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Think you will find that was the current Hawthorn coach.

It can't be understated what a difference he has made to the team. There aren't many in the team that I fully trust when they get the ball but he is one of them. I think he could end up being our best player in a couple of years and is captaincy material. Just blown away by his development.

3 wells - was great all day but the first 10 minutes of the last quarter was the first time i've ever seen him just take control and make the others follow 2 swallow - works harder than anyone and was tough as nails. 1 thompson - he's back. was great to see him taking marks and running...

tonight was our season in a nutshell. worked hard, played well in patches but butchered it around goal and didn't make them pay. we had harding hit a hot patch after a slow start then do his hammy. we worked hard in some areas then gave fat boy stevens space and made him look like a...

i thought the only thing that let him down was support. if we had a few more that ran as hardm he'd be creating more for the others around him. i think he's a gem and will be setting up some of the others (if we can get some more quality onballers) for years to come

not happy with the hard running to support? yes he gave away at least 2 bad handballs but he was putting himself in pressure situations more than some of the other drover's dogs looking for cheap kicks out the back. Votes 3 hamish 2 drew 1 anthony

agreed. would love to see the duck go around with the same latitude he is given.

carlton owned the middle of the ground tonight but i would hope that simmo being in would put a stop to that. still need more midfield run though.

agreed. our preseason focus has been for tonight's game only, the season is lost. I can't see how we can recover from this devastating loss...

game suited carlton's desire to treat this as a mickey mouse touch football game. saw nothing from them to be scared of, still rely on judd and fev. look forward to playing them where there is tackling involved. ziebell is just pure class, love him already. wellsy was playing the way we have...

i think the carey one was 99 when the blues kicked the first 5 but we went on to blow them away. that bump was after carey had just taken a chest mark after a long lead and he obliterated rice who was a hard unit. one of my all time favourite moments from the 90's. pure power and strength...

will keep an eye out for these boys next year. pennant hills home ground is approx. 200m from my home.

no, he was terrible. soft and had no limited skills which isn't a good mix. couldn't kick over 40 metres. sheedy referring to him as a marshmallow was spot on the money. and i had this opinion well before his recent activities came to light. i grew up with the old man telling me how bad...

metro. don't know the scores though

True, not all, but most. Always loved his effort, now his output is matching his effort. To make his comments re. Friday night and the jumper so quickly after the game on national TV showed what a leader and clubman he is.

Dominated the game tonight. Has come a long way from 3 years ago when he was bagged by all.

it's funny because it's true.

the key will be whether the guy in the box thinks this as well.

funny funny stuff. g ablett won the game for the cats, not the umpires, but please don't make a goose of yourself by trying to say we had the better of the umpiring.

i'll do the same then... watched it on tv from sydney. was very very furstrating. every time we got close they would get a cheap goal to give them back a buffer. they had that extra touch of class that we couldn't find. our decision making lets us down and disposal was poor at times. it...

watched it on tv from sydney. was very very furstrating. every time we got close they would get a cheap goal to give them back a buffer. they had that extra touch of class that we couldn't find. our decision making lets us down and disposal was poor at times. it was clear though that we were...

forgot to ask, did you talk with jim mcmahon? would love to know what he is like in person? read his book many years ago and he seemed a very interesting guy.

steve, you're a man of great taste, a niner fan and a rooboy. can't recall if it was you or ed that was a canucks man? very jealous of you meeting the ex niners, in particular ronnie lott, one of my all time faves. by the way, i always enjoyed your sunday night show when i was living in...

i'm feeling the pain too. we went 10 seasons of not playing them in melbourne, i move to sydney last year and we play them twice in a row in melbourne and not at all in sydney!!!

i saw him in the first quarter and immediately thought " we have to have him" i'd use the first rounder on him in a heartbeat! looked the goods. also saw a left footer for murray who was promising but can't recall the name.

i've read some stupid posts in my time but you take the cake as the biggest tool on here. this and your post on wells on the main board have me wondering if you're enjoying sinking the boots in. grow up.

too bad you weren't up to giving yourselves the chance. tiger fans could probably say the same thing.

if you think your club plays entertaining football then more power to you, but a reality check would be beneficial. the bitterness of hawk fans over last week is quite funny. i'll gladly admit we're not in the same class as the cats or port but we're a notch or 2 above your lot.

as bad as we have been, thank christ for your pathetic mob. our finals record would be even worse if we didn't get to play your lot. been a lot longer since you had your last success than it has been for us so pull your head in son.

yes the umpire impacted the game early, but based on how the game has turned out so far, it would only have been a matter of time even if we weren't getting shafted. it's more about how we're playing than the umpires. no composure, no pressure being applied. we're letting geelong dictate...