Oppo Camp Brodie Grundy (Traded to Melbourne 2022)

[Fat Jesus]

He had to agree to the trade

He wanted to stay in Melb (funny how he used return to Adelaide in contract negotiations.

He wanted to go to a team competing at the top.


Not sending him to Adelaide a couple of years ago was a howler. Eddie & Co blinked.

Adelaide offered us two firsts from memory. Perhaps a second or third as well.

 

[sr36]

I really hope it was the case that Mitchell was a high priority. He made our trade period last year.

We shouldn't have targeted McStay as a free agent. We should've learnt our lesson around targeting average players in free agency after QLynch, Clinton Young and Mayne.

For his cost and output as a "someone who takes away a defender", we might as well have gotten Weideman for cheap.

Meanwhile we're paying him the same amount and contract length as Grundy after subsidy.

He gives a reliable contest and is a team oriented capable tall. He's worth a bit.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

The list management mistake we made was not having enough tall defensive depth not ruck depth. Even now we have a fit guy who has played as a ruckman, it's just that we need him even more in defence.

You can't have 20 ruckmen on your list. We had Cox, Cameron, Begg, Kreuger, Frampton all as potential ruckmen with McStay a designated gameday relief ruck. That's plenty.

This crying over an ex-player in Grundy is thus incredibly sumb. He has his own injury concerns and luck could just as easily fall that he goes down next week.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The list management mistake we made was not having enough tall defensive depth not ruck depth. Even now we have a fit guy who has played as a ruckman, it's just that we need him even more in defence.

You can't have 20 ruckmen on your list. We had Cox, Cameron, Begg, Kreuger, Frampton all as potential ruckmen with McStay a designated gameday relief ruck. That's plenty.

This crying over an ex-player in Grundy is thus incredibly sumb. He has his own injury concerns and luck could just as easily fall that he goes down next week.

Whilst I agree with you about your point about Grundy….

Aren’t begg Kreuger frampton ( and Dean Kelly and Markov) all tall defensive depth? Ruscoe too at a pinch.

 

[TW Sherrin]

If you're dumping a contracted player, you don't get the choice. The player does.

Dumping him on Melbourne is some 3D chess.

With Gawn and Grundy on big long-term deals it locks up alot of their cap in a position no one would.

 

[Frogs]

I really hope it was the case that Mitchell was a high priority. He made our trade period last year.

We shouldn't have targeted McStay as a free agent. We should've learnt our lesson around targeting average players in free agency after QLynch, Clinton Young and Mayne.

For his cost and output as a "someone who takes away a defender", we might as well have gotten Weideman for cheap.

Meanwhile we're paying him the same amount and contract length as Grundy after subsidy.

Mayne ended up being a pretty good player for us in the end.

I take your points on the cost of McStay. I don't disagree with his performances either. But we are three weeks in.

When it's all said and done, Cameron and Cox have been doing a solid job in the ruck. We're only sitting around chatting about Grundy because of a very unfortunate run of injuries.

 

[Finnishpie]

Curious to know why you and eugene41 are so much on the Grundy bandwagon? What point exactly are you trying to prove? It seems to me that you both think you know better than the club's brains trust and would have kept Grundy during last year's trade period, and nothing that happens from here on in will change your points of view.

Right or wrong, the club has made its decision now, so what's the point of agonising about what-if's and revisiting history? What does it achieve exactly? Will you be satisfied if Grundy stars at Melbourne because it would vindicate what you would have done, which is kept him at Collingwood (when incidentally there is no guarantee that he would have found form again if he had stayed).

Why not back the club in, knowing we've made our decision, rather than constantly sitting on the sidelines saying how you would have done it better? Maybe apply for Wrighty's role next time?

I said I agreed with the club’s decision. I‘m happy with how things stand.

I‘m just pointing out that all those who banged on about him being finished should have a think about their one-sided thinking. I am pretty sick of people who can’t see that life is complex.

 

[Finnishpie]

Round 3

Grundy - 25 HO - 4 qtrs game time
Cameron - 24 HO - 3 qtrs game time

What are their stats over their careers? That will tell a more complete story.

 

[TW Sherrin]

What are their stats over their careers? That will tell a more complete story.

No it won't. It's weighted to when Grundy was good. Do the last 3 years. That's more than adequate for a sample.

 

[Markfs]

i've been told that i need to watch the melbourne replay to reassess my assessment of grundy.... it's going to be a long season...

 

[NMBB]

What are their stats over their careers? That will tell a more complete story.

