List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 6

[Noidnadroj]

The equivalent of what we may have just given up for a guy who is 25 and needed to be offloaded due to salary cap restrictions.

Pick 12s-
Isaiah Pickett
Zack Butters
Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

Sam Docherty

15

Sam Docherty

Age

31

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

15.1

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

22.6

5star

K

16.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.6

1star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

Cyril Rioli
James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Pick 19s-
Sam De Koning
Tim English
Isaac Smith

7

Isaac Smith

Age

36

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

Callan Ward

8

Callan Ward

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.8

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

5.4

5star

D

17.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.3

4star

D

10.0

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

Shaun Grigg

And over just 5 x drafts from 2015-2019, here are some players taken in the top-20:

Schache
Francis
AhCee
Weideman
Wayne Milera
Kennedy
Fiorini
Setterfield
Petreski Seton
Logue
Bowes
V enables
Galluci
P Dow
Stephenson
Coffield
O’Brien
Bonar
Brander
Ling
Higgins
CCJ
Chayce Jones
Hately
McHenry
Sturt
Stocker
RCD
McAsey
Flanders
Bergman
Stephens
Kemp
Philp

Then there’s a heap more crud at 21-22 where our pick will slide to.

So take a guaranteed gun, or roll the dice? You’ve got to play the odds, and the odds of getting a single player better than TT from either pick is very small …. and even if you did fluke it, TT can help us win flags immediately, a new draftee would take a few years to reach their peak.


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[lumpinee]

couldnt have been anything less than the equivalent of pick 7 to get him across,has a better CV than meatball @ same age n we paid #6 to get him

 

[Phar Ace]

There's a lot of people being unrealistic thinking we're going to give GWS a pair of dirty socks for 2 gun mids. End of the day they'll be well compensated by us with trade slightly favouring us. On the plus side I managed to catch up with a bloke who's mates with a Carlton talent scout and he said they're already tipping 2002 Draft shiteness about this Draft. This talent scouts daughter was in my daughter's primary school class but since high school lost touch. He told me not long after the Shai Bolton Draft that we just got a Brownlow medallist dirt cheap and was filthy he was ignored and they took Fisher instead. Every time I saw him he'd talk about Shai so he certainly knew. So I rate his opinion. Who cares if we end up with Taranto, Hopper and late token picks in their 50's, 60's odds are gonna get s**t players anyway. Keep powder dry for next year.

Agree with this question over 2022 draft - I'm surprised by some names getting invited to the Combine - if so it is seriously less than other years. Still be some great players, but really some will be hopeful that Clubs can pour in the development to get enough of them up there to play. Time will tell.

 

[Gunit]

Don't bother looking at the GWS board. There's no-one there

 

[tigers12]

I have a feeling hopper will end up staying at gws

 

[captain blood 17]

couldve got the best slider with 19

we fu*ked up bigtime

 

[Heisenberg_]

When all the nuffies are melting we overpaid means we’ve done a good trade

 

[Bird Man]

this hopper trade is getting interesting. Not sure how it gets done if they value him more than TT.

 

[Groupie_]

Didn’t u want pick 8 for Graham?

nope

 

[a_fighting_fury]

theyll give us their future 1st or trade period is a disaster for us

We’re rolling the dice with Taranto and Hopper to be the missing pieces that will get us into the top 4 next season. This is why Cotchin and JR8 didn’t retire.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

this hopper trade is getting interesting. Not sure how it gets done if they value him more than TT.

How easy we are to deal with, and that perhaps 'overs' for TT is considered in the Hopper trade.

 

[lvt06]

this hopper trade is getting interesting. Not sure how it gets done if they value him more than TT.

Hopper is the player they need out for cap space. He will be the cheap one.

 

[Phar Ace]

I feel like we might try to get another trade done before we do the Hopper deal. I get the feeling that GWS would've given a future 3rd as well with the Taranto trade.

If we don't have a future 3rd YET, other clubs can't ask for it when we try to trade.

Might get tacked onto the Hopper trade later on, in addition to his actual value.

Whether that happens or not, that is why we have to look at the trade period in fullness, not one trade at a time.

 

[Groupie_]

We’re rolling the dice with Taranto and Hopper to be the missing pieces that will get us into the top 4 next season. This is why Cotchin and JR8 didn’t retire.

the missing piece to the top 4 is the afl and umpires

they'll decide our fate

 

[Groupie_]

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[lvt06]

the missing piece to the top 4 is the afl and umpires

they'll decide our fate

So who cares about pick 19 then

 

[a_fighting_fury]

I would only want 12

 

[captain blood 17]

I have a feeling hopper will end up staying at gws

I have a feeling we will get him.

 

[captain blood 17]

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Reply with your freak throwing the spear campaigner.

 

[HumanMeatball]

couldve got the best slider with 19

we fu*ked up bigtime

The slider is always shit. Rcd, stocker, that random Essendon bloke one year, Higgins

 

[Phar Ace]

I have a feeling hopper will end up staying at gws

May well be, but he has nominated and like us they usually get the players were they want to go.

 

[Phar Ace]

The slider is always s**t. Rcd, stocker, that random Essendon bloke one year, Higgins

Cavanagh

 

[Groupie_]

The slider is always s**t. Rcd, stocker, that random Essendon bloke one year, Higgins

bolton sonsie

 

[Heisenberg_]

Stop whining that we overpaid.. it’s more than fair

This Mafia bloke got potential to be top 10 player in league

In the window to win another flag, he is only going to increase our chances. If the difference between winning or not I’d potentially missing out on somebody who might be a gun in 5 years but probably won’t be I’ll take that chance.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Let’s reverse the situation … let’s say end of 2018 after a flag and showing he was a quality player, Prestia decided he wanted to head back to QLD? A 25yo quality midfielder ….what would Tiger supporters have wanted for Prestia?

Would you have been doing cartwheels with 12 and 19?

I think it’s a win/win. Tigers get a desperately needed quality inside-mid at perfect age profile for contending, GWS get good draft capital.

People have to realise that whilst we may not win a flag with TT and Hopper, we were zero chance of a flag without them in the next few years.


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