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its going to be fun watching Frost become the new whipping boy if he joins. When he gets the ball late in games when its close, it is like watching a benny hill skit, he has absolutely no composure whatsoever. There are reasons why Melbourne lost so many close games this year and Frost is at the...

Brisbane traded their first rounder next year as part of deal to get pick 19, so they have really given 2 top 10 picks for Neale assuming Brisbane dont make the 8 next year

for those thinking we have given up too much for Wingard. Brisbane are about to give up significantly more for Lachie Neale. Effectively pick 6, around pick 10 next year plus future 2nd and 3rd's. Is he better than Wingard?

is there something fishy about this deal? Cochrane just said they got 2 future 2nd round picks for omera which is also what they put in their initial tweet. Have we agreed under the table to give them our future 2nd rounder next year in the trade period then for a bag of chips?

poppy will be 29 soon lyons is much younger, both probably worth a similar range 30-40ish

poppy to Adelaide?

A trade for omeara has to get done even if we end up losing another player. Hawks cant take the risk in the Draft. "if' we then didnt get Omeara in the draft we have a $1.5mill hole in the salary cap and you have to pay 95%- so around $550-$600k less. Thats $1 mill lost unless they change a...

If Lewis was a free agent this year we would have received nothing because Vickery has come in and if we waited til next year l suspect we would have received nothing also- as the only thing that makes this logcal trading is if the club already know they have a free agent agreed in priniple to...

this deal is better than you think for hawks if Jarman is nominating us under father son. Means going from 36 to 68 may not cost us anything if Jarman is worth pick 30-60 as suggested. If he went for pick 30, for example, we would have had to use 36- now we can use 57 for the same result with...

Is it just me , at the ground he looked and moved exactly like Isaac Smith, just a fraction bigger. gliding loping style. Couldn't tell the two apart for a lot of the game

Interesting about Andrew Gaff whispered to want to come back to Vic. I suspect Clarko rates him extremely highly, similar to his love for Shaun Burgoyne when he was at Port, as he has been tagging him nearly every game with Shiels since he was 19 , something he rarely does with other players

We were always getting Melbourne and Richmond as the double up games as the AFL stated months ago that the top team would play the 7th and 13th placed teams on the ladder twice along with 3 of the top 6 which was easy to pick as well- WCE because they were in the GF, Sydney ditto previous year...

So if we get Carlisle we get back a pick in the 40's as well from Essendon which makes the Anderson trade deal better. What if we miss on Carlisle? Have Hawthorn done a handshake agreement with North to get something back next week in that scenario?

the fitness evaluations were done every week throughout the year not after the GF. I think we are all inflating Lakes performances this year- his result in the B&F tells us he wasn't that good and he got subbed a few times. His intercept marking hid his defensive flaws this year- he actually...

it has to be 3 from the top 6 and the 7th placed and 13th placed team where it fits- that's the formula they used this year so likely to be Eagles, Sydney, North, Richmond and Melbourne

l don't know if l am missing an in joke or not but why are posters saying Shoey got votes in the coaches award? He didn't- Luke Shoey got the 2 votes

was that the smallest -both height and physically strong team Hawthorn have fielded in years yesterday? Its just structurally all wrong due to injuries and suspensions I think Hale being out is affecting us more than l would have ever thought- the whole forward line but particularly Roughie and...

if Cyril is fit and we make the grand final against the swans he is a must to start as Nick Smith will go to Cyril and may beat him but it will free up Breust to dominate, if cyril doesnt play then breust will be in for a very tough time and our forward line will be a lot less potent. Simpkins...

Yes duryea does hold it too long, we all think its great that Litherland takes the game on, runs 10 metres and then can kick it flat 55-60 metres but how often this year has that ended in us retaining possession? I think the figure is low and the opposition get the ball back or at best for us...

this is why Shoenmakers, Suckling and Duryea are playing and guys like Litherland and Cheney arnt, we should all know by now Hawthorn rate kicking efficiency and decision making in kicking ahead of everything else, its also why langford is still line ball to retain his spot and why Spanger is...

yes l think shoey played a sacrificial game as clarkson said after the game a couple of forwards were decoys. He played between the 50 arcs all day- rarely was even in the forward 50 and rarely was in the contests- when he was he did ok- halved most of them, didnt get outmarked either, does look...

funny how perception and wishful thinking blinds reality. As a few have mentioned Spanger was an absolute liability in the first half- he started on Tex , spent time on pods and then jenkins and they all took mark after mark on him. Improved in the second half when he pushed more up the field...

forget about the overall impression over the years and look at how he has performed against hawthorn to know whether clarkson would be interested or not. From my memory he has performed quite well against us and has got a lot of contested ball as well, particularly the last 2 times we have...

normally rolls out one liners like we have a lot of respect for how they (opposition ) goes about it and doesnt really offer any insight Today talked about how shocked Hawthorn were that Stkilda were prepared to trade mcEvoy and said they couldnt sign the paperwork fast enough. But more...

Clarko spoke really well on the radio- better than l think l have ever heard him, didnt just roll out the cliches. Even though it pains me to say it l think we will be playing essendon again this year in the last 3 weeks of the season- they are genuine top 4 chances. I know they seem to start...

Is Burgoyne bigger and stronger this year? just busts through tackles and great one on one in defence. He can easliy play key position if needed even though he is only 6 foot- matched Brown for strength one on one. Bit worried about Hodge that he has lost penetration on his kicks or was it...

How's this as an idea that may be in the process of getting the player concerned to agree as we speak- St Kilda make Dal Santo a free agent, Hawthorn sign him on a big money contract for 2 years which means St Kilda will likely get an end of first round compo, around pick 22. Hawthorn were...

listening to the saints recruiter- are they trying to do a deal with us for the compo pick for Leigh Montagna? What to people think

based on the MRP findings over the last month - Fletcher, Hartlett, Jpod and Ryder this will be graded as negligent not reckless, bookmark it- he didnt jump in the air when contact was made and didnt hit melcheski with an errant elbow or arm it was all a tucked in shoulder, the only question is...

does anyone know what the stats show as to where we are taking the shots this year?- l think we have gone a lot more through the corridor in the 50 this year compared to the last two years when we deliberately went to one pocket as a defensive tactic to limit the rebound damage. This would...