Autopsy Round 3 = Collingwood 91-104 Geelong

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Jafo said:
No charges for Selwood and just a fine for Atkins. What fu**’n joke!

Fingers crossed Cats make top 4 and get torched in the finals.
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Thinking of a rebuild purely in terms of average age is perhaps taking a narrow view.

20-25% of our side yesterday consisted of 1st and 2nd year players; more if Beau wasn't injured. A significant portion of our players are still finding their feet at AFL level (heaps of potential though).

We're also playing under a new coach who has introduced a new style of play. First year at the helm and has so far done a stirling job.

I accept that the result was disappointing but I hate the finger-pointing and blame.

The side dared to take the game on and lost. This will not be the last time this will happen this year.

Personally, I wouldn't want them reverting to the Buckley style of play. We will get better at slowing things down and controlling the tempo.
 
12kilos said:
Hi everyone like most of you i am gutted with the loss yesterday.
At the same time if we like it or not we are in rebuild mode.
In my opinion our objective in the next 3 years is to get us to a premieship window asap. Which means playing as many kids in our list, if not all to see if there up to it.
I honnestly think even if our coaches dont come out and say it, they think the same way.
If we actually flooded and played a uber defensive gane in the last quater yesterday i will tell you now we would have won.
But its about blooding the kids teaching them a system/game style first if wins come through doing this process good if they dont? sometimes you learn more from crushing defeats then wins.
i have no issue making another 4 or 5 changes this week as we need to check out all our kids in our senior list.
Bring in Johnston Macrae Kelly and after that in the following weeks bring in the rest of them.
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I think with the number of retirements of elite players in the next 3 years, we're looking more at a 5 year plan. I mean: Pendlebury, Roughead, Howe, Sidebottom, Elliot won't be around in 3 years. That's some serious talent to lose. Even Adams and Crisp will be 31 or so in 3 years. We really needed to trade out some elite talent and get some top draft picks in return, instead of that ridiculous fire sale in 2020.

Agree with your point about making changes though. We need to do a lot of testing out of the talent we have.
 
Finnishpie said:
Thats why I asked the question about Witts, who I always rated, unlike some on here. I’d have preferred to sign Witts for 4 or 5 years at a reasonable price than what Grundy was given. I mean, he’s not Buddy Franklin.
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Witts always reminded me of a sloth. Every movement was glacially slow.
 
12kilos said:
I think you going around the block a few times has made you dizzy!
Playing kids, rebuilding, new game plan will create an inconsistancy
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Whatever sunshine looking forward to your next pearls of wisdom
 
Jonno94 said:
Disagree, we can't keep up this style for an entire season. The players are going to be burnt to a crisp by round 10 and we'll only won 2-3 more games, calling it now. Bookmark it.
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It’s almost exactly the same style that we played through all 2018 without getting burnt out.
 
greening22 said:
I am firmly of the opinion that if Collingwood had a gun KEY FORWARD - either full-forward or centrehalf-foward - that the team would have see beaten Geelong. The club needs to be extremely aggressive & creative to get the best young key forward from the 2022 AFL National Draft. Alternatively, we need to come up with a mix of trade picks and/or players to recruit an existing key forward from another club. I mean if the club had a players or players on their list such as Harry McKay or Charlie Curnow on the list, then there are no limits upon what this club could do in the short to medium term.. Goodnight & good luck.
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Where is there a quality key forward available to trade in?
 
Ok so on premise I agree we should be in rebuild, But why should be the question ? Our 2018 side are in their named lined positions. players whom have left the club are highlighted red and replaced with the bolded players just below. you can put a fair argument that our 2022 team on paper is better


B: Jack Crisp Tom Langdon Brayden Maynard
Darcy Moore
HB: Travis Varcoe Tyson Goldsack Jeremy Howe
Isaac Quaynor Joran Roughead
C: Tom Phillips Scott Pendlebury Adam Treloar
Josh Daicos Nick Daicos
HF: Jordan De Goey Brody Mihocek Will Hoskin-Elliott

F: Josh Thomas Mason Cox Jaidyn Stephenson
Jamie Elliott Jack Ginnivan
Foll: Brodie Grundy Taylor Adams Steele Sidebottom

Int: Brayden Sier James Aish Chris Mayne Levi Greenwood
John Noble Patrick Lipinski Beau McCreery Nathan Kreuger
 

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Jonno94 said:
Point me in the direction of teams that have lost by 2 goals after being 30 points up at the start of the 4th in recent history.
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How about a team that was up by 4 and lost by 33?

