Completely agree with this, Casboult is not the answer to our fix. He simply isn't good enough, and at the moment, none of our forwards are.
Our lack of forward power is by far our biggest deficiency right now.
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Completely agree with this, Casboult is not the answer to our fix. He simply isn't good enough, and at the moment, none of our forwards are.
Our lack of forward power is by far our biggest deficiency right now.
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Lack of forward power is equal to our lack of midfield power. I think our forwards would do alright if we had a midfield that could sustain attacking play for 4 quarters hence run hard enough for long enough to be dangerous and get the ball in their quicker and more directly and more often. Our forward line is starved of opportunity and quick direct entry a lot of the time.
Say we had three gun mids walk into the side, you see Murphy playing more as a small forward and perhaps even Gibbs and Judd playing forward more and you see the ball in the forward line more and going in with better quality. Walker/Thomas perhaps more forward as well baring injuries. I think we'd kick goals in that situation. But yes I do agree that our tall forwards are a bit underwhelming but with our current midfield structure and quality it's tough for our forwards.
Say we had three gun mids walk into the side, you see Murphy playing more as a small forward and perhaps even Gibbs and Judd playing forward more and you see the ball in the forward line more and going in with better quality. Walker/Thomas perhaps more forward as well baring injuries. I think we'd kick goals in that situation. But yes I do agree that our tall forwards are a bit underwhelming but with our current midfield structure and quality it's tough for our forwards.
They all fill the void for that age bracket of player. Thier quality or whether they all end up making it isn't relevant, we had a void to fill that we needed for future security. McKay spoke of it during the last trade period, we were very specific on how we went about our trading. It makes me wonder if they are satisfied with the depth and will now go after draft picks and try and snare some top quality footballers now. I'd be happy to see us go after first/second round draft picks even though I know it's going to cost us decent players and weaken us for the immediate future. Either that or we go hard in the free agency period with a massive war chest (providing Judd plays on) on and we try and become a solid finals side.
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Is 3 picks inside the top 20 out of the question?
St Kilda I think did it 2 years in a row. If we finish bottom 4 and are prepared to trade we could achieve this.
This would be the best way to rebuild. Need to make this happen!
St Kilda I think did it 2 years in a row. If we finish bottom 4 and are prepared to trade we could achieve this.
This would be the best way to rebuild. Need to make this happen!
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What really bugs me is that we are constantly seeking players from other clubs in the trade. Most of the time we are forced to give up our first round draft picks.
Just going to use what I think our possible top 4 team is to create a "game plan" for our rebuild towards a premiership.
B: Simpson Jamison Jaksch
HB: Yarran Henderson Gibbs
C: Thomas Judd Wingman
HF: Walker CHF Murphy
F: Menzel FF FR
OB: Kreuzer, Rover, Ruck Rover
IC: Docherty Everitt (Curnow or Carrazzo)
SUB: ???
Lets assume players retire at 33, obviously some will go earlier and some later. But as a guide it's good to see if we can do it.
2015 - This year we need a FF, CHF, Wing, 2-3 gun onballers and to a lesser extent a forward ruck.
2016 - Same needs providing no retirements and no young ones step up.
2017 - Judd, Carrazzo retire
Curnow is cover for Carrazzo. But we need a top level mid to replace Judd.
3-4 gun mids, at least 1 tall forward, wing, forward ruck.
2018 - Simpson Retires
Buckley might replace him.
need 3-4 gun mids. 2 gun wingmen or 1 and 1 gun back. two tall forwards & maybe a forward ruck.
2019 - possibly no retirements
2018 needs remain the same.
2020 - Walker, Jamison
Going to need a quick medium sized utility and a fullback along with our other requirements. Hopefully drafted something. Fingers crossed on Giles and Jaksch hopefully can hold the big boys.
2021 - Murphy, Thomas, Rowe, Wood, Warnock
It's getting tough now, replacing Thomas and Murphy along with our needs, most of which should have changed of been filled by now.
2022 - Henderson, White
White not a big worry, It's getting way to far in the future to see where we are at.
2023 - Ellard, Touhy, Curnow, Everitt, Kreuzer, Gibbs
Hopefully we've drafted our arse off and won a flag by now.
It would be interesting to know how long it will take to pick up 2 or 3 A grade mids, 1 or 2 A grade forwards and an A grade outside runner. These players need to develop which is the tricky part. Free agency may help at some stage. Kids wanting to come home is something we need to be onto. Getting extra draft picks is important as well. As much as you hate to think it, finishing low on the ladder may be important.
We need to draft at least 5 or 6 A Grade footballers in the next 2 or 3 seasons and hope to have a crack at it in about 2020. It sounds like a lot and it's something we've never got close to doing but others have done it before. Hawks drafted 6 A graders in 3 years and plenty of good players amongst them. Then 5 in 2 years.
If we can get our older stars to play good footy until they are around 33 and draft like all these gun sides have done then we can turn this list around and even challenge for the flag in the next 5 or so years. The only things is Rogers, while better than hughes, I don't think he's drafted to the level required for us to do so, so we need to get very busy.
