ignoring the numerous other clubs who didn't have their star player request a trade.

It's not like they had to negotiate to keep Daniher either. Not sure I agree with Bombers that high. I would put them around the 12th region.

 

[Westlo]

Some hilariously questionable logic behind the bombers ranking 4th in that article.

Daniher requests a trade, dodoro turns down 2x first round picks in his annual d*** measuring contest, and now they have a disgruntled KPF in their leadership group that will likely walk to the Swans as a free agent next year, netting them a single first rounder at best.

But nah, they grade highly due to "player retention" ignoring the numerous other clubs who didn't have their star player request a trade.

Yeah remember when the Lakers didn't trade Kobe to the Bulls when he wanted out? When will sports organizations learn that no success will come if you hold onto players who request a trade. Lakers with Kobe, Swans with O'Keefe, Tigers with Dusty.... when will they learn.

 

[Kangas_11]

Yeah remember when the Lakers didn't trade Kobe to the Bulls when he wanted out? When will sports organizations learn that no success will come if you hold onto players who request a trade. Lakers with Kobe, Swans with O'Keefe, Tigers with Dusty.... when will they learn.

Lol, don't compare Daniher to Kobe. Kobe was a generational talent and the difference between the Lakers being title contenders or lottery pick level so there was no way they could trade him. Daniher might get you a finals win, but isn't gonna push you to a premiership.

O'Keefe is literally the only example that works in your favour, Dusty never requested a trade. Also O'Keefe signed on for 4 years after that trade period, if Daniher does the same then great for the dons, but it's more likely he takes advantage of free agency next year which would be a massive f***up by Essendon.

 

[Monkey King]

Carlton. Couldn't do anything with Papley so handcuffed there but if SOS really knocked back 9 for Martin and 15 he is nuts. Once it was clear that Papley wasn't moving then that deal needs to get done. Dees loom large in PSD.

Gold Coast wanted Carlton’s top 10 pick AND future second rounder, which has started as 19 & 21 the last couple of seasons. So Gold Coast wanted pick 9 for Martin and a slide from 15 to 21-ish. Carlton would’ve been nuts to do that deal. They’re simply not at the stage yet of going in so heavy on trades for second tier players.

GC even said it, because they’ve been loaded up on AFL handouts they only wanted cream, but Carlton have actually been worse than GC over the last several seasons; without such gifts from the AFL, we desperately still need our cream.

I’m very happy SOS passed on this. Compared to the alternative of actually doing that trade, it’s a big win.

 

[gutsroy]

Gold Coast wanted Carlton’s top 10 pick AND future second rounder, which has started as 19 & 21 the last couple of seasons. So Gold Coast wanted pick 9 for Martin and a slide from 15 to 21-ish. Carlton would’ve been nuts to do that deal. They’re simply not at the stage yet of going in so heavy on trades for second tier players.

GC even said it, because they’ve been loaded up on AFL handouts they only wanted cream, but Carlton have actually been worse than GC over the last several seasons; without such gifts from the AFL, we desperately still need our cream.

I’m very happy SOS passed on this. Compared to the alternative of actually doing that trade, it’s a big win.

Wasn’t it Jack Martin + 15 for pick 9?
If that was the scenario, Martin would have cost a six pick slide.
Might have it wrong.

 

[bird_man]

Wasn’t it Jack Martin + 15 for pick 9?
If that was the scenario, Martin would have cost a six pick slide.
Might have it wrong.

And a future 2n

 

[Peel67skin]

And a future 2n

Good luck to carlton. No players would nominate Carlton in the future.. I would nominate St kilda and other club before Carlton knowing a deal get done. Papley I can understand but 9 vs 15 and future 2nd for Martin.

 

[bird_man]

st Kilda winning trade week is perplexing.

Acres Steven & Bruce cancel out Ryder baker & Jones. So they have basically blown there whole 2019 draft plus part of their 2020 draft for hill and Howard. They have 1 top 50 pick total in the next 2 drafts. How is this a win?

Worth noting that we went into this trade period with 5 players wanting come and pick 6 and 59 to make it happen.

And we've managed to get every one of them and keep our 1st next year as well as holding onto a 2020 3rd and 4th. So we've give up 6 and a future 2nd in terms of picks.

It sucks we weren't able to get something decent for Steven, but the other option was let him walk away from the game.

Bruce is solid but we have King, Membrey and Battle so to replace him with Jones and 51 gives us more speed around the ground.

Acres was not going to be best 22.

To be able to split pick 6, then use 18 to turn 12 into 10 and get Howard and Ryder was great trading.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Gold Coast wanted Carlton’s top 10 pick AND future second rounder, which has started as 19 & 21 the last couple of seasons. So Gold Coast wanted pick 9 for Martin and a slide from 15 to 21-ish. Carlton would’ve been nuts to do that deal. They’re simply not at the stage yet of going in so heavy on trades for second tier players.

GC even said it, because they’ve been loaded up on AFL handouts they only wanted cream, but Carlton have actually been worse than GC over the last several seasons; without such gifts from the AFL, we desperately still need our cream.

I’m very happy SOS passed on this. Compared to the alternative of actually doing that trade, it’s a big win.

In reality that Carlton future second isn't going to be pick 21

With Martin - and Papley had you managed to get that done as well
An improving young team adding some best 22 talent - internally you would be aiming for finals, no doubt. - pick 25ish much closer to the mark
With the academy / father sons in next years first 20 - that pick gets pushed out a bit - I dare say in reality its about pick 30.

 

[L_W_P]

Gold Coast wanted Carlton’s top 10 pick AND future second rounder, which has started as 19 & 21 the last couple of seasons. So Gold Coast wanted pick 9 for Martin and a slide from 15 to 21-ish. Carlton would’ve been nuts to do that deal. They’re simply not at the stage yet of going in so heavy on trades for second tier players.

GC even said it, because they’ve been loaded up on AFL handouts they only wanted cream, but Carlton have actually been worse than GC over the last several seasons; without such gifts from the AFL, we desperately still need our cream.

I’m very happy SOS passed on this. Compared to the alternative of actually doing that trade, it’s a big win.

Ah! Wasn't aware of the extra pick. Fair play to SOS then.

 

[gutsroy]

And a future 2n

Aah, ok, cheers

 

[nelroo]

Essendon, winners for sure

Those two words do not go together..

 

[Kenjo]

In reality that Carlton future second isn't going to be pick 21

With Martin - and Papley had you managed to get that done as well
An improving young team adding some best 22 talent - internally you would be aiming for finals, no doubt. - pick 25ish much closer to the mark
With the academy / father sons in next years first 20 - that pick gets pushed out a bit - I dare say in reality its about pick 30.

Yeah nah. GC asked for too much and SOS did right to walk away.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Yeah nah. GC asked for too much and SOS did right to walk away.

I was just commenting on my belief that carlton second rounder would be closer to 30 rather than 21.
I didn't pass any judgement on the decision to accept that or not.