List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[06Premiers]

Herald Sun just dropped their final phantom if anyone has access

Don’t have access to the article but listening to the podcast:

-Hewett is likely to slide to back end of first or early second due to behavioural concerns, with GWS interested (I still believe Eagles are a strong chance to take him at 12 FWIW)
-Sydney interested in Barnett in the first round
-Eagles expected to take Kaleb Smith and Darcy Jones in the second round
-Tsatas has flipped as the leading contender for bombers first pick, over Phillipou, after the training session at Gosher’s paddock (apparently tore it apart)
-Eagles may bid on Alwyn Davey


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1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (BL - match Norf bid)
3. Wardlaw (Norf)
4. Sheezel (Norf)
5. Tsatas (Ess)
6. Humphrey (GC)
7. Phillipou (Haw)
8. Clark (Gee)
9. Ginbey (WCE)
10. Busslinger (StK)
11. Fletcher (BL - match Carl bid)
12. Hollands (Carl)
13. Allan (WB)
14. Mackenzie (WCE)
15. Jefferson (Melb)
16. Weddle (Syd)
17. Hewett (GWS)
18. Ryan (Coll)
19. Barnett (Syd)
20. Clarke (GWS)
21. Hayes (GWS)
22. Davey (Ess - match WCE bid)
23. Jones (WCE)
24. Michalanney (Adel - match WB bid)
25. George (WB)
26. Cowan (Norf)
27. Gruzewski (Haw)
28. Hustwaite (Coll)
29. Smith (WCE)
30. Richards (Coll)

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

So reading between the lines and order of preference from what I gather?

Mackenzie; Balanced Midfield, just ticks all the boxes.
Poo; Highest Ceiling, big body midfield with X factor.
Clark; Selwood leader, is determined and ultimate professional.
Tsatas; Speed, accumulator, good kick but outside.
Ginbey; WA Local, big bodied, aggressive and he is local

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

He definitely left the door open for that didn’t he which likely means Busslinger if he slides or Jefferson as possibilities

I wouldn't be opposed to it, if we could nail later picks to address midfield, small fwd needs;

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• George
• Szybkowski

Or

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• Hewett
• Burgiel

 

[hbk2015]

Id be very happy with those. 2 Mids, 1 small fwd and a rebounding defender

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Rip and Floyd are on to it, not sure how many strings will be left intact on the guitar, I suspect less than five, we all know how much both hate the guitar player.

Are you taking Miguel Sanchez to the train station or bus station.

 

[paran]

I wouldn't be opposed to it, if we could nail later picks to address midfield, small fwd needs;

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• George
• Szybkowski

Or

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• Hewett
• Burgiel

Busslinger
Hewett
George
Sybkowski

 

[Wce17]

1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (BL - match Norf bid)
3. Wardlaw (Norf)
4. Sheezel (Norf)
5. Tsatas (Ess)
6. Humphrey (GC)
7. Phillipou (Haw)
8. Clark (Gee)
9. Ginbey (WCE)
10. Busslinger (StK)
11. Fletcher (BL - match Carl bid)
12. Hollands (Carl)
13. Allan (WB)
14. Mackenzie (WCE)
15. Jefferson (Melb)
16. Weddle (Syd)
17. Hewett (GWS)
18. Ryan (Coll)
19. Barnett (Syd)
20. Clarke (GWS)
21. Hayes (GWS)
22. Davey (Ess - match WCE bid)
23. Jones (WCE)
24. Michalanney (Adel - match WB bid)
25. George (WB)
26. Cowan (Norf)
27. Gruzewski (Haw)
28. Hustwaite (Coll)
29. Smith (WCE)
30. Richards (Coll)

I’d be spewing if we took Jones over Hotton/Burgiel/George/Keeler.

It’s not Jones height that is a concern it’s his small frame. Those 4
look like better prospects.

 

[Avalor]

Link to Herald Sun phantom draft is below

2022 Media Draft Rankings & Phantom Drafts

News - 2022 Media Draft Rankings & Phantom Drafts

Pretty much this. In regards to the draft, I try to read widely and get involved in the discussion. The word I’ve heard from posters such as PMBangers, on the Geelong boards, reading Facebook groups is that Geelong are seeking to gain a KPP, not another midfielder. The reason for this is that...

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Has us taking Ginbey, Mackenzie, Jones and Smith.

I’d be stoked if Mackenzie fell to our second pick.


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Would be very happy with that haul.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Herald Sun just dropped their final phantom if anyone has access

Here is the HUN

I would take that draft haul very happily

8 = Ginbey
12 = Mackenzie
20= Jones
26 = Smith

Whilst I would have preferred Hotton or Burgiel to Jones, that is hitting the briefing.