It would be great to take a gun forward or two in the next draft. It would be great if Foster and Cripps turn out to be guns. Would be great if we get Silvagni cheap and he turns out to be a gun as well as picking up 3 guns in this draft. That's the level we need to be at to lift number 17.
We know what we need, the quality we need and the time frame roughly. We can do it if we are good enough.
B: Simpson Jamison Jaksch
HB: Yarran Henderson Gibbs
C: Thomas Judd Wingman
HF: Walker CHF Murphy
F: Menzel FF FR
OB: Kreuzer, Rover, Ruck Rover
IC: Docherty Everitt (Curnow or Carrazzo)
SUB: ???
Lets assume players retire at 33, obviously some will go earlier and some later. But as a guide it's good to see if we can do it.
2015 - This year we need a FF, CHF, Wing, 2-3 gun onballers and to a lesser extent a forward ruck.
2016 - Same needs providing no retirements and no young ones step up.
2017 - Judd, Carrazzo retire
Curnow is cover for Carrazzo. But we need a top level mid to replace Judd.
3-4 gun mids, at least 1 tall forward, wing, forward ruck.
2018 - Simpson Retires
Buckley might replace him.
need 3-4 gun mids. 2 gun wingmen or 1 and 1 gun back. two tall forwards & maybe a forward ruck.
2019 - possibly no retirements
2018 needs remain the same.
2020 - Walker, Jamison
Going to need a quick medium sized utility and a fullback along with our other requirements. Hopefully drafted something. Fingers crossed on Giles and Jaksch hopefully can hold the big boys.
2021 - Murphy, Thomas, Rowe, Wood, Warnock
It's getting tough now, replacing Thomas and Murphy along with our needs, most of which should have changed of been filled by now.
2022 - Henderson, White
White not a big worry, It's getting way to far in the future to see where we are at.
2023 - Ellard, Touhy, Curnow, Everitt, Kreuzer, Gibbs
Hopefully we've drafted our arse off and won a flag by now.
It would be interesting to know how long it will take to pick up 2 or 3 A grade mids, 1 or 2 A grade forwards and an A grade outside runner. These players need to develop which is the tricky part. Free agency may help at some stage. Kids wanting to come home is something we need to be onto. Getting extra draft picks is important as well. As much as you hate to think it, finishing low on the ladder may be important.
We need to draft at least 5 or 6 A Grade footballers in the next 2 or 3 seasons and hope to have a crack at it in about 2020. It sounds like a lot and it's something we've never got close to doing but others have done it before. Hawks drafted 6 A graders in 3 years and plenty of good players amongst them. Then 5 in 2 years.
If we can get our older stars to play good footy until they are around 33 and draft like all these gun sides have done then we can turn this list around and even challenge for the flag in the next 5 or so years. The only things is Rogers, while better than hughes, I don't think he's drafted to the level required for us to do so, so we need to get very busy.
It would be great to take a gun forward or two in the next draft. It would be great if Foster and Cripps turn out to be guns. Would be great if we get Silvagni cheap and he turns out to be a gun as well as picking up 3 guns in this draft. That's the level we need to be at to lift number 17.
We know what we need, the quality we need and the time frame roughly. We can do it if we are good enough.
SOS will be a drafting powerhouse. Started 17 years ago when he started having boys! Ah seriously if we're good enough then there's plenty of hope around the corner. But we're probably going to be ordinary for a couple of years.
The feeling coming through from most supporters is that they understand it will take a few years .
The past can't be changed now but it's time to do it right .
If the supporters see a fair dinkum plan and strategies in place , they'll back them and take a few years pain in order to once again be a serious club .
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Gb, trying to follow this. Remind me, how many a-grade mids do we need to draft before Oscar Judd retires?
I really did enjoy the post, though.
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Only way this may happen is if we lose Kruezar to free agency, if we finish bottom 4 we would get a top 5 pick for Matty similar to Frawley. I dont think anyone at Melbourne is now wishing they kept Frawley instead of getting Brayshaw.
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If we received a top 5 pick for Kreuzer it would be the biggest indication yet that the FA system is flawed and it would surely bring an end to Free Agency as we know it in the AFL.
Not only that - the person responsible for luring him via Free Agency should be sacked on the spot as he's not worth anything near the contract that would be required to generate that sort of compensation.
Bottom 4 this year would be a hard pill to swallow but if we were guaranteed to receive a top 5 pick for Matthew as a result - I'd be happy enough to see us endure that poor a season and I'd pilot a rickshaw with him my passenger to any club silly enough to throw that big a contract at him.
I love Kreuzer - he's arguably our most important player and is the heart and soul of the playing group - but if that opportunity presented itself every party involved would be mad to prevent a parting of the ways. You often hear about not wanting to let a player go unless an offer came that was just too good to refuse - a top 5 pick is a long, long way past that point.
It would be so sad to see Matty playing for another club, but you just couldn't say no to that kind of opportunity. No matter how much I love big Kreuz.
Not only that - the person responsible for luring him via Free Agency should be sacked on the spot as he's not worth anything near the contract that would be required to generate that sort of compensation.
