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Unless you're a NN, Gawn or Grundy, you're really just a dinosaur making up the numbers. I don't know why some clubs don't just play the extra midfielder around the ball and forfeit the ruck.

Regardless of their form, i'm not sure why anyone has an issue. NN is now back and it's just a debate over who is 2nd ruck. NN is best in bursts and what a urst player he is - we can now look forward to a massive surge in CBD dominance. Expect a roller coaster second half to the season now that...

He was fantastic last year. WAs taking regular grabs in the F50 and converting for goals. Now that has dried up, he is being questioned. Have to put trust in the match committee as to whether he can regain the forward 50 pressure.

You are aware that Lycett got monstered in most of his games the past season? I believe he still got comprehensively beaten in the ruck in the finals, yet the 2 on 1 strategy worked. Sinclair was contracted. He wanted to stay and WCE made the same statement given this trade period (in relation...

Sinclair has always been better than Lycett. He was when he was traded and remains a better ruck. Port Adelaide don't know what they're getting.

Vardy coming good has diluted a lot of the signficaince of the trade, but this rarely happens. Big win for WCE here. That trade was heavily in Sydney's favour at the time.

McGovern was a rookie, what's your point? Where someone was taken in the draft means very little once they've played a season of football.

I'm sure most will say that the ends has justified the means, but WCE got bent over badly in that trade. It would be similar to Brander going for Kelly

Can someone explain to me how WCE have all these developing talls, yet Fremantle seems to have none? Fremantle have had better draft picks than WCE for quite a while.

I don't see why Brander should even be mentioned. He re-signed with WCE indicating he wanted to stay in WA. Geelong have the retention issue. Maybe Geelong remember WCE buckling at the knees with the Callum Sinclair / Jetta trade. I still don't understand why Sinclair was included in that trade.

The sooner Geelong accept a second round pick, the better for all concerned.

If Nic is fit, he is in the team every day of the week. Have you already forgotten the '10 game' win stream. That was mostly Nic's doing. Now that Nic has shown that he can go down at any stage, we just need to play him at every opportunity and get as many games out of him as possible. No more...

What about Wellingham. The pick used to get Grundy. What a shocking trade that was.

Geelong think they're dealing with Brisbane or St Kilda who just throw draft picks away like they're candy.

Yes, they say that every year. The next super draft coming up. Nobody really knows. That guy they call the 'draft guru' seems to get it wrong every year.

Geelong got those players to agree using the old 'go home factor' - regardless of the mechanism, they did not pay fair value. Can even throw SCott Selwood into the mix. This kelly situation will now go against them. WCE and Freo should be bargaining hard, and rightly so. Geelong won't want to...

Geelong have been bending over clubs for quite a while when it comes to trades. Now it's geelong's turn to take it.. and they ain't liking it. What goes around, comes around I guess.

WCE needs to be brave to make the GF and win. The ruck situation is horrendous and is being compounded by having two of them out there. It's disgraceful that Simpson didn't trial a number of styles prior to the finals. Lycett and Vardy may be able to dominate a Brisbane or Fremantle, but it's...

His father's health wasn't a factor earlier on in the season. Can you explain the reluctance to sign then? There is no point even discussing this anymore. It's a foregone conclusion. WCE should match any rival offer and force a trade. Gaff belting a bloke off the football, should eradicate any...

So we should blindly accept the nonsense that Gaff is talking about? If he comes out the day after WCE exit and says he wants to go to North, do we then accept that he made his mind up months ago?

Nice - miss out a few of Melbourne mids to make it seem comparable... How can you just dismiss Lycett and Gawn as if it's completely part of the midfield discussion. Lycett was disgusting.

How many times do we go through this dance every year. Gaff is gone. He has not signed as he is out the door. Expect to hear it the day after WCE season finishes. 'still making up my mind', yeah right....

It's much better to watch football on the free-to air channel during the breaks and once it's finished. Nothing worse that going into that Melbourne 'studio'.

This is just not true. Their midfield is miles ahead. When you have a sub-par midfield compounded by LeCras and Lycett, it makes it much harder. - LeCras only lasted half a season and has been poor the last month. I know that he wants to go on as it's a high paying job, but just retire LeCras...

They do that every week. A reputation for diving rarely sticks. The 'rancey dive' won'go into next year and nobody remembers the schofield incident anymore.

I don't understand why the commentary talks as if players are above taking dives. They players will do anything to milk a free. They always have done. They're only 'hard'when there is no chance of a free kick.

Nobody is getting suspended lately. They have the big bodied players and obviously know they're unlikely to get rubbed out.

Oh come, Lycett has had his ass spanked against every ruckman he has gone up against. Prepare for another domination. Lycett is embarrassing himself out there.

Then AhChee should be happy to be de-listed and recruited back as a rookie. He is so far off it at the moment. The first year players are miles ahead.

Out: LeCras We can't let this spud continue. He is well and truly cooked. How many useless games can this spud put up before he is dropped?