That said, difficult to understand the prediction of the Saints going the Bus and leaving Mackenzie. They have Battle about the same size as the Bus and although Ross likes his defence first strategy, he showed before he prioritises the midifield.

 

[Wce17]

Id be very happy with those. 2 Mids, 1 small fwd and a rebounding defender

Jones isn’t a small forward he’s a mid. Everyone complains we always draft small mids & try and turn them into small forwards which is exactly what we would be doing.

 

[Spank2304]

Jones isn’t a small forward he’s a mid. Everyone complains we always draft small mids & try and turn them into small forwards which is exactly what we would be doing.

Agreed. Konstanty still on the board in this mock and would much prefer him

 

[Dark Sharks]

Trying to dog me ya dawg.

I'll think you'll find the post is in good humour and I throw half assed shade at all of them.

 

[NSLK]

We’ve only got the ability to take four early picks if we’re keeping that late pick to match a bid on Dewar, pick up a slider or generally hedge our bets.

So trading for 14 or 17 is effectively only upgrading pick 26.

Keep that in mind.

This doesn’t make sense unless we rate Dewar at 26 or higher.

If it’s a decision between using 26 as our 5th pick or matching for Dewar, I’d say we would take the risk that he doesn’t get a bid.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Here is the HUN

I would take that draft haul very happily

8 = Ginbey
12 = Mackenzie
20= Jones
26 = Smith

Whilst I would have preferred Hotton or Burgiel to Jones, that is hitting the briefing.

That said, difficult to understand the prediction of the Saints going the Bus and leaving Mackenzie. They have Battle about the same size as the Bus and although Ross likes his defence first strategy, he showed before he prioritises the midifield.


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Get Hewett back off GWS in a year or two also!

 

[Dark Sharks]

No Hotton, Keeler or Burgiel in the HUN top 30 mock is interesting.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I wouldn't be opposed to it, if we could nail later picks to address midfield, small fwd needs;

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• George
• Szybkowski

Or

• Mackenzie (likely Ginbey)
• Jefferson
• Hewett
• Burgiel

The key to taking a tall at 12 is to nail 8 with an balanced mid. That to me is Mackenzie, Clark, Hollands and Hewett.

I think we then add Hotton or Burgiel at 20 and then Szybkowski at 26. As you know, I had Szybkowski at 21 when you Monocle and I did a calibration exercise in September.

Because of Culley on our books already, I would be happy to add Szybkowski at 26 as the inside mid and hence my interest at Ginbey at 8 is lower.

Recap - If the Pieman wants a tall at 12
8 - one of Mackenzie, Clark, Hollands and Hewett (in that order)
12 - Busslinger or Jefferson
20 - Hotton or Burgiel
26 - Szybkowski or Smith

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

No Hotton, Keeler or Burgiel in the HUN top 30 mock is interesting.

I'm always keen for the surprise who doesn't get drafted, who we then get all excited for as the rookie draft approaches, only for them to not get drafted again, or they end up having a Trew-like career.

As if the clubs know something we don't. Pffft.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Get Hewett back off GWS in a year or two also!

Hewett has shown he has the inbuilt desire to chase greatness.

Leaving an inferior school like Guildford to attend a superior school like Scotch is the prelude to leaving GWS for West Coast.

Bring it on.

 

[bh90210fan]

Apparently Keeler’s 2km time trial at the combine was so poor Murray Newman

Murray Newman

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.8

4star

would’ve lapped him. Too much work involved in getting him motivated and up to scratch.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

No Hotton, Keeler or Burgiel in the HUN top 30 mock is interesting.

Keeler I get as he is high risk high reward but Hotton surprises me. I personally rate Burgiel but given they included so many bids, I guess they were trying to be smart.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Reading the HUN mock, I like the fact that we have done a lot of work on Mackenzie.

He is my tip for us at pick 8

Saints will be pissed and look to possibly go Jefferson to partner King.
Blues are on record to say they want midfield - especially outside run so Hollands and Allen look right
Bulldogs are supposedly tossing up outside speed or KPD so Allen or Busslinger.

So if we take Mackenzie with 8, we could well get Ginbey at 12.

 

[Chris_6678]

Daniel Cherny

@DanielCherny
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The talk of Matt Jefferson to West Coast isn't going away


....please no

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[Dark Sharks]

I wish YOU would go away Daniel.

 

[DanWCE]

Vom. But I back us to pick good talls almost all the time, so there must be something we see in him. I'd just prefer to address talls next year when there's more available of a higher quality.