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I'll hava a stab and say Ryder at 3 (maybe Kennedy) leaving Beau Dowler to slip to 6 (Kennedy won't last that long).

psd could be v interesting, especially if selwood, Mclaren, and gasper are available. Brissy wouldn't let 2 go would they? anyway, Gasper would be a good pick-up if (and I mean big if) he can stay fit. he is big unit with a bit of presence. Could solve out full-back problem? Joel Smith...

Fair call NorthBhoy. Let's move on and hopefully both clubs can make the most of it! I thought Thommo was treated Ok by our supporters when we played North this year, but there were loud boos for stick man (rawlings) when we played the pups! I reckon Jade will be a good pick-up, hopefully...

How many points did Port Adelaide flog you by in the elimination final again? and it was great to see so many North (i mean Kangaroo) supporters at the game!

...stuffed the kick and it dribbled through for a point. Bo, showed a little more. nothing to write home about but maybe did enough to get another game, looks quite big on the ground and one good thing was he didn't seem to ******** himself everytime he got tha ball. Not the worst 2 by any...

-Draft Xavier Ellis & Beau Dowler (picks 2 & 4) -Offload Jon Hay to anyone that will have him (maybe not the scum, cause Sheedy will probably turn him back into the player he once was). -Danny Jacobs (see Jon Hay) is an awkward size and is slow as wet week! except the scum are more than...

After y'days debacle thought I'd call for comments on the following (not trying to create controversy) just want people's thoughts: Jon Hay: The most uniterested player in the AFL! The deliberate out of bounds was laughable! sometimes didn't even watch the play! Nick Holland: Loved you...

I think the Hawks' Brainstrust are hoping that Harry Miller will be that type of player!

Jimmyboy, do you really think that by playing Bally or Brennan would have made a 3 goal difference???? wake up to yourself boy, Bally was best for Box Hill on the weekend I know but the jury is still out on Brennan, how can you justify saying it made a 3 goal difference? the boy is skinny...

Quote: Originally Posted by Nightwolf_69 I was sitting right next to it, and it wasnt good gesture at all. Get ya hand off it saints fans, jesus christ! He literally took him off his feet, the kid was jelly. Like i said, i didnt have a problem with the bump, but he shouldve just left him...

This is probably a stupid thread, but just wondering if anyone knew what those blue strappy things some of the players wore under the gurenseys agasinst the saints are? Tim Clarke and Sam Mitchell were a couple to wear them? what are they and what are they supposed to do? heart rate monitors...

Oldschool, you seem pretty sure that the Hawks have made some mistakes? the whole Hodge, Ball, Judd thing comes to mind. No one will know until these players actually play some games! remember not every top 10 draft pick is a star player take Kris Massie, Lance Piciaone etc. for example. I'm...

Just wondering if there are any players that are doing especially well at preseason training? Will there be a few surprise packets for the Hawks this year? not just draftees, but improvement in players that have been around for a while?

Not Bad. Not sure about both Barker & Holland across half forward though! I wouldn't mind being a defender running off the HBF on Johnny B! But I don't really know who else could play there. With Graham, Piciaone, Barlow leaving gives the likes of Brennan (he got a little taste last year)...

Good luck to Lance at the Skippy's. It's interesting how some players flourish under different coaches, he is very talented but has always lacked consistency. He was orignally taken (top 10) I think to go Adelaide about 7 years ago. I think the whole drink-driving and lying about it thing...

Does anyone know anything about the other rookies?? e.g. what type of player, posistion etc.?? Kirkby is a KPP isn't he?

Hello Fellow Hawk supporters! It's been a long time since I last made a post (hence the name!) and sort of jumped back on board around the time of the draft. I am just curious if anyone had any information on Harry Miller? He was the big talk of 2004 pre-season, but I'm sure at some stage...

What about Austin McCrabb?????? he played a handful of games for Geelong and Hawthorn late 80's and early 90's. He was never going to be any good with that name! Barry Young? Martin Leslie? Phil Narlke? only becasue of his helmet!

...add up. We have obviously mismanaged somewhere along the line. Cartlon and Essendon got flags out of cheating. I think that the whole system is **** anyway. Brisbane and Sydney get extra cap cash to use for relocation and higher living costs, what about trying to keep interstate players...

Brad Sewell I have heard from a very good source that Brad Sewell will be the one to be promoted to the senior list next year. did you see the VFL prelim final? John Turnball has said it already. watch out for next year. does anyone know how to change the usermane? as you can see it is a bit...

Jon Hay Hey Porthos you tool, Is that Fabian as your ugly nut???? **** off you southpaw loser. I reckon that Jonny Hay will be better than Silvagni?? All Ozzi 7 times, what a ****!!!!! he was named that even when he played half a year up forward,

...impact last year. He has probarbly put on another 3-4kg to his body since last year . Do you remember Shane Crawfords first & second year ???? If injury doesn't cut him down he will be awesome this year. PS. Is any other Hawk fan pissed off that the ****ing kangaroos got Johnnny...

...I hope so, but do you really thick so???? What happens if big Jonny Hay or stick man Rawlings goes down??? No more Croad to back up?? he was **** in this role last year anway!!!!!!! Watch for big Robert Campbell this year. I reckon he is the best 19 year old ruckman going round...

...has gone through all you so called Hawthorn supporters who wanted to keep him, are slagging him off as if he walked out on the club ?? get some f*^@+!g brains. only 2.5 weeks ago he went within 5cm of putting us into a Grand Final. I say good luck to him and I hope he ends up playing good...

I think your right GOALden Hawk, 5-6- kids and Johnny Baird as a back-up tall. Sammy Mitchell has earned a crack at the big time. I would be interested on people's thoughts on Chance Bateman, the poor fella's had a hard year I know but do you think he will make it ?? What about Ries ...

I really hope the kid goes well. But there's not much pressure on him is there ????? Apparently he is a dead cert to go Numero Uno. JubJub, that was quite humourous :)

...saying that Cameron Schwab is a genius ??? I reckon freo have done pretty well out of player trading, but people are claiming that he is the f*#@+!g messiah. He left Richmond with no success and when @ Melbourne breached their salary cap and just walked away. seems strange that he f*%4@s...

So, the latest trade news for Hawthorn is Croad + McPharlin for picks 1 + 4. sound reasonable. My theroy is that the Hawks will let these 2 "promising" kids leave. As much as I like Trent @ Hawthorn and I think that big Lukey is the next Jonny Hay, it may be OK depending on injuries next...

hawks I'm not sure that Nick Holland is signed up yet???