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Fair enough. He used to be strong overhead but maybe hasn't been since his finger injury.

Underrated post. However I think Buckley is astute enough to make some tweaks to the gameplan so we don't come back ready to be picked apart next season. That was Malthouse's mistake in 2011 - blind faith in an unchanged gameplan that was eventually overcome. I think Goldsack is spare parts...

It should be treated differently from a normal shepherd. In a normal shepherd situation, like the give-and-go, the player who gives off the ball and then shepherds can't protect the receiver from someone coming in from a different direction, i.e. who isn't blocked out by him. In the man on the...

Apologies if this has been brought up before. What is the ruling around a player from the same team as the kicker shepherding the player standing the mark? This tactic being employed several times yesterday in the Haw V Coll game, by Hawthorn players and I've observed them doing it before...

Since we're not improving our win-loss position with each season, is our game analysis up to scratch? I'm talking more about structures, running patterns etc. I'm not advocating an independent review, BTW, just making a comparison with areas where our performance might need scrutiny. FWIW, I...

I'm pretty confident the fitness and conditioning staff go through every injury now and try to learn from it - same as the coaching panel do with game analysis. If we think it's a good idea to find "independent" advice regarding our injuries, is it also a good idea to bring in independent eyes...

He makes a few mistakes every game. His turnovers are due to the occasional lazy execution - not inherently poor skills. He'll iron those out with experience and will form part of a solid first choice back six for a long time to come. People are far less critical of Marley these days, but he...

Seriously? Can't believe this thread has been re-heated on the back of today's injuries. This is Davoren's fault? Plenty of other clubs with soft tissue injuries if you care to look here. And, as others have pointed out, Nathan Freeman still has hamstring problems at the Saints, Beams has...

Good call on Armitage and Cunnington. Freeman could be one of those types that takes time to develop his confidence. Hodge and Goddard were another two, admittedly thrown straight in at AFL level, but both took several seasons before they looked worthy of their high draft pick status.

Good post. I think Malthouse and Sheedy may have thought the long game is getting too hard on player's bodies, which may be fair enough. All the more reason for the AFL to re-consider interchange caps and sub rules, etc. If Gil is suggesting people are staying away because of the length of...

My first pies game was the same match in 1967. Richmond went on to win the flag that year but we got them that day by, I dunno, about 7 points. I was way too young to know any players. I remember we got there early enough to see most of the reserves game and thinking it was the main game and...

OK. Probably what's going on at the kennel then. Resume normal transmission guys (or at least put the Harvey hate on hold for a while)

Was seen at Whitten oval yesterday. Perhaps having a talk with former teammate Luke Beveridge? This is no idle gossip - my wife works there and spotted him.

We have line breakers in Marley, Seeds and Sinclair. H's body size will be missed but not his defensive or disposal capabilities. Brown will return and Reid may return to CHB but we're still short a good solid third tall; I don't consider Keeffe or Toovey to be adequate replacements for...

Hawks got pick 66 as compensation for Young. The pick is based on age, new contract and new contract benefits, and of course Hawthorn's ladder position pushes them down in the picking order. But $500K doesn't sound like the sort of deal that would be compensated by pick 66 does it?

Injuries have the effect of weakening the core structure. The replacements aren't as good as who they replace. It may start with a dropped mark, a missed tackle, a misdirected handball. It can end up spiralling downwards into indecision and further erosion of skills and fluency. A side with...

I think most of us would think that finishing 4th, 5th ... 8th is pointless if you haven't got something up your sleeve for the future

Josh Kennedy and Ben McGlynn say hello.

The first one, my recollection, was Leon being a mile away from Varcoe who seized on the opportunity when the ball came his way. Poor defence. The second I'll have to take your word for since i can't bring myself to watch the game again. I was at the game so not sure what I missed on TV.

Apart from being owned by Varcoe in Q1 of the grand final

What else have you got to go by, other that what they do after they leave? What you imagine they might have done if they stayed?

Dawes on track for AA in 2011? He had a handful of productive games at the start of the season and was already trending down before he got injured. His output since that injury has been miles away from AA. And injured a lot of that time as well, despite not being managed by Davoren...

What do the negative posters actually want that's realistic? Grand finals and premierships every year? Hawthorn of the 80's, North of the nineties, Brisbane of the early 2000's, Geelong of 2007-2011 - they're the templates - current day Hawthorn as well if they get there this year. The...

Another awesome list. I reckon Ted Potter played most of his career in 15 - only took number 3 when the club adopted (reverted to?) the Captain/Vice/Deputy scheme being numbered from 1 (circa 1971?). Therefore, I think I'd have him displacing Leigh Brown. Who to slot in at 3? Stan the Man.

Great effort! Would question: 8 - Des Tuddenham wore it with distinction for a large part of his career 17 - Never saw Thorold Merrett but he was TOC 24 - Tarks? Admittedly the only other 24 I can think of who might be close is Andrew Ireland. 43 - Would put Ricky Barham ahead Terry Keays at 60...

Thorold Merrett. I have to admit, I sourced this here

30 - Des Tuddenham (early), Peter Moore

Rene Kink was pretty awesome too

34 - Mick McGuane 43 - Ricky Barham (later wore 1)

Thanks for the link and :thumbsu: for getting the word "upbraiding" into a post