List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[gringo2011]

I posted along these lines about Shiel in PM.

I agree. But I still think he improves us for a year or 2


This all needs to be judged in the light of the morning after the draft as far as I’m concerned.

Effectively downgrade their first for 12 or 13 and a second rounder

Gresham will be there for another 8 years. This looks like a short sighted acquisition, especially if you think we are years off a flag.

 

[gringo2011]

Sanders wont be there at 8, we will need to trade for 4

Sanders is meant to go between 8 and 12 range. McKercher is the one that's meant to go top 5. It's a pretty shit midfield draft.

 

[MightySaint]

Gresham will be there for another 8 years. This looks like a short sighted acquisition, especially if you think we are years off a flag.

How comfortable are you with Gresham for pick 13 and Shiel?

 

[Sully111]

Who's eyebrows would we be more comfortable with?

 

[Joffaboy]

Sanders is meant to go between 8 and 12 range. McKercher is the one that's meant to go top 5. It's a pretty s**t midfield draft.

Can you imagine 12 and 13 and some for 8 and we miss Sanders and get some half arsed half back flanker who ' can eventually run through the mids'?

Unless we have 4 we will miss out on Sanders.

 

[stavro#4]

Gresham will be there for another 8 years. This looks like a short sighted acquisition, especially if you think we are years off a flag.

Well it’s not.

It’s Gresham and a non first round pick for Shiel and a First round draft pick.

So it’s a short medium and long term acquisition

 

[stavro#4]

Sanders wont be there at 8, we will need to trade for 4

He will be there at 6.

Hopefully he is there at 8.

 

[gringo2011]

I posted along these lines about Shiel in PM.

I agree. But I still think he improves us for a year or 2


This all needs to be judged in the light of the morning after the draft as far as I’m concerned.

Effectively downgrade their first for 12 or 13 and a second rounder

So what do we give up? Gresham, a first and second RDP, our first gets a 4 place up-grade? And we pay Shiel a millionaires wage?

Jesus. I thought I was over getting through trade period and needing therapy.

 

[MightySaint]

Can you imagine 12 and 13 and some for 8 and we miss Sanders and get some half arsed half back flanker who ' can eventually run through the mids'?

Unless we have 4 we will miss out on Sanders.

We tried to trade up for Gibcus and had to settle for a half back flanker. Forgetting about Sanders for a second, would you do 12 and 13 for a chance at an elite mid? I reckon i would, but you'd want to be pretty damn confident.

 

[gringo2011]

How comfortable are you with Gresham for pick 13 and Shiel?

I'd rather keep Gresham.

 

[MightySaint]

I'd rather keep Gresham.

How comfortable are you with 13 for Gresham?

 

[stavro#4]

So what do we give up? Gresham, a first and second RDP, our first gets a 4 place up-grade? And we pay Shiel a millionaires wage?

Jesus. I thought I was over getting through trade period and needing therapy.

The Deal for Shiel appears to be:

Shiel and Pick 13

For

Gresham and let’s say 31

Pick 8 is speculation

 

[gringo2011]

We tried to trade up for Gibcus and had to settle for a half back flanker. Forgetting about Sanders for a second, would you do 12 and 13 for a chance at an elite mid? I reckon i would, but you'd want to be pretty damn confident.

Sanders isn't that elite IMO. Looks a nice player but not that special apart from scarcity factor. McKercher at 4 maybe but 2 firsts is a lot to give up when you are losing a good player to do it.

 

[Mr_R0b0t]

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Absolute garbage. They should go over to European soccer, club managers get sacked for losing 3 games in a row. This is a multi billion dollar business not a teddy bears picnic.

That statement is so amateurish!

 

[hangdog]

The Deal for Shiel appears to be:

Shiel and Pick 13

For

Gresham and let’s say 31

Pick 8 is speculation

Wait, I skipped ahead from page 290 to 297 and suddenly we're dealing for Shiel?!

 

[BrutThough]

The Shiel deal makes sense, but can't see the AFL letting that fly.

Reportedly, we tried similar with Crouch and Dunstan but the AFL shut it down so I'd be surprised if it eventuated this time.

 

[gringo2011]

Well it’s not.

It’s Gresham and a non first round pick for Shiel and a First round draft pick.

So it’s a short medium and long term acquisition

Why would Essendon do that when Gresham is FA? They pay us a player that they paid a fortune for and a FRDP for Gresham and pick 40?

So basically they get pick 40 and take Gresham that they'd get with just cash as a FA?

 

[Remboy]

Wait, I skipped ahead from page 290 to 297 and suddenly we're dealing for Shiel?!

Don’t tell me you skipped over the Heeney news?

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Sanders wont be there at 8, we will need to trade for 4

That article suggests Dogs are offering 10, 17 and a F1! We can’t match that (nor should we).

 

[kernelT]

It's significantly pleasing to be linked to Fremantle & Essendon for deals again.

BYO dick-tape-measures.

 

[bird_man]

Why would Essendon do that when Gresham is FA? They pay us a player that they paid a fortune for and a FRDP for Gresham and pick 40?

So basically they get pick 40 and take Gresham that they'd get with just cash as a FA?

Because if we have made it clear if we don't get good compensation for Gresham we match a force a trade.

Makes a lot of sense for the Bombers rather than giving up a good pick.

Shiel is worthless now. It's just money off the books.

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Wait, I just read Sanders has just been added to Norths NGA. What does that mean now? The academy rules confuse me, we were able to get Windhager and Owens because they fell bellow whatever pick it was, then last year we couldn't bid on Cam Mackenzie because of a change to the rules but this year Walter and Read can be matched by GC no matter where they are bid on.

 

[austinnn]

Absolutely. Some coal face muscle + draft assets

Well he's definitely got some face muscle, his whole face is a muscle. I'm not a fan but we've had worse on our list lately and he might have something to prove under Ross. Anyway he's just steak knives: The big draw is band 1 compo for Gresh.

 

[stavro#4]

Why would Essendon do that when Gresham is FA? They pay us a player that they paid a fortune for and a FRDP for Gresham and pick 40?

So basically they get pick 40 and take Gresham that they'd get with just cash as a FA?

I don’t know. But you’re assuming alot.

They might want rid of Shiel.

We have told them we want a first round compo.

They get another pick and rid of Shiels contract and Gresham.

We take on Shiel a player SOS and Gubby love and get pick 13

 

[bird_man]

Wait, I just read Sanders has just been added to Norths NGA. What does that mean now? The academy rules confuse me, we were able to get Windhager and Owens because they fell bellow whatever pick it was, then last year we couldn't bid on Cam Mackenzie because of a change to the rules but this year Walter and Read can be matched by GC no matter where they are bid on.

If he gets drafted early they cant match

That is unless thr AFL change the rules for him