April 3, 2022
3/4 Time St Kilda 11.8.74 Richmond 12.6.78
Full Time St Kilda 18.9.117 Richmond 13.6.84

PS: Last time we played them it was 0.7.7 to 5.8.38 at half time.

I‘m happy with the improvement.
 
Anzacday said:
How about a team that was up by 4 and lost by 33?

April 3, 2022
3/4 Time St Kilda 11.8.74 Richmond 12.6.78
Full Time St Kilda 18.9.117 Richmond 13.6.84

PS: Last time we played them it was 0.7.7 to 5.8.38 at half time.

I‘m happy with the improvement.
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Up by 4 points and won……wow

Totally missed the point of being 30 points up in the 4th and losing 👍
 
Anzacday said:
How about a team that was up by 4 and lost by 33?

April 3, 2022
3/4 Time St Kilda 11.8.74 Richmond 12.6.78
Full Time St Kilda 18.9.117 Richmond 13.6.84

PS: Last time we played them it was 0.7.7 to 5.8.38 at half time.

I‘m happy with the improvement.
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Not sure if you're joking
 
Axl the great said:
Big opportunity lost, Geelong totally changed in the last and basically stole what we were doing in running and playing on at an opportunity.
We gave them a sniff and the boys will learn a lot after this game.
The last quarter we just bombed away and didn't play smart, we needed to be more calculating and a bit more careful going inside 50.
Geelong had adapted and Stewart was really getting on top, the message should have come down to change it up.

Most of the team played well to ok, Adam's was really good but just as costly at times, He just lacks polish and Discipline at times and in really pivotal moments as well.

Madgen I can't deal with, ball watching is his position and his opponents just find space on him, I honestly don't see how
he gets a game.

Grundy is going backwards, just sick of the rushed kicks when he is in space and the no look handball from a groundball get that usually ends up with the opposition.

The young fella's look awesome, finally we have first and second year players actually influencing games and impacting, rather than taking a backseat to the senior guys in games, that is something that hasn't happened at Collingwood for quite a while.

We have a pretty decent run coming up and I just pray we maintain what we are doing and hopefully turn 5-1 or 4-2 after six rounds.
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Your comment on Grundy is spot on. There’s going to come a time when GW & co will seriously question his position at the club if he continues to stagnate as a footballer.
 
Sorry guys I’ll focus on the loss and not the win.
Richmond were in front by 4 at 3/4 time and lost by 33.
That‘s a 37 point turnaround from 3/4 time.
 
loki04 said:
it is relevant as he’s also a first year player who also will get better with experience, just like others who can perform at a young age which was my point they get games but are up to it. Nick is obviously a young gun.
Would of loved Poulters run against the cats.
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When people are saying get games into the kids, I always think they mean play them ahead of an older player even if the older player is still slightly better - that's what I meant by Daicos not being relevant. You're picking Daicos when fit, regardless of whether you preference youth or not.
 
Go Woods said:
Your comment on Grundy is spot on. There’s going to come a time when GW & co will seriously question his position at the club if he continues to stagnate as a footballer.
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I can't see that happening. He's still a good ruckman. And he's contracted and if not worth the amount of his contract, we'd still have to pay part of it as a salary dump.
 
Apex36 said:
It’s almost exactly the same style that we played through all 2018 without getting burnt out.
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This style is a bit more frantic. In 2018 we fed it backwards to blokes who'd triangulated behind the ball, who then kicked it out to the flankers who'd stayed wide. There wasn't as much wave running - only a couple would take off and try to get ahead of the ball and the defence.
 
Anzacday said:
Sorry guys I’ll focus on the loss and not the win.
Richmond were in front by 4 at 3/4 time and lost by 33.
That‘s a 37 point turnaround.
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JB007 said:
I still can read English Anzacday…….it has nothing to do with being 30 up in the last and losing

Do I need to bold letters?
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Jonno94 said:
So you think being 4 points down at 3 quarter time is the same as being 30 points down? I've heard it all.
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Some pretty strange reading here!! I thought the point Anzacday made was obvious and very reasonable - while the example he gave didn't meet the "up by 30 points in the last quarter" rule it's still highly relevant, and shows that teams can be badly overrun in games where they seem to be well placed. Richmond led by as much as 25 points in the 3rd quarter, so losing by 33 points represented a huge turnaround in a relatively short time:
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In the post I made earlier on this I gave a few examples of teams losing when in a similar position to Collingwood's from last night, and mentioned the extraordinary capitulation of the Western Bulldogs in last year's Grand Final (in the space of c. 40 minutes they went from winning by 13 points to losing by 74). The main point is it does happen, something similar happened just this afternoon, and it's not just a "Collingwood thing"!
 
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