This is BF - not interested in complete stories - door stop news grabs - social media sensationalism is the go here

 

[NMBB]

i've been told that i need to watch the melbourne replay to reassess my assessment of grundy.... it's going to be a long season...

Who told you that - Ronnie or your nearest and dearest?

 

[Fat Jesus]

Whoever watches football and understands it will know Grundy has been average for 2 seasons+. Sure he had a good game today.
Wish him the best.

 

[No SPIN]

If you're dumping a contracted player, you don't get the choice. The player does.

I think we need to be a little more nuanced - GW must have believed at the end of the trade period we strengthened our list MORE, than Grundy did for Melb.

But I have my doubts - unless the cap space lands us a gun.

So time will tell.

 

[sr36]

I think we need to be a little more nuanced - GW must have believed at the end of the trade period we strengthened our list MORE, than Grundy did for Melb.

But I have my doubts - unless the cap space lands us a gun.

So time will tell.

That's not more nuanced. That's flawed thinking. If you're not improving yourself due to not wanting to improve another team, you're going to go backwards, as you're forgetting that it's an 18 team comp and not just a head to head against the team you're trading with.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

Whilst I agree with you about your point about Grundy….

Aren’t begg Kreuger frampton ( and Dean Kelly and Markov) all tall defensive depth? Ruscoe too at a pinch.

Relying on poor or underdeveloped ruckmen is less of a problem than relying on key defenders with the same limitations. And also, Markov is 188cm.

The point is, people shouldn't be lamenting that we don't have Grundy, they should be lamenting that we don't have another decent quality tall back in our team that would allow Frampton to ruck.

Defensive depth was always a bigger concern for our list, ruck injuries are just bad luck.

 

[Kirby]

Grundy was one of Melbourne’s best today.

 

[Markfs]

Who told you that - Ronnie or your nearest and dearest?

i have a grundy feed that keeps me updated on everything he does... he had fruit and muesli this morning...

 

[Fat Jesus]

i have a grundy feed that keeps me updated on everything he does... he had fruit and muesli this morning...

Muesli with soy milk?

 

[NMBB]

i have a grundy feed that keeps me updated on everything he does... he had fruit and muesli this morning...

Are you prepared to reveal the type of coffee consumed by BG (some here just seem consumed by BG)

 

[Markfs]

Muesli with soy milk?

Are you prepared to reveal the type of coffee consumed by BG (some here just seem consumed by BG)

i can confirm the soy but not the brand and certainly not the type of coffee. I pay thousands of dollars to get this feed so that I know everything about his life...i'm obsessed with him.... i need to know it all... i think many of us are in the same place. I had to stop my treloar subscription to pay for the grundy one...

 

[Markfs]

if you want to know more about grundy's performance today, kingy's crack is being shown in a few minutes on fox....

 

[Wearmouth]

The fact this is even a discussion means it’s not one-sided. I was won over by the evidence of the last 3 games. To move him on seems to have worked. But the more unhinged anti-Grundy folk can eat the truth, which is he’s performing well this week and will probably get better as he gets fitter. So yeah, reality bites them. And I’m glad because eedjots need a reality check.

Reality Check from what. That the Swines were found wanting at the MCG again. Do we forget there last outing at the MCG. They can only really play on toy grounds.

And WOW hold the press the Dreamons won a game. And Soy Boy had to stand up. FMD. You’d hope that if he wants to be there long term that he better stand up. Can he last all year will be the real question.

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.


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[NMBB]

i can confirm the soy but not the brand and certainly not the type of coffee. I pay thousands of dollars to get this feed so that I know everything about his life...i'm obsessed with him.... i need to know it all... i think many of us are in the same place. I had to stop my treloar subscription to pay for the grundy one...

Thanks I appreciate your support - enjoyed our catch up the other day - thanks for bringing the tofu salad

 

[Wearmouth]

“Brodie Grundy stepped into the No.1 ruck role in the absence of injured skipper Max Gawn, giving the Demons a fresh look and an air of unpredictability around the ball.

He was one of the Demons' best, finishing with 25 hitouts, 21 disposals and five marks.”

He has played 3 games in the last year. So he won’t reach full match fitness for another month or so.

No he has played more than that. He played up until Anzac Day last season. Played a VFL game. Has played in their Intra club games and practice matches. And has played all their matches this far.

And let’s be honest. He didn’t just recover from injury at couple of weeks prior to season start. He was fine soon after we finished our 2022 season.

The pathetic part of this is that you’re not happy that it worked out for us. That last season was immense and the boys have continued on strong.

You’d prefer us bent over pining like the Soy Boy Dufflecoaters. Just to justify your position.

At least mine is for our own success.

Really pathetic…..


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