Bottom 4 this year would be a hard pill to swallow but if we were guaranteed to receive a top 5 pick for Matthew as a result - I'd be happy enough to see us endure that poor a season and I'd pilot a rickshaw with him my passenger to any club silly enough to throw that big a contract at him.
I love Kreuzer - he's arguably our most important player and is the heart and soul of the playing group - but if that opportunity presented itself every party involved would be mad to prevent a parting of the ways. You often hear about not wanting to let a player go unless an offer came that was just too good to refuse - a top 5 pick is a long, long way past that point.
It would be so sad to see Matty playing for another club, but you just couldn't say no to that kind of opportunity. No matter how much I love big Kreuz.
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I dont think Frawley is on that much coin at Hawthorn so if you compare them I reckon its a similar situation, he would need to finish the year off strongly and have a team on the up who is desperate for a ruck.., Sydney, Gold Coast and GWS come to mind, if they offer him a 5 year deal on $4-500k I would think it would ensure we get first round compo for him.
Melbourne only got a first round comp so the AFL could indirectly give them a priority pick.
Yep.
Would not be surprised if the afl changed the compo system so we got nothing more than a second rnd just because it's us!
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Just like they'll change the father/son rule to coincide with SOSOS etc
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Ok so I think the club needs to reassess where we are at.
Do we actually think we can win a flag with this current group of players?
I honestly believe we can't and it hurts to say that but I really believe it.
We lack midfield depth, a Big Demanding Key Forward or 2 and we seem miles behind Hawthorn who are the benchmark of the competition.
So I think the club needs to stop with these band aid measurements and commence a full blown rebuild come seasons end.
To do this we need as many high end draft picks, something we are not used to having as we usually give ours away.
The only way to acquire more picks is to trade players with currency, after looking at the list these are the players I believe have currency and could net us decent picks.
Walker
Murphy
Gibbs
Kruezer
Yarran
Henderson
I'm not suggesting we trade all of these players but when I look at the list everybody else is either:
Too Old to trade: Judd, Simpson, Carrazzo, Jamieson
The Future of the Club: Menzel, Cripps, Jaksch, Docherty
Or has No trade currency: Basically everybody else (not trying to be mean but I can't see us getting top picks for those in this group)
I know people might Poo Poo this idea but if we want sustained success this is the best way to do it.
Do we actually think we can win a flag with this current group of players?
I honestly believe we can't and it hurts to say that but I really believe it.
We lack midfield depth, a Big Demanding Key Forward or 2 and we seem miles behind Hawthorn who are the benchmark of the competition.
So I think the club needs to stop with these band aid measurements and commence a full blown rebuild come seasons end.
To do this we need as many high end draft picks, something we are not used to having as we usually give ours away.
The only way to acquire more picks is to trade players with currency, after looking at the list these are the players I believe have currency and could net us decent picks.
Walker
Murphy
Gibbs
Kruezer
Yarran
Henderson
I'm not suggesting we trade all of these players but when I look at the list everybody else is either:
Too Old to trade: Judd, Simpson, Carrazzo, Jamieson
The Future of the Club: Menzel, Cripps, Jaksch, Docherty
Or has No trade currency: Basically everybody else (not trying to be mean but I can't see us getting top picks for those in this group)
I know people might Poo Poo this idea but if we want sustained success this is the best way to do it.
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Let me try and understand this premise... we trade away the guys that are keeping people interested in Carlton for either some high draft picks or a big key forward who is young and might take around 3-5 years to come on properly...
Yeah... lets do that... and I will do my bit to help out the club by not renewing my membership next year because trading those guys would be the SECOND DUMBEST ****ing idea ever put forward at the club... right after the one that Big Jack made to keep paying guys under the table after we got nicked in 2001 for salary cap infringements. And that was the bright idea that has helped put us in this state right now.
Yeah... lets do that... and I will do my bit to help out the club by not renewing my membership next year because trading those guys would be the SECOND DUMBEST ****ing idea ever put forward at the club... right after the one that Big Jack made to keep paying guys under the table after we got nicked in 2001 for salary cap infringements. And that was the bright idea that has helped put us in this state right now.
- Dec 8, 2007
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There is a difference between rebuilding and what you have suggested which is nuking the entire playing stocks to levels even Melbourne didn't delve to.
Also it reads as the closest thing to deliberate and premeditated tanking.
No. The last two years of recruiting is the beginning of the rebuild. It will continue end of this season and we will be better for the experience we put into players now.
Also it reads as the closest thing to deliberate and premeditated tanking.
No. The last two years of recruiting is the beginning of the rebuild. It will continue end of this season and we will be better for the experience we put into players now.
'ang on. Am I reading this correctly?
Are you suggesting that we trade our entire leadership group?
Are you suggesting that we trade our entire leadership group?
- Dec 8, 2007
- 4,526
- 8,347
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Chicago Bulls
Oh but haven't you heard Mebby? It was decided this week by a group of posters we have no leaders.
Turning into the Richmond the demand for eating our own lately.
Turning into the Richmond the demand for eating our own lately.
To be fair, the leaders didn't exactly stand up and lead on Thursday night.
However, trading them and throwing Yarran in for good measure is taking bottoming out to a whole new level...a level unexplored even by Melbourne and St Kilda.
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