Steady. He hardly took one for the team as he is a RFA. He's not playing for food stamps and has massively underperformed.
Top 10 means he didn't leave that much cash on the table but he has left a lot of talent & potential on the table rotting away
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Steady. He hardly took one for the team as he is a RFA. He's not playing for food stamps and has massively underperformed.
Top 10 means he didn't leave that much cash on the table but he has left a lot of talent & potential on the table rotting away
Im sure the same people being critical of the club for trying to find a trade for him last year would be the same people that would lose their shit if he walked as a free agent and we never tried to trade him the previous year.
And wtf has he done, really struggling to cover the ground and make the grade
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Look who he's playing for
That's a cop out, he gas been majorly disappointing
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Not even 1 of their top draft picks have been good so I think it's the club. The talent is there though
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2nd year .....TSR need to cut the kid some slack
They don't all develop to AFL day 1
Everyone drooled over Toupas as a prospect ......don't think we from here can think that he won't reach his potential ...i never like players 2nd years performances, more often not good
Okay firstly....
1. People saying to let him go to FA, get a comp pick and then use his money to attract other FA's obviously dont understand how the system works. If we let Mackay go but bring in Gibbs for example, then we get no compensation pick. Zilch, zero, nothing.
2. Let one of our only speedy outside midfielders go and replace him with who exactly? Rory Atkins? Yoleman as a winger? Nooooo thankyou.
3. Say we trade him, get a 2nd rounder, quite possibly be stuck with a very early 3rd rounder depending on the market. The chances of a player selected here being better than Mackay and having an impact immediately/soon is very low. Yes, we have picked Sloane and Grigg etc in this 40+ boundary before, but we cant keep relying on these picks to produce for us.
4. He is in arguably career best form and we want to throw him for some crumbs now? After all this time? Not to mention the fact that he has lifted his game and improved massively in a terrible midfield set up (so far). His running bounces are up from an average of 0.9 to 3, showing that he's getting on the outside and providing run. I50 numbers are also well up, while averaging a career high 20.3 disposals. He's cracking in and doing the hard stuff as well, despite his very slight frame, and sometimes putting some of our so called "inside" midfielders to shame with his tackling and repeat efforts. Also has the 2nd best ball retention rate in the AFL, but ill let you guys dig through the numbers....
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...own-race-in-2014/story-fnia3xzy-1226902654556
What I'm mainly trying to put forward is that finally this guys ability curve has started to trend upwards rather than continue to plateau. He's the type of player that will improve further if he had a functioning midfield outfit. I think the fact that he's shown this improvement, given the way we are travelling atm is a great achievement. If our f***ing midfield lifts their game as a collective, then he's only going to get better and reap the rewards.
Imagine if we traded Douglas at the end of 2012.... Mackay is 25 coming on 26 and about to hit his prime. He's getting better week by week and has been one of our most consistent midfielders so far. It's not as if he is 30 and sitting in a similar boat to Brent Reilly, who WILL NOT improve and continues to show nothing. So what if hes on 400k or whatever it is, its not outrageous and someone with his skill set and athletic ability is very hard to come by. He rejected a trade and chose to stay here, work his arse off and prove his worth. He's done exactly that so far, but yeah lets trade him. We OHH so badly need the cap space right now......
1. People saying to let him go to FA, get a comp pick and then use his money to attract other FA's obviously dont understand how the system works. If we let Mackay go but bring in Gibbs for example, then we get no compensation pick. Zilch, zero, nothing.
2. Let one of our only speedy outside midfielders go and replace him with who exactly? Rory Atkins? Yoleman as a winger? Nooooo thankyou.
3. Say we trade him, get a 2nd rounder, quite possibly be stuck with a very early 3rd rounder depending on the market. The chances of a player selected here being better than Mackay and having an impact immediately/soon is very low. Yes, we have picked Sloane and Grigg etc in this 40+ boundary before, but we cant keep relying on these picks to produce for us.
4. He is in arguably career best form and we want to throw him for some crumbs now? After all this time? Not to mention the fact that he has lifted his game and improved massively in a terrible midfield set up (so far). His running bounces are up from an average of 0.9 to 3, showing that he's getting on the outside and providing run. I50 numbers are also well up, while averaging a career high 20.3 disposals. He's cracking in and doing the hard stuff as well, despite his very slight frame, and sometimes putting some of our so called "inside" midfielders to shame with his tackling and repeat efforts. Also has the 2nd best ball retention rate in the AFL, but ill let you guys dig through the numbers....
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...own-race-in-2014/story-fnia3xzy-1226902654556
What I'm mainly trying to put forward is that finally this guys ability curve has started to trend upwards rather than continue to plateau. He's the type of player that will improve further if he had a functioning midfield outfit. I think the fact that he's shown this improvement, given the way we are travelling atm is a great achievement. If our f***ing midfield lifts their game as a collective, then he's only going to get better and reap the rewards.
Imagine if we traded Douglas at the end of 2012.... Mackay is 25 coming on 26 and about to hit his prime. He's getting better week by week and has been one of our most consistent midfielders so far. It's not as if he is 30 and sitting in a similar boat to Brent Reilly, who WILL NOT improve and continues to show nothing. So what if hes on 400k or whatever it is, its not outrageous and someone with his skill set and athletic ability is very hard to come by. He rejected a trade and chose to stay here, work his arse off and prove his worth. He's done exactly that so far, but yeah lets trade him. We OHH so badly need the cap space right now......
Roos is trying to develop him into a long term, gun player. Not throw him to the wolves because the fans want to see their youngsters to placate them when everything else is shit.
He will come good - would love to get him back here. Exactly what we need.
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I believe the point is we are better off having both as plenty of deadwood to clear out at the end of the year.
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Sure, but that wasn't what I was saying in my quote.
Surely we have 10+ other players worth cutting before Mackay...
Mackay's new contract will likely see him drop out of top-10 earners at AFC.
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As you all know I've been extremely critical of David Mackay, especially in the last few seasons.
Tonight he showed the quality that is hiding within. Elite disposal, especially by foot (95% DE!), with good run and carry. Contributed around the stoppages with a couple of clearances. Tackled well and applied pressure. No kicking long to the contest and no horrible clangers.
I literally thought he was incapable of such a performance given his past finals. But he stood up to be one of our best tonight. Kudos Mackay!
Tonight he showed the quality that is hiding within. Elite disposal, especially by foot (95% DE!), with good run and carry. Contributed around the stoppages with a couple of clearances. Tackled well and applied pressure. No kicking long to the contest and no horrible clangers.
I literally thought he was incapable of such a performance given his past finals. But he stood up to be one of our best tonight. Kudos Mackay!
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If Mackay can back up tonight's game next week, this thread will blow apart full of admiration for him. I will too be singing his praises. With that said, great game tonight.
North are hardly IMO a top 8 team, will not play finals in 2017.
North are hardly IMO a top 8 team, will not play finals in 2017.
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I gave him a few roasts on BF this week but he played very well. His kicking and composure was excellent. Well done to him and the selectors.
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I'd drop him, he won't play that well again.
Very very good performance.
Very very good performance.
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Tonight.
400kay = 600kay
400kay = 600kay
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